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Qatari airspace closed

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AtomicBlondeRose · 23/06/2025 16:43

I have friends in Qatar who received shelter in place notices from the US embassy earlier, then repeated by the UK Foreign Office. Schools are shut tomorrow and they’ve just closed the airspace. Pretty worried now.

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Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 08:23

Reported by the BBC shortly after 7am this morning, the Israeli government says it has agreed to Donald Trump's ceasefire proposal.

In a statement, it says: "Israel will respond forcefully to any violation of the ceasefire."

Menobaby79 · 24/06/2025 06:01

User2454664 · 23/06/2025 19:36

It was a token retaliation so people are uneasy but there are no casualties. It was very obvious many countries, including USA and UK, were tipped off. Started yesterday with many airlines abruptly cancelling flights to Dubai. It's too much of a risk for them to have civilian deaths, particularly from the wealthy Gulf states.

I really hope you're right 🙏

Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 06:01

Iran’s semi official news agency SNN has reported that Iran fired their last missiles before the ceasefire came into effect.

Quacking4it · 24/06/2025 05:38

Well that went well.

Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 05:29

Truce apparently came into effect at 5am UK time.

Twiglets1 · 24/06/2025 05:20

Weepixie · 24/06/2025 02:46

It was obvious what was going on, not that I’m an ex-RAF intelligence officer. I’m just a long in the tooth granny who’s lived in this part of the world for almost 50 years and has a very good feel for the place.

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And your hunch proved to be correct.

The Iran regime can do a bit of face-saving by having attacked an American military base (not really). It has been a way for them to exit the war & Qatar helped broker the deal apparently.

It looks like a 12 hour ceasefire will lead to a permanent ceasefire and the 12 day war is (hopefully!) over.

Weepixie · 24/06/2025 02:46

IToldYouSoSee · 23/06/2025 21:20

No such thing as the element of surprise these days. So much imagery and Intel in various arenas. We would know when a nuke was launched. Whether we could shoot it down however.

Ex-RAF Intelligence

It was obvious what was going on, not that I’m an ex-RAF intelligence officer. I’m just a long in the tooth granny who’s lived in this part of the world for almost 50 years and has a very good feel for the place.

katem98 · 24/06/2025 00:27

"US President Donald Trump has announced a "complete and total" ceasefire between Israel and Iran on social media.
Trump says the ceasefire will begin "in approximately six hours from now" after each country has "wound down" their military operations.
Trump's announcement contains a periodic unravelling of hostilities but says that "upon the 24th hour" the war will officially end.
Israel and Iran are yet to confirm a ceasefire has been reached."

Gattopardo · 23/06/2025 23:06

@HellsBalls I sincerely hope you’re right. I think logically you are 100% right. But then we are dealing with deranged narcissist males here, and that gives me a bit of pause.

Plus, we do not know what Iran has done with the nuclear material. Another strategic possibility is retreat, re-group, cut the nuclear inspectors out of the picture, and get busy enriching your uranium for the longer view.

Stripes56 · 23/06/2025 22:34

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:18

@Whatsinanamehey Personally I think I'd be more concerned if he didn't tone the attack down. He can't really retaliate now with more force after saying the response was weak and have support from others.

its a combination of messages - acceptance Iran had attempted to bomb U.S. bases, wasn’t anything to really trouble the U.S., thank you for warning us, and lastly - the most promising - a message to Israel to stop bombing its neighbours and turn to diplomacy:

"Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same," he says."

Stripes56 · 23/06/2025 22:23

Whatsinanamehey · 23/06/2025 18:13

I wonder if Qatar were informed beforehand.

I was thinking this - to minimise casualties because Iran don’t want to/ not in a position to escalate with American casualties

countingthedays945 · 23/06/2025 21:32

This is what happens when a country of poorly educated citizens elect an egotistical narcissist!

IToldYouSoSee · 23/06/2025 21:20

Weepixie · 23/06/2025 20:11

Because this has all been very carefully orchestrated.

No such thing as the element of surprise these days. So much imagery and Intel in various arenas. We would know when a nuke was launched. Whether we could shoot it down however.

Ex-RAF Intelligence

EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 21:19

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:09

@EasternStandard I'd like to think he's used the term 'weak' to justify a non-response?

@katem98yes you may be right. As I read it I thought oh no to ok good.

But the pp on it being weak in reality is fair. I just don’t want any excuses for Iran to say we’ll do more.

Whatsinanamehey · 23/06/2025 21:18

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:18

@Whatsinanamehey Personally I think I'd be more concerned if he didn't tone the attack down. He can't really retaliate now with more force after saying the response was weak and have support from others.

That's true aswell.

Whatsinanamehey · 23/06/2025 21:18

ninjahamster · 23/06/2025 21:16

Well it was weak really, they knew the missiles would be intercepted and just wanted to save face.

Yes it was weak, for reasons explained by others above. Trump should have taken the win diplomatically to end further escalation. What purpose could he have for taunting their response?

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:18

@Whatsinanamehey Personally I think I'd be more concerned if he didn't tone the attack down. He can't really retaliate now with more force after saying the response was weak and have support from others.

Whatsinanamehey · 23/06/2025 21:16

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:09

@EasternStandard I'd like to think he's used the term 'weak' to justify a non-response?

It does sound very provocative. Especially saying they were given advanced notice is just goading, since the Iranians were obviously not given any notice. It's almost taunting that is the best you have.

ninjahamster · 23/06/2025 21:16

Well it was weak really, they knew the missiles would be intercepted and just wanted to save face.

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:09

@EasternStandard I'd like to think he's used the term 'weak' to justify a non-response?

EasternStandard · 23/06/2025 21:08

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:06

"Trump has just posted on social media, saying Iran's response was "very weak". He thanks them for "giving us early notice".
"Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered," the US president says on Truth Social.
He says 14 missiles were fired by Iran, 13 of which were "knocked down" and another headed in a "nonthreatening direction".
No Americans were harmed and "hardly any damage was done", he says. No Qataris were killed or wounded, Trump says.
"Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their 'system,' and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice," he says.
"Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same," he says."

Hope that’s it then. ‘Very weak’ is a bit provocative but at least it sounds non retaliatory

ChimneyPot · 23/06/2025 21:07

roses2 · 23/06/2025 20:52

Under Biden though not the orange man. The orange man doesn't understand when to stop

No it was in Trumps first term and he played it down.

katem98 · 23/06/2025 21:06

"Trump has just posted on social media, saying Iran's response was "very weak". He thanks them for "giving us early notice".
"Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered," the US president says on Truth Social.
He says 14 missiles were fired by Iran, 13 of which were "knocked down" and another headed in a "nonthreatening direction".
No Americans were harmed and "hardly any damage was done", he says. No Qataris were killed or wounded, Trump says.
"Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their 'system,' and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice," he says.
"Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same," he says."

Mrfoxesfavouritesocks · 23/06/2025 21:05

ffs trump calling them weak in his response. Everything else was hopeful but calling it a weak retaliation is surely going to ruffle some feathers!

roses2 · 23/06/2025 20:52

Tatemoderndrawyourown · 23/06/2025 20:24

The Iranians have already done it before. Told the Americans where they would bomb so they both could save face. Whether this time ends in the same way who knows.

Under Biden though not the orange man. The orange man doesn't understand when to stop

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