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Protesters in London - stop bombing Iran?????

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mids2019 · 21/06/2025 15:27

Is this the same Iran was enriching uranium for the express purpose of building a nuclear bomb?

Is this the same Iran that was plotting a terrorist attack on a British base in Cyprus?

Is this the same Iran that send missiles against hospitals?

The same Iran which actually has a lot going people in Iran hoping the bombing of military facilities can somehow dethrone a hated Islamist regime?

Wtaf?

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thethingthatshouldnotbee · 27/06/2025 12:38

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You think thr Israeli government are posting on Mumsnet?

SunDash · 27/06/2025 12:28

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Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 12:25

izthiszeend · 27/06/2025 12:22

I hope all find it abhorrent, but I’m no longer sure. It’s good if we have that agreement.

I believe IDF and Israeli government are not puppets, they have choice. If they are not responsible for their actions, they should not be anywhere close to power.

That’s a strange comment - who suggested the Israeli government didn’t have power?

Of course they are responsible for their actions.

So are Hamas responsible for their actions and they chose to unleash hell on October 7th 2023 that is still ongoing.

izthiszeend · 27/06/2025 12:22

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 11:27

I think we all find these things abhorrent.

It’s who we blame for them that differs.

Some of us mainly blame Hamas, others mainly blame the Israeli government & IDF.

I hope all find it abhorrent, but I’m no longer sure. It’s good if we have that agreement.

I believe IDF and Israeli government are not puppets, they have choice. If they are not responsible for their actions, they should not be anywhere close to power.

quantumbutterfly · 27/06/2025 11:36

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 11:31

It’s more hassle working for one! None of the benefits, either.

Lead when I was younger. Not now, do my own thing. Coming close to giving up on news and current affairs tbh. because there’s nothing I can do to influence anything and, selfish though I acknowledge it is, I’d like to avoid upset and stress for whatever life we have left.

Not going to rage against the dying of the light?

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 11:31

quantumbutterfly · 27/06/2025 11:25

But sadly someone needs to do it and most people aren't prepared to deal with the hassle.

Would you rather lead, or be led?

It’s more hassle working for one! None of the benefits, either.

Lead when I was younger. Not now, do my own thing. Coming close to giving up on news and current affairs tbh. because there’s nothing I can do to influence anything and, selfish though I acknowledge it is, I’d like to avoid upset and stress for whatever life we have left.

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 11:27

izthiszeend · 27/06/2025 10:23

What about women being bombed, starved or helplessly watching their babies starve to death?
Do you find those regimes abhorrent too?
I do.

I think we all find these things abhorrent.

It’s who we blame for them that differs.

Some of us mainly blame Hamas, others mainly blame the Israeli government & IDF.

quantumbutterfly · 27/06/2025 11:25

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 11:18

🤣

Having worked for an MP in Westminster, I’m afraid I’m probably a bit cynical about the breed in general.

No one who thinks they should be in charge should be allowed anywhere near power!

But sadly someone needs to do it and most people aren't prepared to deal with the hassle.

Would you rather lead, or be led?

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 11:24

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:13

I find their views abhorrent. I don’t lend my support to people with abhorrent views, regardless of their sex.

I was specifically replying to Twiglets’ comment that women are able to compromise. Some are most demonstrably not.

Yes but I’m speaking generally. Of course there are some awful women.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 11:18

quantumbutterfly · 27/06/2025 11:15

Any that you like?

🤣

Having worked for an MP in Westminster, I’m afraid I’m probably a bit cynical about the breed in general.

No one who thinks they should be in charge should be allowed anywhere near power!

quantumbutterfly · 27/06/2025 11:15

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:35

And yep, Emily Thornberry. Gets right on my wick. Not in a position of international power, though.

Any that you like?

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:36

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 10:19

How coincidental that all those women are Tories. What I find ahorrent is women being executed on made up adultery charges. I don't think I will be placing the Ayatollah at the top of my sources of trust.

Neither will I. Or Netanyahu. Both nutters.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:35

And yep, Emily Thornberry. Gets right on my wick. Not in a position of international power, though.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:33

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 10:19

How coincidental that all those women are Tories. What I find ahorrent is women being executed on made up adultery charges. I don't think I will be placing the Ayatollah at the top of my sources of trust.

Angela Rayner, Rachel Reeves ….

quantumbutterfly · 27/06/2025 10:23

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:13

I find their views abhorrent. I don’t lend my support to people with abhorrent views, regardless of their sex.

I was specifically replying to Twiglets’ comment that women are able to compromise. Some are most demonstrably not.

Not going to agree with everyone on everything of course. I remember Gordon Brown getting caught labelling one of his core voters a bigot rather than listening to her concerns and addressing them. He got caught, as did Emily Thornberry. Just because they don't say stuff out loud, doesn't mean they're not thinking it.

izthiszeend · 27/06/2025 10:23

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 10:19

How coincidental that all those women are Tories. What I find ahorrent is women being executed on made up adultery charges. I don't think I will be placing the Ayatollah at the top of my sources of trust.

What about women being bombed, starved or helplessly watching their babies starve to death?
Do you find those regimes abhorrent too?
I do.

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 10:19

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:13

I find their views abhorrent. I don’t lend my support to people with abhorrent views, regardless of their sex.

I was specifically replying to Twiglets’ comment that women are able to compromise. Some are most demonstrably not.

How coincidental that all those women are Tories. What I find ahorrent is women being executed on made up adultery charges. I don't think I will be placing the Ayatollah at the top of my sources of trust.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 10:13

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 10:09

What about them? I prefer to lend solidarity to strong women, who have to navigate in a man's world. They have enough infighting from men.

I find their views abhorrent. I don’t lend my support to people with abhorrent views, regardless of their sex.

I was specifically replying to Twiglets’ comment that women are able to compromise. Some are most demonstrably not.

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 10:09

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 09:59

Margaret Thatcher, Priti Patel, Suella Braverman, Liz Truss ….. 😁

What about them? I prefer to lend solidarity to strong women, who have to navigate in a man's world. They have enough infighting from men.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 09:59

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 09:55

She’s just one (horrible) woman though.

I agree with @LottieLovehandle that overall the world would be better if women were in charge.

Most of us are used to making compromises- these narcissistic male leaders aren’t!

Margaret Thatcher, Priti Patel, Suella Braverman, Liz Truss ….. 😁

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 09:57

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 09:51

I do agree the damage is likely to be somewhere between enormous damage and obliteration.

What is very unlikely is “no damage” which is what the post I was replying to said.

Fair enough.

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 09:55

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 09:25

Danielle Weiss.

She’s just one (horrible) woman though.

I agree with @LottieLovehandle that overall the world would be better if women were in charge.

Most of us are used to making compromises- these narcissistic male leaders aren’t!

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 09:52

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 09:49

Exactly… talk about unreliable narrators.

Their ideology is abhorrent to me and should be to any Westerner so no, I don’t tend to believe the rubbish they spout.

Like the Ayatollah now saying Iran gave the US a slap or some such rubbish.

I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them but I'm glad I am on that side of the fence. Forewarned is forearmed. Oh, but of course, Iran wants nukes for "peaceful" reasons!

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 09:51

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/06/2025 09:47

Enormous Damage is very different to Obliterated. It’s impossible to know without inspection.

I do agree the damage is likely to be somewhere between enormous damage and obliteration.

What is very unlikely is “no damage” which is what the post I was replying to said.

Twiglets1 · 27/06/2025 09:49

Dangermoo · 27/06/2025 09:39

What is it with this incessant need to believe what oppressive regimes say? Do I take the word of those who believe I'm a second class citizen, just for being a woman? Do I heck.

Exactly… talk about unreliable narrators.

Their ideology is abhorrent to me and should be to any Westerner so no, I don’t tend to believe the rubbish they spout.

Like the Ayatollah now saying Iran gave the US a slap or some such rubbish.

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