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Protesters in London - stop bombing Iran?????

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mids2019 · 21/06/2025 15:27

Is this the same Iran was enriching uranium for the express purpose of building a nuclear bomb?

Is this the same Iran that was plotting a terrorist attack on a British base in Cyprus?

Is this the same Iran that send missiles against hospitals?

The same Iran which actually has a lot going people in Iran hoping the bombing of military facilities can somehow dethrone a hated Islamist regime?

Wtaf?

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AnnaBalfour · 22/06/2025 09:31

The Netanyahu apologists are extremists too as evidenced on this thread, completely proving my point beautifully 😁

anti genocide = pro hamas, anti Semitic lazy argument over and over and over…

”but Hamas!” an excuse for brutal starvation and bombing of over 50,000 innocent women and children

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 22/06/2025 09:30

Jumpupjumphigh · 21/06/2025 15:34

Is this the same Iran was enriching uranium for the express purpose of building a nuclear bomb?

No, that was Israel (or Britain, or the USA...)

Is this the same Iran that was plotting a terrorist attack on a British base in Cyprus?

Possibly

Is this the same Iran that send missiles against hospitals?

No, that's also Israel (if you do mean "hospitals" plural).

@Jumpupjumphigh , deluded.

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 09:27

Portakalkedi · 22/06/2025 09:21

When I see the various protests about what's going on re the Middle East, it does stand out that nobody is protesting against Hamas/Palestine, who provoked this war in the first place, and who could end it by giving up their hostages. Where are all the protestors/minor celebrities spouting opinions about this?

Maybe because the protesters and minor celebrities know that everything in that post is wrong.

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 09:23

BibiSuzanne · 22/06/2025 09:22

Sorry meant for @Dangermoo

Oh I know it was meant for me 😉

BibiSuzanne · 22/06/2025 09:22

BibiSuzanne · 22/06/2025 09:20

Back patting in progress 😂

Sorry meant for @Dangermoo

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 09:22

Portakalkedi · 22/06/2025 09:21

When I see the various protests about what's going on re the Middle East, it does stand out that nobody is protesting against Hamas/Palestine, who provoked this war in the first place, and who could end it by giving up their hostages. Where are all the protestors/minor celebrities spouting opinions about this?

That's not juicy enough. They've got to condescend the 'brown' people. By doing so, it keeps them on their pedestals.

Portakalkedi · 22/06/2025 09:21

When I see the various protests about what's going on re the Middle East, it does stand out that nobody is protesting against Hamas/Palestine, who provoked this war in the first place, and who could end it by giving up their hostages. Where are all the protestors/minor celebrities spouting opinions about this?

BibiSuzanne · 22/06/2025 09:20

EasyTouch · 22/06/2025 09:09

Oh, do me a favour! Israel targeted Hezbollah operatives, not the public.
The same Hezbollah that has been launching missiles at Israel since before Hamas declared war against her.
Please do not confuse your love affair with anti Western/anti Semitic terrorists with them being innocent John and Joe public.
You will be side eyed and laughed to scorn outside of your curated bubble otherwise.
Imagine being so privileged and indolent in life as to being picking up for Hezbollah!
What a sellout!

Back patting in progress 😂

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 09:18

@Easytouch I think you've got something there, with the love affair thing going on. They will take that literally, of course.

ShesTheAlbatross · 22/06/2025 09:17

Jumpupjumphigh · 21/06/2025 17:16

But arguing against the wisdom of the UK getting directly involved is not "supporting the Iranian regime".

Unless you think there can only be two types of governments in the world: those we actively support and those we go to war against.

Totally agree. Absolutely loads of people didn’t want the war in Iraq. I don’t think they were all accused of being massive Saddam Hussein supporters.

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 09:15

EasyTouch · 22/06/2025 09:09

Oh, do me a favour! Israel targeted Hezbollah operatives, not the public.
The same Hezbollah that has been launching missiles at Israel since before Hamas declared war against her.
Please do not confuse your love affair with anti Western/anti Semitic terrorists with them being innocent John and Joe public.
You will be side eyed and laughed to scorn outside of your curated bubble otherwise.
Imagine being so privileged and indolent in life as to being picking up for Hezbollah!
What a sellout!

👏 👏

EasyTouch · 22/06/2025 09:09

Oh, do me a favour! Israel targeted Hezbollah operatives, not the public.
The same Hezbollah that has been launching missiles at Israel since before Hamas declared war against her.
Please do not confuse your love affair with anti Western/anti Semitic terrorists with them being innocent John and Joe public.
You will be side eyed and laughed to scorn outside of your curated bubble otherwise.
Imagine being so privileged and indolent in life as to being picking up for Hezbollah!
What a sellout!

ssd · 22/06/2025 08:25

AnnaBalfour · 22/06/2025 08:23

Why do people confuse people protesting over the innocent lives lost in Gaza as being pro Hanas

Why do people deliberately ‘confuse’ people protesting another war being started in the Middle East, innocent victims etc as being pro Khamenei

So lazy and convenient

Its to shut down discussion. Pure and simple.

NautilusLionfish · 22/06/2025 08:25

xanthomelana · 21/06/2025 18:21

I don’t support either side because I’m against innocent civilians dying, but the hypocrisy from Israel supporters over a hospital getting bombed is unbelievable given what we’ve seen happen in Gaza.

I hope in years to come they study this war and how people were brainwashed into believing that their governments were acting in the interests of the rest of the world.

Hypocritical to whine about Iran having nuclear weapons as well when Israel has been far from transparent about their own nuclear capabilities but I’m sure someone will be along to justify it shortly.

They will not study it because the people being killed are considered less than, expendable by the leaders and much of the populace here. If there was learning to be done, it would have been done after 1953. 1979. After the Iraq war. After Patrice Lumumba in Zaire now DRC. After Libya. I could go on and on. It's not that these are missed opportunities to learn. It's that they don't care.

AnnaBalfour · 22/06/2025 08:23

Why do people confuse people protesting over the innocent lives lost in Gaza as being pro Hanas

Why do people deliberately ‘confuse’ people protesting another war being started in the Middle East, innocent victims etc as being pro Khamenei

So lazy and convenient

NautilusLionfish · 22/06/2025 08:19

Jumpupjumphigh · 21/06/2025 17:23

This might be an appropriate moment to remind people, AGAIN sigh that the reason the murderous, barbaric Iranian regime is there in the first place is because Britain and America scuppered Iran's last hope of enlightened democracy by staging a coup in 1953, then spent two decades propping up a corrupt military dictatorship against the will of the Iranian people, to protect their oil interests.

Plus ça change...

I keep thinking this. 1953. 1979.
It seems to me that people Britain and America never learn about how they repeatedly instal the worst dictatorships around the world. Yes I absolutely abhor the Iranian regime. But killing the Ayatollah will not necessarily free Iranians. Especially starting this when the current government was at the discussion table seeming ready to decelerate it's alleged program.
Be careful what you wish for.

BibiSuzanne · 22/06/2025 07:40

Terrorism? Like the pagers used by Israel in Lebanon?

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 07:35

A quick question. If Iran decides to use terrorism as a means of revenge for the recent US attacks to get and instill fear into the US population how should the US and its allies respomd?

Maybe Israel could use some of their nuclear weapons on Iran if they respond.

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 07:33

Madcatdudette · 22/06/2025 01:30

Really? You have no clue about the slaughter of other Muslims around the world? Or the slaughter of Christians? Or any other religious group?

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Ok maybe you can explain the post since @Dangermoo won't despite me asking politely and them being active on numerous other threads
Their post was in response to my post stating

"It absolutely is.

Holding Israel accountable for their actions the same as any other government is not anti semitism"

And that was the response. I said I don't have a clue because I fail to see the relevance.

mids2019 · 22/06/2025 07:33

Well done Trump by the way. Courageous and righteous decision.

You do worry now about the anger in some of these pro Palestinain / pro Iran demonstrations will spill out into physical violence . We already have had vandalism on RAF bases and with Iran's foreign spy network probably agitating for more demonstrations of is worrying. There was a 'stop the hate" counter demonstration where a bottle was thrown at a member of the crowd and do people believe this is reasonable behaviour?

A quick question. If Iran decides to use terrorism as a means of revenge for the recent US attacks to get and instill fear into the US population how should the US and its allies respomd?

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CharlieRight · 22/06/2025 06:35

China has banned the export of rare earth metals (eg Ce, Nd, Dy), heavy metals (As, Sb) and refractory metals (W, Mo, Nb). That’s a problem because China dominate the supply chains of these materials and they are essential for motors, electronics, bullets, high explosives, shrapnel and armor penetration.

so hopefully they will run out of bombs soon

YourOnMute · 22/06/2025 02:07

Do you mean the slaughter of Muslims and Christians in Gaza and in Lebanon? The slaughter of Muslims (and possibly Christians too) in Syria? All recently bombed by Israel.
I don't want anyone to be bombed. Who does?

Wasn't it the bombings and atrocities carried out against ordinary civilians in WW2 that so horrified the world that it created international laws and defined war crimes within this to prevent it happening again?

But this is a thread about a demonstration protesting the bombing of Iran in London. If you care so much about other atrocities, please feel free to create a thread for them or join existing ones.

Madcatdudette · 22/06/2025 01:30

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:06

???
I haven't a clue what you are talking about?

Really? You have no clue about the slaughter of other Muslims around the world? Or the slaughter of Christians? Or any other religious group?

YourOnMute · 22/06/2025 01:04

I could have picked up the terminology wrong but that was the jist of it.

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