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At long last the police are cracking down on hard marches

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mids2019 · 13/07/2025 05:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

I think it's great that the police are starting to take supporting terrorists seriously and are now using anti terror legislation to start making the arrests that should have happened some time ago. As predicted as the Gaza conflict has ground on there are more and more pro Palestine looks prepared to flirt with proscribed groups.

Maybe some halal time or fines will make these people think a bit more.

A number of police officers on a road with some members of the public taking photos and filming. The police appear to be carrying a person although only their foot can be seen in the image.

More than 70 arrests at Palestine Action ban protests

The protests - and the arrests - come after the pro-Palestinian group was proscribed as a terror organisation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

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SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:48

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SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 23:39

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:37

There are tens of thousands of people
marching. You are focusing on a small minority who get all the coverage and it suits you as you can then dismiss everyone marching as somehow anti zionists. I am really comfortable marching alongside people calling for ceasefire and an end to the war.

But why are you comfortable also walking alongside people called for the destruction of Israel, promoting and justifying the hatred of Jews and supporting terrorists?

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:37

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 23:26

It is undeniable that there are racists and terrorist supporters on the marches. Pictures of parachutes, antisemitic cartoons, blood libel, 'Houthis Houthis make us proud', 'Judaism yes, Zionism no', 'From the river to the sea' etc. You have not corrected my narrative, what you have done is exposed your own unwillingness to see what is in front of you. The 'majority' may not be terrorist supporters, but they are willing to walk alongside them and apparently say nothing. What is it people say? Silence is complicity?

There are tens of thousands of people
marching. You are focusing on a small minority who get all the coverage and it suits you as you can then dismiss everyone marching as somehow anti zionists. I am really comfortable marching alongside people calling for ceasefire and an end to the war.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 23:36

Beachtastic · 13/07/2025 23:32

"It's an anti-war march" - so you keep saying...

But to me (as a non-Jew by the way), it seems like a very one-directional anti-war march. The slogans are all about stopping Israel, never about stopping Hamas. In fact, their blatantly genocidal intentions are downplayed as the struggle for freedom.

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Yes, 'resistance is justified' a constant refrain since immediately after 7th October. That should have been an end to it.

Beachtastic · 13/07/2025 23:32

"It's an anti-war march" - so you keep saying...

But to me (as a non-Jew by the way), it seems like a very one-directional anti-war march. The slogans are all about stopping Israel, never about stopping Hamas. In fact, their blatantly genocidal intentions are downplayed as the struggle for freedom.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 23:26

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:19

I am not ignoring you. I am correcting your narrative and the majority of the people marching are not terrorist supporters calling for the destruction of Israel. It’s an anti war march.

It is undeniable that there are racists and terrorist supporters on the marches. Pictures of parachutes, antisemitic cartoons, blood libel, 'Houthis Houthis make us proud', 'Judaism yes, Zionism no', 'From the river to the sea' etc. You have not corrected my narrative, what you have done is exposed your own unwillingness to see what is in front of you. The 'majority' may not be terrorist supporters, but they are willing to walk alongside them and apparently say nothing. What is it people say? Silence is complicity?

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:19

I am not ignoring you. I am correcting your narrative and the majority of the people marching are not terrorist supporters calling for the destruction of Israel. It’s an anti war march.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 23:17

Voxon · 13/07/2025 23:15

The marches in Israel aren't chanting for intifadas and "from the river to the sea" or harassing Jewish businesses or any of the things we object to. They're a good example of how to do a protest actually.

Exactly.

Voxon · 13/07/2025 23:15

The marches in Israel aren't chanting for intifadas and "from the river to the sea" or harassing Jewish businesses or any of the things we object to. They're a good example of how to do a protest actually.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 23:10

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:07

Good. So there is a strong anti war movement in Israel and in most European capitals we hold similar anti war marches. Anti war is not the same as another Jewish. Great we agree☺️

No you are deliberately ignoring my point. How does marchung in this country alongside open racists and terrorist supporters calling for the destruction of Israel help to bring about peace? Equating such people with the peace movement and hostage families in Israel is disgraceful.

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 23:07

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 22:53

Of course there are protests in Israel. There are always protests in Israel. Netanyahu's government is quite unpopular and there is a strong anti war movement and movement to bring home the hostages. That's got nothing to do with my point which was to ask you how marching alongside racists and terrorist sympathisers brings about peace.

Good. So there is a strong anti war movement in Israel and in most European capitals we hold similar anti war marches. Anti war is not the same as another Jewish. Great we agree☺️

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 22:53

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 22:36

There are protests in Israel too. A Jewish Facebook friend posted it on facebook and people were carrying placards of dead Palestinian children. The protests are not just in London. It’s in Israel too. It’s universal to recognise human suffering and want to put a stop to it.

Of course there are protests in Israel. There are always protests in Israel. Netanyahu's government is quite unpopular and there is a strong anti war movement and movement to bring home the hostages. That's got nothing to do with my point which was to ask you how marching alongside racists and terrorist sympathisers brings about peace.

SisforSusanna · 13/07/2025 22:36

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 19:01

Apologies, I must have missed it. The only post I saw was one where you said you marched with a Jewish friend which doesn't address this particular point.

There are protests in Israel too. A Jewish Facebook friend posted it on facebook and people were carrying placards of dead Palestinian children. The protests are not just in London. It’s in Israel too. It’s universal to recognise human suffering and want to put a stop to it.

Anonimummy · 13/07/2025 22:11

mouthpipette · 13/07/2025 19:33

Hezbollah were planning to attack Israel at the same time as Hamas. @DwarfBeans

Really ?
This sounds like tittle-tattle. Have you any evidence to support this ?
Hezbollah, although sending some missiles and rockets, effectively stayed out of the conflict until Oct 2024. and were subsequently decimated.
They didn't even know Hamas were planning Oct 7.

SOME missiles and rockets? Do you call over 8000 rockets SOME?

How many rockets equates to ‘effectively stayed out of the conflict’ to you?

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 20:20

@mouthpipette according to the New York Times and other sources, documents were recovered of minute meetings showing that not only did hezbollah and Iran know of the plan (and Hamas wanting them involved) but that their ‘big project’ was scheduled originally for 2022.

And let’s be honest, why would that be shocking? They’re all Iran’s puppets.

Alexandra2001 · 13/07/2025 20:05

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 19:54

You seem strangely unmoved by tbe death of children please dont drag me into it.

Not at all but it does show the IDF isn't interested in peace or limiting death....

Supported all the while by their friends in the West...

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 19:54

Alexandra2001 · 13/07/2025 19:50

Err Trump? without their arms Israel has to negotiate?

Iran? Trump can certainly bring them ie Hamas, to the table... they don't want to be bombed again....

10 children killed collecting water today, IDF say technical issues.... oh well, what a shame, all ok... move on.....

You seem strangely unmoved by tbe death of children please dont drag me into it.

Alexandra2001 · 13/07/2025 19:50

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 18:42

This is so simplistic that I just don't know what to say. Who is going to wave the magic wand to make this happen?

Err Trump? without their arms Israel has to negotiate?

Iran? Trump can certainly bring them ie Hamas, to the table... they don't want to be bombed again....

10 children killed collecting water today, IDF say technical issues.... oh well, what a shame, all ok... move on.....

Voxon · 13/07/2025 19:34

mouthpipette · 13/07/2025 19:33

Hezbollah were planning to attack Israel at the same time as Hamas. @DwarfBeans

Really ?
This sounds like tittle-tattle. Have you any evidence to support this ?
Hezbollah, although sending some missiles and rockets, effectively stayed out of the conflict until Oct 2024. and were subsequently decimated.
They didn't even know Hamas were planning Oct 7.

They stayed out of the conflict except for firing missiles and rockets? 🤔

mouthpipette · 13/07/2025 19:33

Hezbollah were planning to attack Israel at the same time as Hamas. @DwarfBeans

Really ?
This sounds like tittle-tattle. Have you any evidence to support this ?
Hezbollah, although sending some missiles and rockets, effectively stayed out of the conflict until Oct 2024. and were subsequently decimated.
They didn't even know Hamas were planning Oct 7.

DwarfBeans · 13/07/2025 19:20

Which can be the same argument for the people attending demos intimidating Jewish people and chanting from the river to the sea when they don’t even know what it means. Like it or not, if you go on those protests and don’t question the antisemitism you look like a terrorist supporter.