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Israels plan for Gazas future

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MixedMetals · 07/07/2025 22:40

Defense Minister Israel Katz said Monday that he has instructed the IDF to prepare a plan to establish a "humanitarian city" on the ruins of Rafah, which would eventually house the entire population of the Gaza Strip.

According to Katz, the plan involves moving 600,000 Palestinians, primarily from the al-Muwasi area, into the new zone after security screening. Once inside, residents would not be allowed to leave, the defense minister said.

Katz added that, if conditions permit, construction of the "city" would begin during the 60-day Israel-Hamas cease-fire currently under negotiation.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-07/ty-article/.premium/defense-minister-israel-to-concentrate-all-gaza-population-in-rafah-humanitarian-zone/00000197-e56a-d1ad-ab97-e5ef764e0000

Defense minister: Israel to concentrate all Gaza population in Rafah 'humanitarian' zone

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-07/ty-article/.premium/defense-minister-israel-to-concentrate-all-gaza-population-in-rafah-humanitarian-zone/00000197-e56a-d1ad-ab97-e5ef764e0000

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itsagreayarea · 11/07/2025 18:46

dairydebris · 11/07/2025 18:11

👏
I typed about 3 responses to this slogan salad then just gave up.
So bored of people telling me I need to 'find my humanity' and that my silence and tax 'makes me complicit'.

Its a parenting website ffs. No of course we dont think its OK to kill children.

No depth of thought at all to these kind of comments.

It must be really troubling you then.

itsagreayarea · 11/07/2025 18:45

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 18:04

No one thinks it’s “ok to kill children”

It’s not a case of lacking humanity it’s that some people hold Hamas ultimately responsible & some hold the IDF responsible.

It’s never ok to kill children which is why we shouldn’t have wars.

They are both responsible now.
It’s not about taking sides, anymore.

Too many innocent children have died.
There are ways to do less harm.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/07/2025 18:31

Anonimummy · 11/07/2025 18:27

They basically want to try and shame us for not supporting terrorism.

They don’t want to hold Hamas to account for not surrendering a war they had no hope of winning while hiding behind their own civilians and using them as cannon fodder, despite Hamas leaders being quite open that is what they are doing.

Has there ever been a war where the aggressor has invaded, slaughtered, tortured and injured thousands, gang raped women, taken hundreds of hostages, (after decades of smaller attacks) refused to surrender (while still holding hostages) and has vowed to attack again and again, and the other side has been pressured to withdraw leaving them in power to do just that?

Edited

Yep the English in Ireland

Anonimummy · 11/07/2025 18:27

dairydebris · 11/07/2025 18:11

👏
I typed about 3 responses to this slogan salad then just gave up.
So bored of people telling me I need to 'find my humanity' and that my silence and tax 'makes me complicit'.

Its a parenting website ffs. No of course we dont think its OK to kill children.

No depth of thought at all to these kind of comments.

They basically want to try and shame us for not supporting terrorism.

They don’t want to hold Hamas to account for not surrendering a war they had no hope of winning while hiding behind their own civilians and using them as cannon fodder, despite Hamas leaders being quite open that is what they are doing.

Has there ever been a war where the aggressor has invaded, slaughtered, tortured and injured thousands, gang raped women, taken hundreds of hostages, (after decades of smaller attacks) refused to surrender (while still holding hostages) and has vowed to attack again and again, and the other side has been pressured to withdraw leaving them in power to do just that?

dairydebris · 11/07/2025 18:11

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 18:04

No one thinks it’s “ok to kill children”

It’s not a case of lacking humanity it’s that some people hold Hamas ultimately responsible & some hold the IDF responsible.

It’s never ok to kill children which is why we shouldn’t have wars.

👏
I typed about 3 responses to this slogan salad then just gave up.
So bored of people telling me I need to 'find my humanity' and that my silence and tax 'makes me complicit'.

Its a parenting website ffs. No of course we dont think its OK to kill children.

No depth of thought at all to these kind of comments.

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 18:04

itsagreayarea · 11/07/2025 16:20

All the lit reviews and navel-gazing will never take us to a place, where any of this violence is justifiable.

If you think it’s ok to kill children, dig deep for your humanity until you find it. Until then, your silence and tax is helping this genocide.

No one thinks it’s “ok to kill children”

It’s not a case of lacking humanity it’s that some people hold Hamas ultimately responsible & some hold the IDF responsible.

It’s never ok to kill children which is why we shouldn’t have wars.

itsagreayarea · 11/07/2025 16:20

All the lit reviews and navel-gazing will never take us to a place, where any of this violence is justifiable.

If you think it’s ok to kill children, dig deep for your humanity until you find it. Until then, your silence and tax is helping this genocide.

Anonimummy · 10/07/2025 21:10

😂

Dangermoo · 10/07/2025 20:02

dairydebris · 10/07/2025 19:51

🤣

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dairydebris · 10/07/2025 19:51

HellsBalls · 10/07/2025 19:20

You mean Jezbollah?

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Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 19:26

HellsBalls · 10/07/2025 19:20

You mean Jezbollah?

😂

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 19:24

HellsBalls · 10/07/2025 19:20

You mean Jezbollah?

That's the one 😂

HellsBalls · 10/07/2025 19:20

sualipa · 10/07/2025 12:45

Magic Grandpa – the incorruptible hero of Glastonbury who transformed the Labour Party into the largest grassroots political movement in Europe, only to be brought down by smears, lies, and a coordinated campaign by the establishment at home and abroad to silence and discredit him. He lives on in our hearts and minds.

You mean Jezbollah?

Dangermoo · 10/07/2025 14:47

Nooooo @forgesofEmpires you will be sorely missed. Good luck on your recovery x

Dangermoo · 10/07/2025 14:45

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:17

I thought she was being sarcastic 😂

😆 🤣

Anonimummy · 10/07/2025 14:39

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:18

Please be sure to come back, your knowledge and good sense are very welcome here!

I agree @ForgesOfEmpires, please dip back in occasionally, as I too have appreciated your well informed posts and perspective of someone from the region with knowledge and experience those of us in the West would not have been aware of or have experienced just from reading about it.

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:26

Tooblondetooyoung · 10/07/2025 14:25

I love both of those tbh.

There's room for everyone!

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 14:25

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:23

I bloody love Germaine Greer & I can't believe she would give Corbyn the time of day 😁

😂

Tooblondetooyoung · 10/07/2025 14:25

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:23

I bloody love Germaine Greer & I can't believe she would give Corbyn the time of day 😁

I love both of those tbh.

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:23

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 14:22

No I don't think so.

Got an image of @sualipa in my head and she's like Germaine Greer (who I do like but find some of Germaine's ideas a bit batty).

I bloody love Germaine Greer & I can't believe she would give Corbyn the time of day 😁

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 14:22

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:17

I thought she was being sarcastic 😂

No I don't think so.

Got an image of @sualipa in my head and she's like Germaine Greer (who I do like but find some of Germaine's ideas a bit batty).

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 14:19

ForgesOfEmpires · 10/07/2025 13:36

I have been here for a few days - I had a few days of work recuperating from an op but I do need to go back to the day job now, and being ADHD (or at least in my own head) I do tend to get completely obsessed with anything I am interested in, so Mumsnet, like gambling, aren't luxuries I usually afford myself.

As I have had lots of interesting chats with a lot of very well informed people, I wanted to say bye bye and thanks for that!

Oh no @ForgesOfEmpires !

I have so enjoyed all the interesting knowledge you have shared over the last few days and listening to your reasonable "voice".

Can't Mumsnet be an occasional vice going forward? Like a weekend vice or something... like a drug that you only take occasionally and can give up whenever you want???

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:18

ForgesOfEmpires · 10/07/2025 13:36

I have been here for a few days - I had a few days of work recuperating from an op but I do need to go back to the day job now, and being ADHD (or at least in my own head) I do tend to get completely obsessed with anything I am interested in, so Mumsnet, like gambling, aren't luxuries I usually afford myself.

As I have had lots of interesting chats with a lot of very well informed people, I wanted to say bye bye and thanks for that!

Please be sure to come back, your knowledge and good sense are very welcome here!

SharonEllis · 10/07/2025 14:17

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 14:13

Like @dairydebris I was smiling reading your post.

It was so utterly predictable that you would love Corbyn.

I don't mean that in a bad way. I think you're idealistic and out of touch with reality but in a well - meaning way.

I agree that you bring some light hearted moments to these threads which are very welcome.

I thought she was being sarcastic 😂

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2025 14:13

sualipa · 10/07/2025 12:45

Magic Grandpa – the incorruptible hero of Glastonbury who transformed the Labour Party into the largest grassroots political movement in Europe, only to be brought down by smears, lies, and a coordinated campaign by the establishment at home and abroad to silence and discredit him. He lives on in our hearts and minds.

Like @dairydebris I was smiling reading your post.

It was so utterly predictable that you would love Corbyn.

I don't mean that in a bad way. I think you're idealistic and out of touch with reality but in a well - meaning way.

I agree that you bring some light hearted moments to these threads which are very welcome.