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At long last the police are cracking down on hard marches

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mids2019 · 13/07/2025 05:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

I think it's great that the police are starting to take supporting terrorists seriously and are now using anti terror legislation to start making the arrests that should have happened some time ago. As predicted as the Gaza conflict has ground on there are more and more pro Palestine looks prepared to flirt with proscribed groups.

Maybe some halal time or fines will make these people think a bit more.

A number of police officers on a road with some members of the public taking photos and filming. The police appear to be carrying a person although only their foot can be seen in the image.

More than 70 arrests at Palestine Action ban protests

The protests - and the arrests - come after the pro-Palestinian group was proscribed as a terror organisation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

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SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 16:41

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 16:33

@SisforSusanna the border towns that were attacked on October 7th had a lot of aid workers and pro Palestinians living there. Hamas didn’t care, they slaughtered them anyway. Videoed them using their own phones and uploaded their slaughter to their own social media pages. No one wants to hear it.

What point are you trying to make here? You write as if I am a Hamas supporter. This is exactly what I mean by wanting a thread to discuss the way forward without people being so one sided.

TulipLavender · 13/07/2025 16:34

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Stirabout · 13/07/2025 16:33

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 16:30

Hezbollah were planning to attack Israel at the same time as Hamas. This was not ‘just a little bad thing’ as Dawn French would have you believe. It was attempted annihilation. Hostages have still not been returned. We should be screaming for their release but all we hear are excuses.

Devastating Netanyahu pulled out of the last ceasefire. If he’d stuck to the deal they’d all be home now

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 16:33

@SisforSusanna the border towns that were attacked on October 7th had a lot of aid workers and pro Palestinians living there. Hamas didn’t care, they slaughtered them anyway. Videoed them using their own phones and uploaded their slaughter to their own social media pages. No one wants to hear it.

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 16:30

Hezbollah were planning to attack Israel at the same time as Hamas. This was not ‘just a little bad thing’ as Dawn French would have you believe. It was attempted annihilation. Hostages have still not been returned. We should be screaming for their release but all we hear are excuses.

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 16:24

Comedycook · 13/07/2025 15:30

You must be exhausted...a quick google says there's over thirty conflicts going on right now....

It was the Srebrenica memorial day on the 11th July....I bet vast majority of the pro Palestinian crowd didn't know or care.

No I am not exhausted, but I think we have a duty to care about humanitarian crisis. It’s not that difficult to follow. I donate to humanitarian organisations who work in conflict areas. I also used to work for an aid organisations who myself, but I was not stationed in a war zone. I am not brave enough for that.

Comedycook · 13/07/2025 16:24

So predictable 😂its a shame I'm tee total...we could turn bingo into a drinking game instead. We'll all be smashed!

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 16:23

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 16:21

I am listening to Jewish voices. There are a lot of moderate Jewish voices coming out of Israel now. I wish they got more coverage.

Me too. For some reason everyone is focussed on the fringe extremists.

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 16:21

Voxon · 13/07/2025 15:47

Sorry I think they do see it! If they cared they'd listen to Jewish people like they would anyone else

I am listening to Jewish voices. There are a lot of moderate Jewish voices coming out of Israel now. I wish they got more coverage.

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 16:20

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 15:31

Its remarkable how many people just don't see the obvious Jew hate on these marches. And when Jewish people tell them they think its completely ok to just deny it.

*obviously I have my JVL/NK bingo card ready.

Well my friend is Jewish and attended one of these marches with me and her DD came along too.

DryDay · 13/07/2025 16:17

Voxon · 13/07/2025 07:30

These protests don't have anything to do with helping people in Gaza. It's a cult now, and the motivation behind it is bringing down Israel. If they were about helping people on Gaza they'd be full of people saying to return hostages, get rid of Hamas and so on. Not going on about "zionists" and the "Israel lobby". They got away with far too much for far too long.

Correct.

Comedycook · 13/07/2025 16:04

TulipLavender · 13/07/2025 15:50

Are you also wondering why the British airforce are not running daily surveillance flights over Sudan?

Are we allies to Sudan?

TulipLavender · 13/07/2025 16:03

Labelling organisations that oppose mass civillian deaths by painting airplanes or damaging arms manufactures as 'terrorists' undermines the label of the word terrorist.

The fact that you can be arrested for supporting an organisation that has never harmed anyone but absolutely no consequence comes for supporting the actions of a psychopathic regime who have killed thousands and thousands of children is disgusting.

Voxon · 13/07/2025 15:59

TulipLavender · 13/07/2025 15:50

Are you also wondering why the British airforce are not running daily surveillance flights over Sudan?

The British government doesn't profess to care equally about every conflict. The poster did

TulipLavender · 13/07/2025 15:50

TeenagersAngst · 13/07/2025 14:54

I agree there’s a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. There is also one in Sudan. Why does the Gaza conflict garner way more coverage than Sudan? Is it because of the involvement of Israel?

Are you also wondering why the British airforce are not running daily surveillance flights over Sudan?

Stirabout · 13/07/2025 15:49

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 15:28

I am not going to spend time responding to a poster who is dismissing tens and thousands of civilians mostly women and children dying as Hamas propaganda.
I think we are going in circles here.

I would be really interested in a thread with more. moderate voices where we could have a more interesting discussions about moving forward ie two state solution etc and how people think that could happen. Maybe I will try to start one.

Well said. Sick of all the me me deflections. Adult discussion can lead to great things if everyone is reasonable. A two state solution is recognised the world over as the only truly humanitarian solution.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 15:49

Voxon · 13/07/2025 15:47

Sorry I think they do see it! If they cared they'd listen to Jewish people like they would anyone else

I agree, I mean they pretend they don't see it really. Like Corbyn and the mural.

Voxon · 13/07/2025 15:47

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 15:31

Its remarkable how many people just don't see the obvious Jew hate on these marches. And when Jewish people tell them they think its completely ok to just deny it.

*obviously I have my JVL/NK bingo card ready.

Sorry I think they do see it! If they cared they'd listen to Jewish people like they would anyone else

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 15:47

Stirabout · 13/07/2025 15:45

No. But there’s always some that believe it is.

Oh, what is it then?

Stirabout · 13/07/2025 15:45

TeenagersAngst · 13/07/2025 14:54

I agree there’s a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. There is also one in Sudan. Why does the Gaza conflict garner way more coverage than Sudan? Is it because of the involvement of Israel?

No. But there’s always some that believe it is.

Beachtastic · 13/07/2025 15:43

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 15:28

I am not going to spend time responding to a poster who is dismissing tens and thousands of civilians mostly women and children dying as Hamas propaganda.
I think we are going in circles here.

I would be really interested in a thread with more. moderate voices where we could have a more interesting discussions about moving forward ie two state solution etc and how people think that could happen. Maybe I will try to start one.

With respect, I am not dismissing anything. Of course the situation is deeply distressing. I am just trying to share some perspective to convey why the "mass slaughter of civilians" condemnation of Israel is playing into Hamas's hands.

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 15:42

You don’t need to support a terrorist organisation to object to a war but this seems to be what is happening now. October 7th would have looked very different if Hamas and Hezbollahs original plan had succeeded.

War is hard but you can’t put out half a fire. These people truly want to wipe out the entire planet’s Jewish population. Now that would be a genocide.

Some of this is uni students thinking this is their Vietnam moment. It is not. Hamas is a death cult and they refer to western protesters as ‘useful idiots’. It is so sad so many people are falling for it.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 15:32

Comedycook · 13/07/2025 15:30

You must be exhausted...a quick google says there's over thirty conflicts going on right now....

It was the Srebrenica memorial day on the 11th July....I bet vast majority of the pro Palestinian crowd didn't know or care.

But if they could share all their tips for practical things we can all do to make a difference I'm sure we would all be grateful.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 15:31

Voxon · 13/07/2025 15:25

I remember going to protests for things, including Iraq war. Very different vibe.

These marches have people with faces covered, symbols of "the resistance" everywhere (terrorists), obviously antisemitic signs, deliberately trying to make Jews uncomfortable or intimidated. I think Hamas have thanked then as that's who they're helping

They're bullies really. Racist bullies. It's not a peace movement at all. They just hate Israel.

They can deny that all they want but the very first time I saw signs with swastikas or people ripping down hostage posters I would have left and not gone back.

Its remarkable how many people just don't see the obvious Jew hate on these marches. And when Jewish people tell them they think its completely ok to just deny it.

*obviously I have my JVL/NK bingo card ready.

Comedycook · 13/07/2025 15:30

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 15:23

Yes I do actually.

You must be exhausted...a quick google says there's over thirty conflicts going on right now....

It was the Srebrenica memorial day on the 11th July....I bet vast majority of the pro Palestinian crowd didn't know or care.