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Twiglets1 · 22/06/2025 08:18

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 07:53

You do know that Iran has many more than the 3 Nuclear sites targeted? That if the sites had been destroyed we would be seeing an increase in radiation? Thankfully the uranium was moved saving 10s of thousands of lives.

Still waiting but it's looking like bravado. Think back to America having to negotiate with the Houthis for a ceasefire in the Red Sea recently (after losing 2 F18 planes due to having to quickly manoeuvre to avoid incoming rockets and several drones).

Will wait and see, but Trump’s base is currently extremely mad at him and are noting the accounts that are celebrating.

Yes I do know there were more than 3 but Fordow was the main one.

I think you’re just swallowing Iranian propaganda if you believe the US hasn’t obliterated Fordor.

Looking like bravado .. I don’t think so. I think the bombing was highly successful from the US point of view.

countrygirl99 · 22/06/2025 07:54

Or has it. Has it just made any future Iranian regime think that what it needs is to get a nuclear capacity as quickly as possible to prevent attacks. Who knows

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 07:53

Twiglets1 · 22/06/2025 07:43

I think it’s a bit of a moot point now whether Iran choose to withdraw from the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty or not.

US has destroyed their nuclear capability.

You do know that Iran has many more than the 3 Nuclear sites targeted? That if the sites had been destroyed we would be seeing an increase in radiation? Thankfully the uranium was moved saving 10s of thousands of lives.

Still waiting but it's looking like bravado. Think back to America having to negotiate with the Houthis for a ceasefire in the Red Sea recently (after losing 2 F18 planes due to having to quickly manoeuvre to avoid incoming rockets and several drones).

Will wait and see, but Trump’s base is currently extremely mad at him and are noting the accounts that are celebrating.

Twiglets1 · 22/06/2025 07:43

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 07:38

Agree, Iran's foreign secretary was in Europe yesterday (20th June) to meet with the UK, French and other European representatives to discuss negotiations. That was a concession by Iran who have mainly refused to talk to America.

Ironically, UK MP David Lammy said after the meeting that "Iran could avoid a US strike".

All Trump has done is likely guarantee Iran will withdraw from the Nuclear Non proliferation Treaty as early as Monday. Also many other countries will begin developing or obtain nukes.

So far Iran has targeted Israel in it's response and the damage is extensive.

I think it’s a bit of a moot point now whether Iran choose to withdraw from the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty or not.

US has destroyed their nuclear capability.

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 07:38

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 22/06/2025 04:35

I hope so, too. This is going to affect future negotiations with the US forever, though. Noone is going to trust America again after this. Their officials have lied far to many times and far too many negotiations have been proven to be fake. Geez, Trump is such a bastard!

Agree, Iran's foreign secretary was in Europe yesterday (20th June) to meet with the UK, French and other European representatives to discuss negotiations. That was a concession by Iran who have mainly refused to talk to America.

Ironically, UK MP David Lammy said after the meeting that "Iran could avoid a US strike".

All Trump has done is likely guarantee Iran will withdraw from the Nuclear Non proliferation Treaty as early as Monday. Also many other countries will begin developing or obtain nukes.

So far Iran has targeted Israel in it's response and the damage is extensive.

PaxAeterna · 22/06/2025 07:34

It’s all very worrying and I’m struggling to see a best case scenario. Trump seems to be backing the Iranians into a corner with the speech too. Surely a better approach to resolving this with diplomacy and negotiation is to allow everyone to save face.

Also a worry that he bombed Iran when the majority of the US population was against it.

Twiglets1 · 22/06/2025 06:36

Shocking news to wake up to.

I thought they were still in the process of trying to negotiate some kind of peaceful resolution. Wonder what all the various world leaders will have to say about this. It probably will have taken many of them by surprise too, including Starmer.

Twiglets1 · 22/06/2025 06:31

The Telegraph: Donald Trump has threatened to launch further strikes on Iran if it does not immediately make peace.

“Future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier,” the US president said in an address to the nation following the US attack on three of the country’s nuclear sites.

He added: “There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran, far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days. Remember there are many targets left.”

Earlier, Mr Trump said the US had attacked Iran’s enrichment sites at Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan.

He called the attacks a “spectacular success” and said Iran’s nuclear programme had been “completely and totally obliterated”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/06/22/us-strikes-iran-latest-updates/

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 22/06/2025 04:35

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 02:00

Let's hope that it was just a symbolic strike by Trump 🤞 then the response to America will be limited.

I hope so, too. This is going to affect future negotiations with the US forever, though. Noone is going to trust America again after this. Their officials have lied far to many times and far too many negotiations have been proven to be fake. Geez, Trump is such a bastard!

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 02:44

I wonder just how much safer the people of Israel are feeling right now.

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BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 02:40

Clutteredmind · 22/06/2025 02:28

Will this effect the uk

Looks like Trump avoided using allies assets, so no risk right now. Targets would not be civilians only military .

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 02:40

Clutteredmind · 22/06/2025 02:28

Will this effect the uk

If Article 5 of Nato is triggered, yes
We will have No choice

BUT

Very unlikely, almost impossible that the UK will be hit
We will lose soldiers though

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 02:38

There are multiple threads about this

Shame they cant all be merged into one

Clutteredmind · 22/06/2025 02:28

Will this effect the uk

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 02:27

JaneJeffer · 22/06/2025 02:24

The US is a threat to world peace

The United States is 249 years old, having declared its independence in 1776. It has been engaged in military conflicts for approximately 227 years since then. This means the U.S. has been at war for more than 92% of its existence

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 02:25

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 02:19

Apparently Fordow got 6 bunker bombs, and another site got Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from submarines, according to a US reporter.

Edited: 30 tomahawk from submarines to engage the Iranian Air defences and allow the B-52s to strike.

JaneJeffer · 22/06/2025 02:24

The US is a threat to world peace

TheMel · 22/06/2025 02:21

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 01:58

I've had this strange feeling since Ukraine attacked Russia's nuclear capable planes a few weeks ago (a move that entitled Putin to respond with nukes).

Along with the plausible genocide in Gaza it's like the Overton window on what’s acceptable has shifted perilously and there are some bastards willing to get us into WW3 by any means.

Iran's main news channel just reported that all 3 nuclear sites were cleared months ago, so small mercies.

Depending on the damage Iran will have to respond as it's an act of war. It's allies in Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen are on standby but won't move unless Iran is in mortal danger.

Are you seriously suggesting a nuclear Iran isn't a threat to world peace?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 02:19

Apparently Fordow got 6 bunker bombs, and another site got Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from submarines, according to a US reporter.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 02:02

It's going to get really messy I think.

Lookner is reporting that in Israel Home front command are changing civil defence to "essential activity only" - they're basically going into lickdown.

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BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 02:01

A 245 year old country messing with a 5000 year old civilization that beat Alexander the great.......

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 02:00

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:51

Poor bastards. Sitting ducks. And there's going to be significant civilian casualties most likely.

Why why why?

Let's hope that it was just a symbolic strike by Trump 🤞 then the response to America will be limited.

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 01:58

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:49

I'm just about recovering my powers of speech, and am trying not to shit myself, tbh. TMI but there we are.

I was watching a bit of Ghost Theory for light relief, and switched back to Agenda Free TV at the exact moment our boy Lookner was shouting "breaking news".

Oh boy.

Also started a thread on AIBU and someone has referred to a Biblical prophecy about Elams Bow. Please tell me that this whole thing isn't really being driven by religious nutters on all sides?

How are Iran's "allies" going to react is my big worry, followed by the likely surge in terrorism.

Fuck fuck fuck.

I've had this strange feeling since Ukraine attacked Russia's nuclear capable planes a few weeks ago (a move that entitled Putin to respond with nukes).

Along with the plausible genocide in Gaza it's like the Overton window on what’s acceptable has shifted perilously and there are some bastards willing to get us into WW3 by any means.

Iran's main news channel just reported that all 3 nuclear sites were cleared months ago, so small mercies.

Depending on the damage Iran will have to respond as it's an act of war. It's allies in Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen are on standby but won't move unless Iran is in mortal danger.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:51

BelleHathor · 22/06/2025 01:46

US bases in the region on high alert:
https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1936585741456244801

US military now briefing troops that its strike on Iran "will likely result in counterstrikes on US bases and facilities" in the Middle East, and "likely activate Iran and other foreign terrorist organizations cells abroad including the US to conduct strikes against US persons and facilities," according to briefing I obtained

Poor bastards. Sitting ducks. And there's going to be significant civilian casualties most likely.

Why why why?

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