Israels plan for Gazas future

Except for logically and practically if you annihilate and destroy all the instruments needed to sustain life (food and water production, shelter, hospitals) you are indirectly destroying a population.

You’re quite correct I did. So. Strike that. The rest still stands though.

By all means, keep showing your true colours. Very illuminating.

No you said 'annihilating a population' . Population is by definition people. It never ever means infrastructure.

I agree from a current % of the population this is correct. However. - the term has been used by others, - it has been and can be used to describe destroyed infrastructure alone - it doesn’t have to be just about % of deaths. Hence, I’m fine with the word but I’m glad I checked so thanks to those who queried it.

@DrPrunesqualer ”Annihilation is a term I believe to be accurate.”

The explanation literally gives the example of ‘the brutal annihilation of millions of people.’

Where have the IDF annihilated millions of people?
There seems to be a lot of effort, since October the 8th 2023 (after the massacre partying ended and the repercussions began) to conflate, using the same language that accurately described the Holocaust, to the plight of Gaza.
It’s nothing of the sort. Right minded people can see this. Right minded governments also, which is why no one has come to the rescue.
Because it isn’t a holocaust, an annihilation, a genocide.

But the population of gaza isnt being 'completely destroyed' is it? That is objectively untrue. The numbers killed amount to a very small percentage of the population and a large proportion are combatants (not normal soldiers because Hamas choose a different approach). It is completely normal to kill combatants in a war. Civilian deaths are always tragic but this hyperbole is blatant misinformation.

We will never know the true extent of the deaths. This I fear has been very deliberate... It's tragic. Not even in death will they get justice.

Hamas’ figures over all the years that Israel has “mown the grass” in Gaza have been verified as correct. The figures this time may be incorrect because they only account for verified deaths. How many bodies are under the rubble?

Ok I'm not attacking anybody.

If that is what you read into that I apologize but I would have that it was quite clear from that post and the following one that I was unaware the other poster knew he was Jewish as the sentence.
"Is there a reason you think Jewish people should listen or take heed from an ACTOR"
Stood out from me that they were not grouped in with "Jewish people"

Why would I possibly think he speaks for all Jewish people, but he his opinion is valid (despite what @Anonimummy thinks)

I have no idea. The casualty figures come from Hamas and I think its unlikely that Hamas are significantly underestimating the death toll.

So when are the journalists going to be allowed in? You talk about hyperbole why do we have to rely on only Israeli reports, when we could rely on independent journalists? To rely on Israeli reports is like Dennis Rodman going to North Korea and being shown a supermarket full of food by Kim Jong Yn.

I'm not using hyperbole I was just asking you to clarify that you don't think that one Jewish voice speaks for all Jews because that is what I took from your post saying "he is Jewish" (so what if he is?).

If you could just engage without going on the attack that would be amazing.

But the population of gaza isnt being 'completely destroyed' is it? That is objectively untrue. The numbers killed amount to a very small percentage of the population and a large proportion are combatants (not normal soldiers because Hamas choose a different approach). It is completely normal to kill combatants in a war. Civilian deaths are always tragic but this hyperbole is blatant misinformation.

No I absolutely dont. I gave no indication of that whatsoever. It was to counteract the other poster who seemed to think he should not be allowed an opinion despite being Jewish .

You do yourself and your argument a disservice by using hyperbole like that and by putting words in people mouths.

I was asking you to clarify that one Jewish voice doesn't speak for all Jews.

Because you seem to think that Jews in Israel should listen to Mandy Patinkin because "he is Jewish".

Annihilation is a term I believe to be accurate. Given pps queries here I had a look over news etc articles to see if annihilation is too aggressive a term. It seems not. This article for example notes ‘whilst states argue over terminology ‘…. People can argue but the unfolding outcome remains the same. dictionary definition number 1 then article also using annihilation to describe what’s happening in Gaza. I’ll use the terms I deem appropriate unless I believe the definition wrong. It isn’t.