Protesters in London - stop bombing Iran?????

Enormous Damage is very different to Obliterated. It’s impossible to know without inspection.

Would the UN nuclear watchdog say it?

What is it with this incessant need to believe what oppressive regimes say? Do I take the word of those who believe I'm a second class citizen, just for being a woman? Do I heck.

Well he would, wouldn’t he?!

(Daniella- autocorrect)

Danielle Weiss.

Hegseth isn't the most reliable but OTOH anyone asserting "cyber" 🙄was used to turn off Iranian air defence for ten hours, but that the Iranians somehow got their Air Defence system "back up and running" probably isn't the most most reliable source either.

You are clutching at straws there @Twiglets1 , looking to Pete Hegseth for facts. Do you believe what Trump's foot soldiers say?!?

Even the US intelligence services admit there was no damage to the Iranian nuclear program.

No they don't.

The Pentagon briefing earlier was the most detailed assessment so far from the US government on the strikes.
Hegseth said Iran's nuclear capabilities had been "obliterated" and quoted a few different organisations to back this up - including the UN nuclear watchdog who said the strikes caused "enormous damage" to Iran's nuclear sites, and Iran's foreign minister saying they'd been "badly damaged".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy7nx2180xdt

"There's a huge anount of misinformation.."

Yep, there certainly is....

There’s a huge amount of misinformation about this. Israel and the US launched a cyber attack on Iranian air defences which succeeded in disabling the system for around ten hours. Once it was back up and running all attacks were carried out using long range weapons from Iranian airspace.
Israel got absolutely hammered during this 12 day war which is why they’ve clamped down so hard on reporting of damage, even imprisoning people for social media posts, the damage is estimated at acting half a trillion dollars.
Even the US intelligence services admit there was no damage to the Iranian nuclear program. The whole thing was a shit show from start to finish

Across different countries? Genocidal maniac? Hyperbolic language just makes a mockery of reasoned debate.

Either way It’s terrible. I particularly admire women’s rights defenders in Iran, so many women have been so very brave.

Actually I need to edit that - I am not certain it was Iran who said that, I saw it reported on an Indian news channel and assumed the information had come from Iran.

Bombing isn't doing anyone a favour, ever. Have a look at the youtube videos of Iran, normal people videoing normal people walking around streets (most women not veiled incidentally) - I really don't think any of them wanted to be bombed. Regime change is destabilising. If you want social change around specific things, peaceful negotiating is going to be a lot more effective.

Iran said that this was 700 israeli/mossad spies having been detained, incidentally.

Then that shows how idiotic bigots are. To target Jews through something that is out of their control, the same way Muslims are targeted for terrorist attacks.

From the news clips I have seen, the protesters are saying that the west has been interfering in Iran for the purpose of trade/oil/at the request of the Israelis since the 1970s, when a coup was organised and a pro-west leader was put in power in Iran, and the playbook is similar to that applying to Iraq and Libya, I think.

There are also protesters against what is going on in Gaza. In relation to this and in relation to trying to completely stabilise the region, I think (and I have said this on the other thread) the ONLY thing we should all be concentrating on now is getting a fair and equal and enduring two state solution agreed, because this is the ONLY thing which will make the problems go away, and it could quite possibly make ALL the problems go away.

One of the problems I see in relation to this is that some will be against this in Israel (it appears to have almost total support amongst the Arab world now which means pressure would be brought on Hamas and Hezbollah if negotiations proceeded in good faith) and so it is here that the influence of the US could be incredibly helpful - agreeing this genuinely really could completely change the face of the middle east in a really, really positive way, creating enduring peace.

I'm afraid I think it is true too. I think BN's actions have made Israel far more vulnerable and will have exacerbated existing anti semitism.

True though

Seriously? Well right now Iran is cracking down on anyone who speaks out about the regime.

https://iranhumanrights.org/2025/06/iran-launches-sweeping-crackdown-hundreds-detained-executions-underway/

What a charming thing to say.

It is indeed real. And that Benjamin is going to ensure it grows exponentially.
By the time he's done terrorising the ME, Antisemitism may have risen to the same proportions as Islamaphobia.