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Christian town in west bank attacked and burned

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smallglassbottle · 09/07/2025 19:24

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLsIanHxtrC/?igsh=MXZsMnlvM2Fxa3Iycw==

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/265035/priest-warns-christian-town-of-taybe-in-holy-land-no-longer-safe-amid-settler-attacks

https://www.friendsoftheholyland.org.uk/taybeh

I'm an Orthodox Christian. It has just occurred to me that we might lose all of our sacred places in the Holy Land if this hostility by israel continues.

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Martymcfly24 · 19/07/2025 14:05

Stripes56 · 19/07/2025 14:02

I would expect attempts to be made by the IDF to find out who was in the church before it struck it with a tank! Seems reasonable to me? There is no evidence there were sniper shots coming from the church from witness accounts.

The church was known to shelter people through the last 2 years bombardment of Gaza.

There has been no return fire from any person queueing for aid but another 32 were killed today at two aid sites.

Martymcfly24 · 19/07/2025 14:04

Stripes56 · 19/07/2025 13:25

Trying to suggest children and women are legitimate targets is also appalling:
”How are the IDF to determine who is a civilian and who is not, on the ground during fighting. Women and kids are also used to fight.”

Ultimate dehumanisation of Palestinians.

As it is, the church was struck with a tank (very brave- it was not ground fighting!) housed 50 children with special needs who could not be easily be moved.

They know exactly who everyone is and where they are. Most up to date technology for any military. I posted a couple of days ago how Israel own every phone number and Internet cable and use tracking software.

Moshe Feiglin a former member of the Knesset said "The enemy is not Hamas, every child every baby in Gaza is an enemy"

Stripes56 · 19/07/2025 14:04

@Anonimummy
What did you mean by:
“Women and kids are also used to fight,” if not to suggest that they are targets to? If you didn’t- I apologise, because I agree that they certainly are not legitimate targets!

Stripes56 · 19/07/2025 14:02

Anonimummy · 19/07/2025 13:50

Oh give over with the hysteria.

Thats not what said I said at all.

Maybe you could answer the question you actually quoted?

I would expect attempts to be made by the IDF to find out who was in the church before it struck it with a tank! Seems reasonable to me? There is no evidence there were sniper shots coming from the church from witness accounts.

The church was known to shelter people through the last 2 years bombardment of Gaza.

Anonimummy · 19/07/2025 13:50

Stripes56 · 19/07/2025 13:25

Trying to suggest children and women are legitimate targets is also appalling:
”How are the IDF to determine who is a civilian and who is not, on the ground during fighting. Women and kids are also used to fight.”

Ultimate dehumanisation of Palestinians.

As it is, the church was struck with a tank (very brave- it was not ground fighting!) housed 50 children with special needs who could not be easily be moved.

Oh give over with the hysteria.

Thats not what said I said at all.

Maybe you could answer the question you actually quoted?

Stripes56 · 19/07/2025 13:25

Trying to suggest children and women are legitimate targets is also appalling:
”How are the IDF to determine who is a civilian and who is not, on the ground during fighting. Women and kids are also used to fight.”

Ultimate dehumanisation of Palestinians.

As it is, the church was struck with a tank (very brave- it was not ground fighting!) housed 50 children with special needs who could not be easily be moved.

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 13:21

Also are the IDF doing much ground fighting or combat? Or is it mostly shooting with drones, bombing with drones and airstrikes, which target civilian infrastructure, including tents now.

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 13:19

Anyone any update on Taybeh?

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 13:18

If you give a shit about Sudan, set up a thread for it.
I've said this before, it's perfectly legitimate to say "this cause is particularly important to me". People have their own reasons why. Support organisations are often started by a person who had a particular interest in one area. Trying to suggest that people who are interested in this topic are somehow wrong is not right. Trying to suggest that people who are supportive of this topic particularly is wrong. Trying to suggest that people who are supporting this topic, but not others is wrong. We don't have to signal every cause we support to show we are somehow giving a shit.
People are entitled to support this.

Anonimummy · 19/07/2025 12:40

SharonEllis · 19/07/2025 06:41

Where did I say every civilian is the enemy? But obviously in a war you have 2 or more sides that see each other as the 'enemy'.

How are the IDF to determine who is a civilian and who is not, on the ground during fighting. Women and kids are also used to fight. The reality is that there is no sure way for the IDF to determine who is uninvolved and who is not. That is all on Hamas for their cowardly strategy of getting as many civilians killed as possible to save themselves and demonise Israel. How can any of their supporters seriously think they are in anyway ‘heroic resistance fighters’. I guess just goes to prove their mindset and intelligence.

In fact every Palestinian ‘resistance’ movement has hidden behind and targeted civilians not just Hamas. The PLO, Fatah,etc, all the exact same MO.

This is what the ultracrepidarians rattling out rubbish on their keyboards ignore or don’t understand. Trying to kid themselves they are on some mission to stop a ‘genocide’, when they are actually just playing into the hands of barbaric monsters.

If Israel wasn’t involved, they would give as much of a shit as they do about the horrors in Sudan.

DrPrunesqualer · 19/07/2025 12:24

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 12:19

Protecting civilians and holy sites. Where?

Exactly But his followers will believe everything that spews out of his mouth.

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 12:19

Protecting civilians and holy sites. Where?

DrPrunesqualer · 19/07/2025 12:15

YourOnMute · 18/07/2025 22:35

I don't have it to hand but I think approx 4 churches and over 1000 mosques have been attacked. Bombed, air strike. Of course civilians would be sheltering in them all.
(Not including schools, hospitals, shops, pharmacies, clinics, houses, flats, playgrounds and now tents).

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And yet in that article posted about the church Netanyahu says this.

Honestly the lies are never ending.

Christian town in west bank attacked and burned
YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 11:59

savory · 19/07/2025 08:40

Pontious Pilate washed his hands of complicity.

"I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it yourselves."

A cowardly act, who tried to divest himself of the blame. Trying to blame others. This is why we have the phrase "tried to wash his hands of it".

smallglassbottle · 19/07/2025 10:23

savory · 19/07/2025 08:36

Crikey arch Zionist US Ambassador Huckabee is publically speaking out - ethnofascists generally act like ethnofacists shock.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/huckabee-threatens-to-declare-israel-not-welcoming-christians-as-visa-row-blows-open/

Huckabee threatens to declare Israel does not welcome Christians, as visa row blows open
US envoy pens scathing letter to interior minister, accusing Israel of blocking Christian groups from entering Israel and warning of reciprocal steps against Israeli visa seekers

Ethofascist vs ethnofascist 🤔 interesting to see how this one plays out. It may provide us with an indication of Israel's intentions towards the Christians going forward.

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savory · 19/07/2025 08:40

PaxAeterna · 18/07/2025 23:14

I thought the romans killed Jesus.

Pontious Pilate washed his hands of complicity.

"I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it yourselves."

savory · 19/07/2025 08:36

Crikey arch Zionist US Ambassador Huckabee is publically speaking out - ethnofascists generally act like ethnofacists shock.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/huckabee-threatens-to-declare-israel-not-welcoming-christians-as-visa-row-blows-open/

Huckabee threatens to declare Israel does not welcome Christians, as visa row blows open
US envoy pens scathing letter to interior minister, accusing Israel of blocking Christian groups from entering Israel and warning of reciprocal steps against Israeli visa seekers

SharonEllis · 19/07/2025 06:41

PaxAeterna · 18/07/2025 22:27

Well at least you are honest that you see every Palestinian civilian as the enemy. You have given up the notion that they are not being targeted so.

Edited

Where did I say every civilian is the enemy? But obviously in a war you have 2 or more sides that see each other as the 'enemy'.

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/07/2025 00:43

Mabiri · 19/07/2025 00:09

That's not what I'm saying at all but as you are determined that it is, there's no point repeating myself.

You called it bile from an Antisemitic account without demonstrating how it was Antisemetic.

I know the definition of Antisemetism you seem confused.

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 00:21

Mabiri · 19/07/2025 00:10

I never accused you of saying anything you didnt say.

Ok, in your own words: good for you. You are not the authority.
We'll have to agree to differ.
I don't want to divert this thread from it's topic of a town being attacked in the West Bank and now a church being bombed in Gaza.

Mabiri · 19/07/2025 00:10

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 00:00

And my previous post where I said the trope you referred to is wrong.

And to say, I dislike being misinterpreted and being accused of things I did not say. I know threads can move quickly.

I never accused you of saying anything you didnt say.

Mabiri · 19/07/2025 00:09

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/07/2025 23:58

Again, you're accusing them of being antisemitic because they're 21st century Christians posting scripture.🤷‍♀️

You say your definition of antisemitism doesn't extend to all followers of Christianity, what makes this account different?

That's not what I'm saying at all but as you are determined that it is, there's no point repeating myself.

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 00:06

Does anyone have any update on Taybeh? I know it was being attacked by settlers unfortunately (West Bank). I haven't heard anything in a few days.

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/07/2025 00:01

I suspect that if they had a post saying saying that they hate all Jews and Hitler did nothing wrong you'd still be just as gaslighty.

You would be very wrong. Suspecting something doesn't make it real.🙄

YourOnMute · 19/07/2025 00:00

And my previous post where I said the trope you referred to is wrong.

And to say, I dislike being misinterpreted and being accused of things I did not say. I know threads can move quickly.