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Hamas nearly gone?

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mids2019 · 06/07/2025 18:10

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gk79xlzwjo

This is important. Hamas are nearly defeated and so is it in Israel's interests to finish the job? It will be interesting to see if Hamas actually have authority when it comes to negotiations or whether they are a busted flush outrageously demanding concessions when they are defeated.

It seems Palestinian society is descending into a barbaric chaos and I don't how these armed gangs will be represented in future Gazan governance unless it is broken up into clan fiefdoms?

Displaced Palestinian children play inside a destroyed police car in a temporary camp within the site of the Arafat Police Academy, in the destroyed police camp affiliated with Hamas, in Gaza City (10 April 2025)

Hamas security officer says group has lost control over most of Gaza /OR/ Hamas security officer says clans filling void as group loses control of Gaza

The officer says Israeli strikes have devastated the group's leadership and structure, and that armed clans are filling the void.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gk79xlzwjo

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Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 21:02

SharonEllis · 09/07/2025 20:56

I do miss the laughing emoji. All power to those of you attempting to keep a grip on reality!

I have missed that laughing emoji so much today.

SharonEllis · 09/07/2025 20:56

I do miss the laughing emoji. All power to those of you attempting to keep a grip on reality!

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 19:27

Anonimummy · 09/07/2025 19:21

No? I thought you brought up that they were sweet and ripe and ready. A bit out there from the topic of the thread so assumed you were musing about eating some.

I was right about blowing hot air though.

Because a pp called me Dr Prune….my post was relevant to that abbreviation of my username. Why are we making posts on this. 🤣🤣🤣. Isn’t this thread by @mids2019 important enough. My username is completely irrelevant. Moving on….

Anonimummy · 09/07/2025 19:21

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 19:11

Nice one! Dr Prunesqualer ( I hav changed the spelling somewhat ) is a character in Gormenghast….clever, charitable and funny. If we have to resort to slagging off someone’s username i think we can all see it’s got a bit desperate. I don’t even like prunes 🤣🤣🤣🤣

No? I thought you brought up that they were sweet and ripe and ready. A bit out there from the topic of the thread so assumed you were musing about eating some.

I was right about blowing hot air though.

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 19:11

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Nice one! Dr Prunesqualer ( I hav changed the spelling somewhat ) is a character in Gormenghast….clever, charitable and funny. If we have to resort to slagging off someone’s username i think we can all see it’s got a bit desperate. I don’t even like prunes 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 18:23

Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 18:05

I’ll assume you meant sweet though with this weather who knows.

The rest of your post is like the trap that wasn’t the trap - strange.

I did mean sweet 🤣. But hey, I wouldn’t want to deflect away from. So ‘are Hamas all gone ‘…. Apparently not as they're still shooting at women and children getting aid.

Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 18:05

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:40

Prunes are sweat and ripe and ready this time of year.

I’ll assume you meant sweet though with this weather who knows.

The rest of your post is like the trap that wasn’t the trap - strange.

Anonimummy · 09/07/2025 17:54

ForgesOfEmpires · 09/07/2025 17:43

Can anyone guess the exact moment when history began???

I think I know this one!!!

Hmm I think it must have been 1948 when those pesky Jews didn’t get driven into the sea. Blast them and their ingenuity and will to survive that they were able to fight off all those established Arab armies without even having a proper one themselves.

<no offence to Jewish people - sarcasm>

dairydebris · 09/07/2025 17:47

Anonimummy · 09/07/2025 17:44

Yeah, that’s why they planned and executed Oct 7th, they thought that would ensure safety for Gaza.

They had absolutely no idea that Israel would retaliate or try to get their hundreds of hostages back after seeing the atrocities they carried out.

No other country would have, would they? Just Israel being totally over dramatic about a genocide of civilians at a music festival, gang raping, torture and mutilation, and a few kibbutzim being wiped out.

What was the fuss?

That should have totally assured the safety of Gazans.

But they didn't plan and execute October 7th. It was a trap. Those poor, misunderstood fluffy wuffy terrorists.

Anonimummy · 09/07/2025 17:44

dairydebris · 09/07/2025 16:48

Hamas wants Gazans to be safe?
Are you serious?

Yeah, that’s why they planned and executed Oct 7th, they thought that would ensure safety for Gaza.

They had absolutely no idea that Israel would retaliate or try to get their hundreds of hostages back after seeing the atrocities they carried out.

No other country would have, would they? Just Israel being totally over dramatic about a genocide of civilians at a music festival, gang raping, torture and mutilation, and a few kibbutzim being wiped out.

What was the fuss?

That should have totally assured the safety of Gazans.

ForgesOfEmpires · 09/07/2025 17:43

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:38

It didn’t start on October 7th. If you believe that then I’m done.

Can anyone guess the exact moment when history began???

I think I know this one!!!

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:40

Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 17:32

You've rumbled us Dr Prune!

There are a group of MNs who have all got together (in my living room actually) and hatched a plan to discredit you.

Is this another case of walking into a trap that wasn't a trap or something else?

Prunes are sweat and ripe and ready this time of year.

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:38

Memely · 09/07/2025 17:36

They started a losing war, if they cared about their people they would surrender. A ceasefire is just a chance for the enemy to rearm. You don't get to demand a ceasefire when you've started a war which you're losing.

It didn’t start on October 7th. If you believe that then I’m done.

Memely · 09/07/2025 17:36

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:16

Surrender to what. They’ve been invaded. The last ceasefire agreement was going ahead. All hostages to be released and the IDF to withdraw. The agreement got to stage 1 then Netanyahu pulled out. He refused to move to the next stage as that was the beginning of IDF withdrawal. He chose to carry on the bombing. Hamas didn’t pull out. They were ready to release more hostages in stage 2 and so on. All well documented. What’s the confusion here. Is this just the IG and followers wanting it all about one side. Two sides are involved in negotiations whether we like any of them or not.

They started a losing war, if they cared about their people they would surrender. A ceasefire is just a chance for the enemy to rearm. You don't get to demand a ceasefire when you've started a war which you're losing.

Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 17:32

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:26

So the tactic has been to discredit the poster who dares to post Netanyahus long held intentions as a way to avoid ever having to explain what those are. The UNGA IG map says it all. A few mumsnetters not ‘getting it’ is not an issue in the grand scale of things. I just wish people would take on board reality if Just to reflect on how very sad this plan is. I hope it’s opened just a few eyes on here.

You've rumbled us Dr Prune!

There are a group of MNs who have all got together (in my living room actually) and hatched a plan to discredit you.

Is this another case of walking into a trap that wasn't a trap or something else?

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:26

dairydebris · 09/07/2025 17:01

Yep.

There's no point is there. Jesus.

So the tactic has been to discredit the poster who dares to post Netanyahus long held intentions as a way to avoid ever having to explain what those are. The UNGA IG map says it all. A few mumsnetters not ‘getting it’ is not an issue in the grand scale of things. I just wish people would take on board reality if Just to reflect on how very sad this plan is. I hope it’s opened just a few eyes on here.

Firealarm1414 · 09/07/2025 17:20

"Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe. "

This one of the major problems of this conflict, a bunch of useful idiots who parrot hamas propaganda and believe any old shite they read on social media, such as earlier when a poster claimed that Israel had wiped out almost the entire civilian population. Several days ago there were people spreading hamas' ridiculous claims on various social media platforms that Israel were setting up literal sugar traps to trap hungry gazans in holes ffs and putting oxycodone pills into flour. They literally have zero critical thinking skills. The fact that hamas are doing everything they can to sabotage the new aid process says everything about them and their concern for their people. They are majorly pissed off that they can no longer have control over the food and other aid.

But yeah sure, hamas are just lovely people who care about their people lol 🙄. That's why they use them as human shields, steal aid and sell it back to them at extortionate prices, kill and torture people who protest them, kill aid workers trying to get aid to the population without them being involved and much more. Thats why their leaders live in luxury in qatar, away from any warzone. Hamas don't want the population safe. They want them hungry, killed and injured all to further their own aims.

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 17:16

Memely · 09/07/2025 16:58

Then why the fuck don't they release the hostages and surrender?

Surrender to what. They’ve been invaded. The last ceasefire agreement was going ahead. All hostages to be released and the IDF to withdraw. The agreement got to stage 1 then Netanyahu pulled out. He refused to move to the next stage as that was the beginning of IDF withdrawal. He chose to carry on the bombing. Hamas didn’t pull out. They were ready to release more hostages in stage 2 and so on. All well documented. What’s the confusion here. Is this just the IG and followers wanting it all about one side. Two sides are involved in negotiations whether we like any of them or not.

RoastSquash · 09/07/2025 17:14

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 16:43

Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe. Unlike Netanyahu who pulled out of the last ceasefire which would have brought the hostages home. Why didn’t he stick to it, because it wasn’t the Pham. Don’t demean my comments it doesn’t put posters in a good light. We all see Netanyahu’s goal even if some prefer to make light of it.

Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe.

Which makes their actions even more incomprehensible then because they already had Gaza and they're responsible for the population becoming extremely unsafe. Good grief.

dairydebris · 09/07/2025 17:01

Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 16:56

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks that Hamas cares about Gazan civilians is too deluded to bother debating with.

Yep.

There's no point is there. Jesus.

ForgesOfEmpires · 09/07/2025 16:58

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 16:43

Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe. Unlike Netanyahu who pulled out of the last ceasefire which would have brought the hostages home. Why didn’t he stick to it, because it wasn’t the Pham. Don’t demean my comments it doesn’t put posters in a good light. We all see Netanyahu’s goal even if some prefer to make light of it.

Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
They might want to come out of their tunnels and face the mess they made then eh? Not quite as brave when they are fighting IDF rather than unarmed grandmas in their beds!

Memely · 09/07/2025 16:58

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 16:43

Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe. Unlike Netanyahu who pulled out of the last ceasefire which would have brought the hostages home. Why didn’t he stick to it, because it wasn’t the Pham. Don’t demean my comments it doesn’t put posters in a good light. We all see Netanyahu’s goal even if some prefer to make light of it.

Then why the fuck don't they release the hostages and surrender?

Twiglets1 · 09/07/2025 16:56

Anonimummy · 09/07/2025 16:34

Always the same bullshit - ‘Israel made them do it’, as if apparently well educated Palestinians have no agency at all and nothing is their fault nor are they accountable for it.

@DrPrunesqualer thinks that Hamas cares about Gazan civilians which tells you all you need to know about that poster really,

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks that Hamas cares about Gazan civilians is too deluded to bother debating with.

User37482 · 09/07/2025 16:50

DrPrunesqualer · 09/07/2025 16:43

Hamas wants Gaza back and the population to be safe. Unlike Netanyahu who pulled out of the last ceasefire which would have brought the hostages home. Why didn’t he stick to it, because it wasn’t the Pham. Don’t demean my comments it doesn’t put posters in a good light. We all see Netanyahu’s goal even if some prefer to make light of it.

Hamas want Gazans to be safe!? So they built miles and miles of tunnels and not a single shelter for civilians? They take aid and sell it back to Gazans. They are SHOOTING Gazans who organised anti hamas protests. Are you so ignorant of what is happening in Gaza?

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