Protesters in London - stop bombing Iran?????

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I can’t see a post where you asked a question?
Yes, in 2003 there was an anti war protest but we didn’t do it everywhere, every weekend and piss everyone off 🤷‍♀️

Are you reading the thread backwards? Or just decided to quote with no relevance?

How can you know what the poster is and isn't passionate about?

And you do realise you are asking a Palestinian why they are passionate about Palestine? 🙃

Same here.

I was on the march, I loathe Iran and I loathe Hamas but I felt I could no longer stand by as children are starving to death in Gaza. If I thought bombing Iran would usher in a reasonable government then I'd support it, but it won't. It makes the whole region far more volatile.

Thanks for this response but it still doesn't address my original quoted post.
I didn't attend the march, but I wouldn't see it as a march FOR Iran, rather that it was a march opposed to bombing Iran.
I marched in the huge anti WMD/Gulf war ones and they were not FOR Iraq but against going to war and bombing it. Against getting involved in a war that will lead to death, injury and trauma to British soldiers. I think that's an issue that affects us.

No you back em all you want.
Some people who have no affiliation with Palestine or Israel have issues with the Pro Palestine movement. Not because they don’t care about suffering, but because when anyone said anything against the Pro Palestine movement they were jumped on.
Pro Palestine hasn’t been successful in raising the right kind of awareness perhaps was originally intended.
Now we have Pro Palestine marching for Iran, in the UK. We have Pro Palestine breaking into Brize Norton.
Back Palestine all you want because ultimately it’s always the common folk who suffer. But when Palestine becomes a backing of Iran that seems very dangerous for the UK.
Many people said they didn’t care because they didn’t want involvement in anymore gulf wars; they only really cared about issues in their own country etc.
Now here we are on the verge of another conflict that we neither wanted nor agreed with and people are still marching for a foreign land that has carried out attacks on British soil.

And just to elaborate people may be interested or support a particular issue or concern above others for various reasons and that's ok. It doesn't make that concern less valid or not important.
If I am most concerned with the illegal occupation of Palestine and the horrific situation in Gaza, there is nothing wrong with that. It's doesn't mean that I do not have empathy for people in other horrendous situations. It doesn't mean that I do not know about other situations and support them as well as I can either. I feel that you are trying to ally some kind of failing or fault with not vocalising every wrong that exists in the world. It's not a failing or a wrong.
It's perfectly fine and human to say this is a cause I follow and support.

That's an assumption on your part.

Apologies but I cannot make any sense out of what you are trying to say.
And by the way, I'm not anti-Israel. Don't assume so and state it. I'm anti the actions of the government of Israel and so are a lot of Israelis.
And yes I am aware of the persecution of Christians in the West Bank and Gaza, including harrassment carried out on processions (example by settlers on Palm Sunday), harassment of religious people in dress, displacement and the bombing of churches. Including Christians being killed.

@HermioneWeasley

God, some of you are so naive.

Changing an authoritarian regime that's been in power for several decades, is not going to be easily dismantled.

If anything, the US and Israel will make Iranians more united against the enemy. You know the people attacking them, destroying their buildings and killing their people as collateral damage. Do you think scientists and others don't have families?

You think, they should thank the Americans and Israel for bombing them, expecting them to roll over and apparently surrender happily?
If the Iranians have survived an authoritarian and theocratic government for decades, they will survive these attacks and chose their own way, and definitely not the West's diktak.

Iraq - deposing Saddam Hussain, almost 15 years later, Iraq is still a mess
Libya - removing Gaddafi has led to a absolute chaos and warring factions for leadership.

Tunisia and Libya as a result are now the way for migrants into Europe.
Arab Spring - how many succeeded in actually changing their government?
We can't even manage proper change here with voting democratically - out with the Blue Tories, hello Red Tories!

Oh okay. Didn’t realise we were using emojis as a way to describe someone 🤷‍♀️
I’m sure people would say the same about Palestine after 7/10. Can’t prod a bear and not expect repercussions.
It seems victim mentality is a modern concept that shows itself in conflicts too 🤷‍♀️

Not about Palestine either, yet here you are mentioning Palestine 🤷‍♀️
Well at least I can understand your strong opinion. However, how have you come to the conclusion I am lying and gaslighting?

What is different now than all the times I. The past 32 years that Netanyahu has said Iran is developing a nuclear weapon.

The image below shows all the predictions he made that failed to come true.

No script. No whataboutery which is a ‘word’ that always gets used when someone wants to dismiss an opinion.
You don’t need need to prove anything. It’s more of a how can you be so passionate about Palestine and not anywhere or anything else 🤷‍♀️

No I don’t conform to double standards

i treat all humans as of equal value

and in a thread about this specific conflict I don’t think I should have to state my position on other problems in the world and I recognise in that a distraction technique

other than to say I don’t think any of them are being solved by violence

dont bomb Iran - it’s wrong.

yes there are other things wrong in the world is like NAMALT

No, you just conform to double standards.

yip I won’t conform to a thought pattern that promotes violence and I am proud of that

😆 🤣 😂 for that read - you haven't conformed to how we demand you think. Yep, tedious.

OK. But the post of mine that you commented on was in response to a pp who’d said:

You couldn't give a shiny shite about Iranian women and their rights until it suits the Israeli agenda.

So the issue is the genuineness of concern for others in the minds of those of us who take a different view from that pp - and you, I think - about Israel’s actions (as I see it, self-defensive actions).

I’m just pointing out that if people want to sling that sort of thing about, they must expect to be told that people are suspicious about the reality of humanitarian concerns of anti-Israel posters and what might truly lie behind bogus concern for Palestinians.

@BibiSuzanne ”This thread is not about Burkina Faso is it?”

It’s not about Palestine either, but it’s been shoehorned in.

It’s tedious isn’t it?

although I think it shows they ard on the back foot

And you haven’t answered my question about these authors.