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Christian town in west bank attacked and burned

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smallglassbottle · 09/07/2025 19:24

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLsIanHxtrC/?igsh=MXZsMnlvM2Fxa3Iycw==

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/265035/priest-warns-christian-town-of-taybe-in-holy-land-no-longer-safe-amid-settler-attacks

https://www.friendsoftheholyland.org.uk/taybeh

I'm an Orthodox Christian. It has just occurred to me that we might lose all of our sacred places in the Holy Land if this hostility by israel continues.

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BibiSuzanne · 12/07/2025 11:01

Jk987 · 12/07/2025 10:35

Let’s not use religion to be divisive yet again 😩. Who cares what ancient book, irrelevant to modern society you choose to believe? We are all HUMAN.

100%

Helpnifoseeker · 12/07/2025 10:44

Treaclewell · 10/07/2025 19:55

I have been racking my brains for the sources, and have a nasty thought that it was a convert to a very evangelical church among my colleagues. They weren't comfortable with the traditional churches over here, either. So the Catholics and Orthodox over there are not kosher. The Allah comment was I think on TV.

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I remember hearing that Allah is just Arabic for God! Arabic speaking Christians wouldn't be referring to the same Allah as Muslims in that case.

Helpnifoseeker · 12/07/2025 10:40

Treaclewell · 10/07/2025 18:50

I have heard once that the Palestinian Christians are the wrong sort of Christian. Not evangelical findamentalists. And by using their own vernacular, they refer to God as Allah. Some people find that difficult.
I pray for all of the Palestinians every night. Christian, Muslim, Jew, and atheist. And the appalling settlers who, a lot coming from the US, don't need to steal land.

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I wonder if it's because most Christians in Palestine are Catholic or Orthodox? There is a error in some of the more fundamentalist Protestant denominations that we Catholics are not true Christians, and I have even been accused by some of them (online-surprise, surprise!) of being a pagan because I "worship" Mary as a goddess and "worship" idols because we have holy artwork in our churches and homes. This error has become quite common in some of these denominations because of a book written by a man called Hislop, can't remember his first name. It's an extremely anti-Catholic manuscript by all accounts.
As the Orthodox also venerate Mary, honour the saints and have holy artwork I imagine the same false accusations are thrown at them as well ?!

Jk987 · 12/07/2025 10:35

Let’s not use religion to be divisive yet again 😩. Who cares what ancient book, irrelevant to modern society you choose to believe? We are all HUMAN.

Helpnifoseeker · 12/07/2025 09:39

NotrialNodeal · 09/07/2025 20:27

O God Almighty, hear our prayers of lament! Our hearts are heavy as we witness the suffering of our brothers and sisters in Christ, as their lives are torn apart. Lord have mercy! We pray for all who live in the Holy Lands of sacred scriptures, may peace be with them, today and all the days of their life. Amen.

Thank you for this prayer, which I will try and memorise and God bless you.
@Coolpotatoface You're bang on the nail the lack of reporting by the MSM is anti-Christian bigotry. To this day, Christians are the most persecuted group globally and the Western media rarely report on it! I think we all know why!

SharonEllis · 12/07/2025 09:23

Twiglets1 · 12/07/2025 08:46

Yes I imagine they would.

A more moderate leader would be better for Israel going forward I think, and this is likely to happen at the post war elections.

Definitely. The sooner Netanyahu is gone the better.

Twiglets1 · 12/07/2025 08:46

SharonEllis · 12/07/2025 08:09

Indeed, its very unusual. No elections here in 1st or 2nd world war even though they were due. I think the Israeli people would quite like one so sooner Hamas surrender the better for everyone.

Yes I imagine they would.

A more moderate leader would be better for Israel going forward I think, and this is likely to happen at the post war elections.

SharonEllis · 12/07/2025 08:09

Twiglets1 · 12/07/2025 08:04

Elections don’t take place during war time in any country as far as I’m aware.

Indeed, its very unusual. No elections here in 1st or 2nd world war even though they were due. I think the Israeli people would quite like one so sooner Hamas surrender the better for everyone.

Twiglets1 · 12/07/2025 08:04

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/07/2025 01:22

So Netenyhu is beyond the law and the wishes of Israelis so long as he inflicts war?

I'm not wholly au fait with Israeli democracy but are you saying that elections there can't take place in the next round?Confused

Elections don’t take place during war time in any country as far as I’m aware.

veiledsentiments · 12/07/2025 05:35

I think that has been rumbling on in the background for quite some time. People have claimed that Bibi is prolonging the war so that he can keep his own sorry arse out of jail on the corruption charges he’s facing. Personally, if I was an Israeli, I would expect better.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/07/2025 01:22

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 23:00

Well Israel won't be holding elections while they are in the middle of war.

Another reason for Hamas to surrender, disarm, return the hostages and leave Gaza!

So Netenyhu is beyond the law and the wishes of Israelis so long as he inflicts war?

I'm not wholly au fait with Israeli democracy but are you saying that elections there can't take place in the next round?Confused

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 23:00

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/07/2025 22:09

Well Netenyahu is getting away with war crimes so failing to enact law and order where the victims are Palestinian Christians is a walk in the park.

How long until Israel goes to the polls? How many Palestinians will die before settlers are put back in their box?

Well Israel won't be holding elections while they are in the middle of war.

Another reason for Hamas to surrender, disarm, return the hostages and leave Gaza!

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/07/2025 22:09

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 17:32

No one deserves it @smallglassbottle. Unfortunately it is being encouraged by those in Israel, who think they can get away with it.

Well Netenyahu is getting away with war crimes so failing to enact law and order where the victims are Palestinian Christians is a walk in the park.

How long until Israel goes to the polls? How many Palestinians will die before settlers are put back in their box?

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 19:11

Or moved out of the West Bank, which they shouldn’t be occupying in the first place.

OpheliaWasntMad · 11/07/2025 18:58

dairydebris · 11/07/2025 15:35

The sooner the settlers are put back in their box by a moderate Israeli government the better.
Indefensible attack. Palestinian Christians are a part of the rich culture of the area- theres no justification for this.
I hope the people responsible are dealt with appropriately.

Absolutely agree

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 17:32

No one deserves it @smallglassbottle. Unfortunately it is being encouraged by those in Israel, who think they can get away with it.

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dairydebris · 11/07/2025 16:24

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 15:54

Several Palestinians, including children, were also injured when Israeli settlers, protected by Israeli forces, attacked homes near the village of al-Maniya, southeast of Bethlehem, the Wafa news agency reported.

And how likely is that?

Asking me how likely it is feels a bit belligerent tbh. I'm not getting into a back and forth with you.

Its enough for me to send my sympathies to those affected by this.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/07/2025 16:04

yallahbye · 11/07/2025 09:34

Might be fake news for all we know. I wouldn’t take anything seriously from Instagram.

This source ok?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/taybeh-church-leaders-condemn-rising-settler-harassment-arson-in-west-bank-town/

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 15:54

dairydebris · 11/07/2025 15:35

The sooner the settlers are put back in their box by a moderate Israeli government the better.
Indefensible attack. Palestinian Christians are a part of the rich culture of the area- theres no justification for this.
I hope the people responsible are dealt with appropriately.

Several Palestinians, including children, were also injured when Israeli settlers, protected by Israeli forces, attacked homes near the village of al-Maniya, southeast of Bethlehem, the Wafa news agency reported.

And how likely is that?

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 15:51

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 15:06

I never mentioned derailing. Just that the pro-Israelis weren’t here, because how can they defend Israelis attacking Christians when they can’t blame Hamas?

You might say everyone on this board agrees that the settlements have to go. I disagree. I’m sure in light of the fact that 82% of Israelis, in Israel think that Palestinians in the Gaza strip should go, then that would be a highly unlikely sentiment felt by EVERYONE on this board.

No but @PuttingOnTheKitsch and @TooBigForMyBoots did mention derailing so it seemed ironic when you were then criticising us for not coming to the thread.

It’s a fair point to say it’s possible that some on these boards could silently support the Settlers but I’ve not seen it expressed. Most of us are based in the UK as MN is a UK site and we have expressed that we do not support the settlers.

Saying “the illegal settlements in the West Bank have to go” is something we all either agree with or won’t dispute so either way it seems pointless for people to keep saying it on MN ( maybe on other sites it’s different).

dairydebris · 11/07/2025 15:35

The sooner the settlers are put back in their box by a moderate Israeli government the better.
Indefensible attack. Palestinian Christians are a part of the rich culture of the area- theres no justification for this.
I hope the people responsible are dealt with appropriately.

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 15:06

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 14:38

I think we all agree the settlements in the West Bank should go.

Also, how can the Israel supporters be both derailing the thread and ignoring it at the same time?

I never mentioned derailing. Just that the pro-Israelis weren’t here, because how can they defend Israelis attacking Christians when they can’t blame Hamas?

You might say everyone on this board agrees that the settlements have to go. I disagree. I’m sure in light of the fact that 82% of Israelis, in Israel think that Palestinians in the Gaza strip should go, then that would be a highly unlikely sentiment felt by EVERYONE on this board.

SharonEllis · 11/07/2025 14:50

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 14:38

I think we all agree the settlements in the West Bank should go.

Also, how can the Israel supporters be both derailing the thread and ignoring it at the same time?

We're paid to rule the world so we can surely manage that!

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 14:49

veiledsentiments · 11/07/2025 14:40

Not everyone @Twiglets1.

Not seen anyone on this board say they support the Settlers.