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veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 11:00

U.S. President Donald Trump called for Israel to pardon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or cancel his corruption trial, saying the U.S. would save him like it did his country.

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ssd · 26/06/2025 21:22

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 20:17

According to that poster and others who agree with them:

Muslims in Gaza = No genocide!

Muslims in Britain = Risk of genocide!

This is one of the most bat shit things I have read on mumsnet.

Yep, 54500 killed in Gaza, thousands displaced and starving...but no genocide!!

The UK...emmmm...genocide happening!

Good lord.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/06/2025 20:28

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 20:17

According to that poster and others who agree with them:

Muslims in Gaza = No genocide!

Muslims in Britain = Risk of genocide!

This is one of the most bat shit things I have read on mumsnet.

This is one of the most bat shit things I have read on mumsnet.
Yep I was close to checking with mumsnet whether they should do a welfare check

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 20:17

Thisweeksdrama · 26/06/2025 19:58

And unless I've missed the response, I don't think any of the posters who are concerned about the UK genocide risk as flagged by genocide watch has answered my question above.

According to that poster and others who agree with them:

Muslims in Gaza = No genocide!

Muslims in Britain = Risk of genocide!

This is one of the most bat shit things I have read on mumsnet.

veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 20:11

Thisweeksdrama · 26/06/2025 19:58

And unless I've missed the response, I don't think any of the posters who are concerned about the UK genocide risk as flagged by genocide watch has answered my question above.

Because they don’t have one. But hey ho.

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Thisweeksdrama · 26/06/2025 19:58

Thisweeksdrama · 26/06/2025 17:12

Yes I have.

If you consider it to be a reliable source of information. Do you agree with its assessment of the IDF and Israeli government as well as Hamas:

www.genocidewatch.com/country-pages/israel%2Fpalestine

And unless I've missed the response, I don't think any of the posters who are concerned about the UK genocide risk as flagged by genocide watch has answered my question above.

Thisweeksdrama · 26/06/2025 19:55

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 19:40

Yes 😂

Although I must know who @madcatdudette Thinks is trying to genocide me and my family over here.

I don't think we're going to get any more detail on the supposed current high risk of genocide in the UK

ssd · 26/06/2025 19:45

veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 19:42

You don’t seem to know very much about what you are trying to defend. I suggest you should try researching more before you post your views all over an internet forum.

Oh don't stop them, I'm enjoying it 😁, i could do with a laugh.

veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 19:42

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 19:39

Good for you.

You don’t seem to know very much about what you are trying to defend. I suggest you should try researching more before you post your views all over an internet forum.

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ssd · 26/06/2025 19:42

Madcatdudette · 26/06/2025 18:38

It is a topic something the Pro Palestine ilk don’t want to comprehend because it detracts from Gaza 🤷‍♀️

Its a topic people don't want to comprehend as its clearly just another way to get the discussion off Gaza and onto anything else, literally anything else.

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 19:40

veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 19:31

Oh my. Really clutching at straws here.

Yes 😂

Although I must know who @madcatdudette Thinks is trying to genocide me and my family over here.

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 19:39

veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 19:30

As were you. My maintain my stand.

Good for you.

veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 19:31

Madcatdudette · 26/06/2025 19:06

Romani gypsies and British Muslims, I’m sure the Jewish community will be added in due course

Oh my. Really clutching at straws here.

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veiledsentiments · 26/06/2025 19:30

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 18:08

The poster mentioned Putin, Trump and Netanyahu as narcissistic dictators. I asked how a dictator can govern a democracy. What part of that aren't you getting? I really don't care what you presume, either, about me. If you want to mention other threads, would that be the thread on which your posts were deleted?

As were you. My maintain my stand.

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Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 19:22

I should add i am a hijab wearing, visible Muslim.

Whose out there trying to very discreetly genocide us all?

So let me get this straight, you don't think the majority muslim population of Gaza who are being killed in their hundreds on a weekly basis are at a risk of genocide. But the Muslims in England are? Mind boggling 🤯

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 19:19

Madcatdudette · 26/06/2025 19:06

Romani gypsies and British Muslims, I’m sure the Jewish community will be added in due course

Wow! As a British Muslim it's news to me that I am at risk of a genocide here. I think that's a load of rubbish.

Madcatdudette · 26/06/2025 19:06

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 18:49

I know about minority persecution, I'm no stranger to being on the receiving end of racism myself. I am asking you who is at risk of suffering a genocide in England according to @madcatdudette Whom you are agreeing with.

Romani gypsies and British Muslims, I’m sure the Jewish community will be added in due course

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 18:49

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 18:30

It's not about actual genocide, it's about minority groups, in the UK, being under the potential threat of genocide.

I know about minority persecution, I'm no stranger to being on the receiving end of racism myself. I am asking you who is at risk of suffering a genocide in England according to @madcatdudette Whom you are agreeing with.

Iscumaliom · 26/06/2025 18:47

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 18:43

You mean the biased Amnesty International? Yet ICJ found no plausible cause of genocide.

And the biased UN, and the biased MSF and the biased HRW and the biased genocide scholars some of who are Israeli.

Instead of doing thorough research and investigation themselves they should all have just done what posters here do and gone to genocidewatch.com that would have told them what's what.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 26/06/2025 18:45

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 18:24

It's quite ironic, given that posters vehemently fight against racism, which they quite rightly should. However, you're correct in that the obsession with Gaza - only post 7/10 of course - , means those posters are ignoring the oppression on their own doorstep.

If you're talking about Islamophobia, I think you're barking up the wrong tree suggesting that posters concerned about Gaza are oblivious or indifferent to that. As far as I can see from the genocide watch website that is their main concern - and more generalised anti-immigrant sentiment. Again I would imagine the sorts of posters posting about Gaza are very au fait with all that and quite possibly involved in counter-protests etc.

I'm not denying the Gaza situation is getting a lot more attention than other conflict zones but I would still guess that Venn diagram (concerned about Gaza/concerned about Islamophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric) is more of a circle so I'm a bit surprised by your comment.

The poster who keeps linking genocide watch is clearly doing it to ruffle feathers rather than any genuine reason.

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 18:43

rosyvalentine · 26/06/2025 18:39

100%

You mean the biased Amnesty International? Yet ICJ found no plausible cause of genocide.

rosyvalentine · 26/06/2025 18:41

"It is a topic something the Pro Palestine ilk don’t want to comprehend because it detracts from Gaza"

Could you possibly be trying to detract from Gaza yourself @Madcatdudette?

rosyvalentine · 26/06/2025 18:39

Iscumaliom · 26/06/2025 18:34

It's so bizarre people are quoting some website saying look it says the UK is at risk of genocide, it must be true. The UN special committee have found that Israel's warfare methods are consistent with genocide. Human Rights Watch the same. Amnesty the same. MSF(Drs without borders) the same. Top genocide scholars the same. Yet people still aggressively insist that the idea of genocide in Gaza in ludicrous and instead people in the UK should be worried about a genocide there.

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Madcatdudette · 26/06/2025 18:38

Dangermoo · 26/06/2025 18:30

It's not about actual genocide, it's about minority groups, in the UK, being under the potential threat of genocide.

It is a topic something the Pro Palestine ilk don’t want to comprehend because it detracts from Gaza 🤷‍♀️

Madcatdudette · 26/06/2025 18:35

Whatsinanamehey · 26/06/2025 18:10

Lol
How is the UK government more corrupt than Netanyahu who... checks notes... is currently on trial in Israel on corruption charges?

If you read British history you’ll understand that the western leaders are no a par, if not worse than NB.
The only difference is NB doesn’t lie about his intentions. The same can’t be said for Trump and Co

Iscumaliom · 26/06/2025 18:34

It's so bizarre people are quoting some website saying look it says the UK is at risk of genocide, it must be true. The UN special committee have found that Israel's warfare methods are consistent with genocide. Human Rights Watch the same. Amnesty the same. MSF(Drs without borders) the same. Top genocide scholars the same. Yet people still aggressively insist that the idea of genocide in Gaza in ludicrous and instead people in the UK should be worried about a genocide there.