Israeli soldier openly talks about how the IDF kill innocent Palestinians

Honestly I think this conversation might be beyond you if you can't see that the IDF killing children is a consequence of what happened years ago.
As you lot are so fond of pointing out, these things dont happen in a vacuum.
Nothing justifys the IDF killing civilians.
Nothing justifys Hamas killing civilians.

I haven't heard a single person justify war crimes on here. I have heard many say they expect them in a war, and that's awful to hear but its true.

So come on, actions have consequences, history flows, who started the first Arab / Israeli war?

I've already commented on the war crimes, 3 times.
I don't find it difficult to accept war crimes are being commited. Every single war I've studied, war crimes have been commited.

Have you got anything to add to the conversation other than just the froth of hatred?

You start your questions with "I think". Why would I answer to your opinions and hypothetical nonsense?

If your answer to OP's thread and the admission of killing civillians is "they are killing civilians due to history", what further discussion is there. That's your answer.

That wasn't the first Arab / Israeli war.
Who started the first one?

I'm not deflecting. Ive already commented on the IDF killing civilians upthread. It's awful. It's a war crime.

Of course it does.

The IDF are killing civilians as a direct result of the history. And I already made my comments about that upthread.

Not a single comment on any of the questions I asked you?

Palestinian at that time just referred to anyone living in the British Mandate for Palestine. So Jews, Arabs etc.

What do you mean ' Palestinian Land'?

Do you mean none of it belonged to any Jewish people? Because thats factually incorrect.

None of this has a real bearing on the IDF sytematically targetting civilians including children. You talk of deflection.

The Israelis are the ones killing innocent civilians (mostly women and children) night and day, estimated nearly 60 thousand dead, true figure probably much higher. Any comment on the article posted by the OP?

I dont think the British did instigate it. They were merely the last overlords who failed to pacify a constantly fighting area.

I agree the more interesting question is who took whos land. To that I'd say theres as many different answers as stories of people living in Mandatory Palestine.

Would you feel it would be right for every Israeli who took land that was vacated by Arabs who were forced out during the war they started to return that land? Reparations maybe? What do you think should be the way forward? Can those Jews who bought land from Arab owners keep it? What about if Palestinians were granted the right to return, and that changed Israel proper to a majority Arab state ( I dont know the numbers on this ) should that still be allowed to happen? Should Israel allow the right of return given that a decent proportion of at least Gazan civilians believe Israel has no right to exist?

None of these are easy questions.

Our government is offering asylum to anyone in Palestine,I believe I read somewhere recently,so at least that can help get some people out of harms way

You should try to find someone from the 1920 or 1929 riots in Jerusalem and the Western Wall and find out who insulted who first and who threw the first punch. There isn't a this side or that side answer to the question. But the fact remains that it was Palestinian land.

Right. The double standard is so blatant but yet they don't see it.

Hamas = all Palestinians
IDF = a select few (except when it comes to criticizing them, then they suddenly represent all Jewish people and it's anti-Semitism).

It makes your head spin.

Whats up with the constant deflection?
Who started the first Arab / Israeli war?
As for yours, who struck first? How far back do you want to go? To King Herod? Perhaps Titus? What about the Arab conquest hundreds of years after the birth of Muhammed? Who struck first? Tribal people, Jews, Christians and Muslims ( in that order ) have been murdering each other in the region for thousands of years... I dont actually know who struck first, do you? Please do enlighten me?

Hamas isn't everyone in Palestine
It's a limited few ,who seem to be trying to speak for everyone
There's families just trying to survive getting shot standing in a qué for food
They are clearly not part of hamas

That's a nice way to pin it one event as if there was no build up to it. If anyone instigated it, it would be the British. I think the more honest question would be who took whose land? The belief that one group is superior to the other goes way back.

Oh give over. This is wearing a bit thin now. Open your eyes.

So what I don't understand is how everyone missed the point of the Glastonbury situation..why were people getting upset at the shouting of ....death to the IDF ....,and saying it's anti-Semitic.
The IDF isn't a religion,it's a army or police force..so it can't be classed as anti Semitic to be against it
Plus why were people getting more upset with what he shouted and linking it to that lady in prison for her Facebook post .
Two different things
IDF are murdering innocent people in food lines ..why is that swept under the carpet in this country and people more upset about someone shouting about the IDF
Feels like the world has gone mad at the moment