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Why is Iran bombing airports, care facilities and univerosties?

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mids2019 · 22/06/2025 07:50

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-22-2025/

Surely Iranian strike targets in Israel are simply acts of state terrorism now and the international community should highlight this. It seems like Iran is lashing out in the hope of instilling fear into the Israeli population to try and break the Israeli people. It won't work.

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Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 14:39

Clocloxx · 22/06/2025 14:32

Certainly not a zoinest movement, zionism is different to Judaism, Jewish and Muslim people lived happily side by side untill the zoinest movement came in roughly around 1948 when the Israeli state was created.

You must be taking the piss.

Clocloxx · 22/06/2025 14:32

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 14:10

Zionists control their own state? Who would you have control it?

Certainly not a zoinest movement, zionism is different to Judaism, Jewish and Muslim people lived happily side by side untill the zoinest movement came in roughly around 1948 when the Israeli state was created.

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 14:10

Clocloxx · 22/06/2025 11:33

Well Israel has been bombing gaza, Lebanon, Syria and Iran for months now all targeting Civilian instructures obviously gaza been the worst I think it's something like 70% of gaza is flattened 94% of hospitals bombed I can't bear to think about how many bodies are still under the rubble in gaza. But Israel has been bombing Iran for quite some time now, what Iran is doing is complete self defense against Israel. Israel has shown the world they are the terrorists and there will never be peace in the middle east as long as zoinest control Israel

Zionists control their own state? Who would you have control it?

ButterBites · 22/06/2025 13:44

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 22/06/2025 09:27

To all of you who respond ‘but Gaza’, Isreal is a sovereign state Gaza terribly sadly for its people is run by a terrorist organisation who hide behind the civilian population. Iran and its proxies publicly vow to wipe Isreal and her people from the face of the earth, Isreal has no such aim. Isreal is the only democracy in the Middle East and is tiny in comparison to all the aggressors who surround her. Isreal targets military targets. Hamas deliberately put their civilian population in the way and are responsible for the harm that comes to them. Iran has targeted hospitals for no other reason than to inflict suffering on the civilian population and has completely destroyed Isreal’s cancer research centre. These are acts of terrorism. If you support acts of terrorism you should be imprisoned.

Hamas deliberately put their civilian population in the way and are responsible for the harm that comes to them

Where are the Palestinians supposed to go?

TerribleTimingReally · 22/06/2025 12:50

The OP knew what she was doing starting this. I have seen her start these kinds of threads before.

Of course it’s hypocritical with huge dose of irony.

Anyway, maybe Israel’s forces are hiding in the hospitals, Iran has a right to defend itself, Israel started this by attacking Iran etc etc. it’s basically the previous arguments against Hamas in reverse.

Power-hungry men killing innocents, and deluded supporters of both sides sanctioning atrocity upon atrocity.

GretaGreen · 22/06/2025 12:44

Israel should ask Iran to investigate themselves.

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 12:31

Switcher · 22/06/2025 12:30

These threads always go the same way OP. No point.

thats the fault of other people not being able to debate properly .

Switcher · 22/06/2025 12:30

These threads always go the same way OP. No point.

ssd · 22/06/2025 12:29

Its a wide known fact it is a genocide. Acknowledged by other leaders and countries.
Only someone that calls Netanyahu a hero would say otherwise.

HellsBalls · 22/06/2025 12:23

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 11:41

What's Israels reason then for trying to kill as many Palestinians as possible. Are they genocidal madmen too?

Spoiler the answer isn't always "but Hamas"

We’ve all just witnessed just how much destruction Israel can inflict when it wants to.
If it had wanted to kill as many Palestinians as possible, it would have used those tactics in Gaza.
It hasn’t.
There is no genocide.

Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 12:19

distilled summary of the main differences:

Sovereignty & Governance:

  • Israel: A recognized, democratically elected sovereign state with formal accountability and legal oversight.
  • Iran (and its proxies): Acts through affiliated groups with less transparency and formal governance structures.
Objectives & Justifications:
  • Israel: Claims its actions are defensive measures aimed at protecting its citizens from terrorism.
  • Iran (and its proxies): Often seen as pursuing broader ideological goals or regional influence that go beyond simple defense.
Tactics & Rules of Engagement:
  • Israel: States that it targets military infrastructure, even though the reality is fiercely debated regarding civilian impact.
  • Iran (and its proxies): Their operations are frequently portrayed as more indiscriminate, with actions that lead to higher civilian risks.
International Legitimacy:
  • Israel: Operates within a framework of international law and diplomacy, subject to global scrutiny as a recognized state.
  • Iran (and its proxies): Their methods are more frequently classified as acts of terrorism due to a lack of formal diplomatic accountability.
Swirlythingy2025 · 22/06/2025 12:05

IToldYouSoSee · 22/06/2025 11:26

People were just in their houses and hospitals. Using ‘Hamas put them there’ is a pathetic excuse to justify genocide. Israel has no high ground, having stooped so much lower than the terrorists. Palestinians should surrender? Or get completely wiped off the face of the earth? Give up their home?

Israel have caused this, all of this. And sorry to say the west have allowed it.

People often rail against Western intervention, citing imperialism and double standards. what exactly is the alternative? Should the West step back entirely, allow every regional power to escalate unchecked, and then shake hands with whoever’s left standing after the dust settles?

PurpleChrayn · 22/06/2025 11:59

If you can’t see a difference between Israel’s actions in Gaza and Iran’s actions in Israel, you are staggeringly dense.

Flossflower · 22/06/2025 11:53

Oh the irony!

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 11:41

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2025 11:36

Be abuse they’re genocidal madmen who want to kill as many Jews as possible

What's Israels reason then for trying to kill as many Palestinians as possible. Are they genocidal madmen too?

Spoiler the answer isn't always "but Hamas"

CopperWhite · 22/06/2025 11:39

Presumably for the same reason that Israel does it. ‘They have a right to defend themselves’.

HermioneWeasley · 22/06/2025 11:36

Be abuse they’re genocidal madmen who want to kill as many Jews as possible

Clocloxx · 22/06/2025 11:36

mids2019 · 22/06/2025 08:22

Why do people keep bringing Gaza into a discussion about a conflict between two sovereign states? Can any attack by the Iranians be justified by but.....but.....Gaza.

You can decouple the two conflicts and actually have concern like Keir Starmer has about the proximity of Iran developing a nuclear weapon.
And any way October 7th was the start of this sorry mess.

October 7th ? Gosh you're one of them... have a look at The Nakba 1948 try and learn something

Clocloxx · 22/06/2025 11:33

Well Israel has been bombing gaza, Lebanon, Syria and Iran for months now all targeting Civilian instructures obviously gaza been the worst I think it's something like 70% of gaza is flattened 94% of hospitals bombed I can't bear to think about how many bodies are still under the rubble in gaza. But Israel has been bombing Iran for quite some time now, what Iran is doing is complete self defense against Israel. Israel has shown the world they are the terrorists and there will never be peace in the middle east as long as zoinest control Israel

IToldYouSoSee · 22/06/2025 11:26

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 22/06/2025 09:27

To all of you who respond ‘but Gaza’, Isreal is a sovereign state Gaza terribly sadly for its people is run by a terrorist organisation who hide behind the civilian population. Iran and its proxies publicly vow to wipe Isreal and her people from the face of the earth, Isreal has no such aim. Isreal is the only democracy in the Middle East and is tiny in comparison to all the aggressors who surround her. Isreal targets military targets. Hamas deliberately put their civilian population in the way and are responsible for the harm that comes to them. Iran has targeted hospitals for no other reason than to inflict suffering on the civilian population and has completely destroyed Isreal’s cancer research centre. These are acts of terrorism. If you support acts of terrorism you should be imprisoned.

People were just in their houses and hospitals. Using ‘Hamas put them there’ is a pathetic excuse to justify genocide. Israel has no high ground, having stooped so much lower than the terrorists. Palestinians should surrender? Or get completely wiped off the face of the earth? Give up their home?

Israel have caused this, all of this. And sorry to say the west have allowed it.

Mercurial123 · 22/06/2025 11:19

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 22/06/2025 09:27

To all of you who respond ‘but Gaza’, Isreal is a sovereign state Gaza terribly sadly for its people is run by a terrorist organisation who hide behind the civilian population. Iran and its proxies publicly vow to wipe Isreal and her people from the face of the earth, Isreal has no such aim. Isreal is the only democracy in the Middle East and is tiny in comparison to all the aggressors who surround her. Isreal targets military targets. Hamas deliberately put their civilian population in the way and are responsible for the harm that comes to them. Iran has targeted hospitals for no other reason than to inflict suffering on the civilian population and has completely destroyed Isreal’s cancer research centre. These are acts of terrorism. If you support acts of terrorism you should be imprisoned.

Maybe learn to spell Israel first?

PowerStruggles · 22/06/2025 10:03

I’m not going in to the morale debate about this particular conflict.

it is strategically vital to take out airports for obvious reasons and they have been the first place targeted in many conflicts. Plus Universities are not just centres to teach undergraduates, that’s actually the very least of it. Universities research labs and minds are what they are trying to destroy. Destroying the intelligentsia of countries is a specific way of destroying knowledge and research and original thought. If you take out hospitals and care facilities again it’s going to upset people beyond measure as it does seem the ultimate act of savagery.

So in any conflict those are always targets, there are no genuine morales in conflict regardless of what The Geneva Convention lays out.

Mercurial123 · 22/06/2025 09:35

Just looking at the OP's title I knew exactly who posted this. They are just so one dimensional.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 22/06/2025 09:27

To all of you who respond ‘but Gaza’, Isreal is a sovereign state Gaza terribly sadly for its people is run by a terrorist organisation who hide behind the civilian population. Iran and its proxies publicly vow to wipe Isreal and her people from the face of the earth, Isreal has no such aim. Isreal is the only democracy in the Middle East and is tiny in comparison to all the aggressors who surround her. Isreal targets military targets. Hamas deliberately put their civilian population in the way and are responsible for the harm that comes to them. Iran has targeted hospitals for no other reason than to inflict suffering on the civilian population and has completely destroyed Isreal’s cancer research centre. These are acts of terrorism. If you support acts of terrorism you should be imprisoned.

ssd · 22/06/2025 08:55

@Martymcfly24, i think desperation is kicking in

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