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European Commission President days Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons. Israel has right to defend itself

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Nowayyousure · 16/06/2025 04:31

"European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said she told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday that diplomacy was ultimately best on Iran, but stopped short of calling for an immediate ceasefire.

Von der Leyen said that she agreed with Netanyahu in a telephone call that "Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, without any question."

Von der Leyen has previously criticised Israel's actions in Gaza, but said that Iran's non-compliance with the UN nuclear watchdog meant Israel "has the right to defend itself".

"Iran is the principal source of regional instability," she added."

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sualipa · 18/06/2025 16:13

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2025/06/iranian-nobel-laureates-cannes-winner-urge-halt-iran-israel-conflict

Leading Iranian activists and filmmakers on Monday called for an end to hostilities between Iran and Israel, urging Tehran to stop the conflict by halting its enrichment of uranium.

"We demand the immediate halt of uranium enrichment by the Islamic Republic, the cessation of military hostilities, an end to attacks on vital infrastructure in both Iran and Israel, and the stopping of massacres of civilians in both countries," said the activists in an op-ed in French newspaper Le Monde.

The signatories included Nobel peace prize winners Shirin Ebadi and Narges Mohammadi, as well as the winner of the top prize at the 2025 Cannes Film Festival, Jafar Panahi, and his fellow director Mohammad Rassoulof.

Iran's enrichment of uranium has for decades been a cause of tension with the West and Israel, which fear the drive is aimed at making an atomic bomb, a charge denied by Tehran.

"We believe that continuing uranium enrichment and the devastating war between the Islamic Republic and the Israeli regime neither serves the Iranian people nor humanity at large," said the signatories who also included the rights activists Sedigheh Vasmaghi, Shahnaz Akmali and Abdolfattah Soltani.

"Uranium enrichment is in no way in the interest of the Iranian people. They must not be sacrificed for the nuclear or geopolitical ambitions of an authoritarian regime," they said.

Calling on the Iranian leadership under Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to step down, they said: "The current leaders of the Islamic Republic lack the capacity to resolve Iran's domestic crises or its external tensions."

"The only credible path to preserve this country and its people is for current authorities to step down."

Panahi returned to Iran last month after winning the Palme d'Or for his latest movie, "It Was Just an Accident", but has been presenting his work this month at a film festival in Australia.

Rassoulof, whose latest film was shown at the 2024 festival, now lives in exile after escaping clandestinely that year.

Ebadi, who won the 2023 Nobel peace prize, also now lives abroad.

Mohammadi, the 2023 laureate, remains in Iran and his currently on leave for health reasons from a prison term.

Panahi won the Palme d'Or for his latest movie, 'It Was Just an Accident'

Iranian Nobel laureates, Cannes winner urge halt to Iran-Israel conflict

Leading Iranian activists and filmmakers on Monday called for an end to hostilities between Iran and Israel, urging Tehran to stop the conflict by halting its enrichment of uranium."We demand the immediate halt of uranium enrichment by the Islamic Repu...

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2025/06/iranian-nobel-laureates-cannes-winner-urge-halt-iran-israel-conflict

quantumbutterfly · 18/06/2025 16:13

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 15:51

So the Israelis were responsible 911? You couldn't make it up 😅

A couple of days after it happened my colleague asked me if I'd heard the rumour Jewish workers were told not to work in the building on 9/11.........😶....I hadn't till then.

sualipa · 18/06/2025 16:09

What a brave, brave woman standing at the very tip of the spear of Israeli aggression. Let’s be clear: these actions are not about the Iranian people; they are about securing Israel’s strategic position. To pretend otherwise is dishonest. Even more seasoned voices, like the former head of British MI5, have echoed the same view. Israel isn't interested in building a better future for Iran it wants a failed state, one torn apart from within, so it can be left alone in peace. The outcome doesn't matter to them. And it certainly doesn’t matter to Trump either.

Narges Mohammadi | نرگس محمدی
@nargesfnd
Democracy cannot come through war, Iranian Nobel winner tells BBC : “I witnessed horrendous attacks, they are hitting infrastructure, a lot of civilian deaths … It was one of the worst and terrifying experiences that we have had” Mohammadi said.

Mohammadi says she has left Tehran and has called on Israel to stop airstrikes.

"I deeply believe that democracy, human rights, and freedom cannot come through violence and war," she told the BBC through an interpreter.
For her activism, Mohammadi was previously imprisoned in the notorious Evin prison in Tehran, but was later released for medical reasons.

#NoToWar

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx23e4jz2g0t?post=asset%3Aaffaf574-f769-4ec2-804e-e9c1af795eac

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 15:51

quantumbutterfly · 18/06/2025 15:41

Don’t forget the Mossad operatives that danced with joy on 9/11 who conveniently disappeared back to Israel.

https://www.thehistoryreader.com/military-history/mossad-911/

..............agencies had concrete evidence that al-Qaeda was an increasing threat: one of its operatives had been stopped at the last moment from flying a hijacked plane into the Eiffel Tower in Paris......

So not just big bad US as a target.I wonder what the response would have been. We're lucky that security services foil so many shenanigans, we mainly hear about the ones that 'succeed'.

So the Israelis were responsible 911? You couldn't make it up 😅

quantumbutterfly · 18/06/2025 15:41

Kindatired · 18/06/2025 13:20

Netanyahu and his neocon cronies are the ones that threaten the stability of Europe. He would prefer chaos on his borders than peaceful co- existence and has been working for 30 years to destabilize the surrounding countries, pitching them into the hands of extremists when it suits him. His finger is in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon
He carries some of the responsibility for the flooding of Europe with refugees which in turn has shifted so many towards right wing politicians.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
Nothing would give him greater pleasure than an attack on a US embassy by Iran backed proxies. Don’t forget the Mossad operatives that danced with joy on 9/11 who conveniently disappeared back to Israel.
Netanyahu would be happy to see Iran to turn into another Afghanistan with American boots on the ground, hundreds of thousands fleeing a taliban type regime into the EU and Britain. He would like to see the Americans and the Brits conscripted and killed while his own lads are praying in their Yeshivas and voting for his coalition.

Don’t forget the Mossad operatives that danced with joy on 9/11 who conveniently disappeared back to Israel.

https://www.thehistoryreader.com/military-history/mossad-911/

..............agencies had concrete evidence that al-Qaeda was an increasing threat: one of its operatives had been stopped at the last moment from flying a hijacked plane into the Eiffel Tower in Paris......

So not just big bad US as a target.I wonder what the response would have been. We're lucky that security services foil so many shenanigans, we mainly hear about the ones that 'succeed'.

Mossad and 9/11 - The History Reader : The History Reader

WCAG Heading WCAG Heading WCAG Heading By Gordon Thomas Anti-Semitic conspiracists plan to flood the internet to mark the tenth anniversary of 9/11 attacks by resurrecting the old canard that Mossad, Israel’s secret intelligence service, knew in advanc...

https://www.thehistoryreader.com/military-history/mossad-911/

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 15:16

Silence1 · 18/06/2025 15:08

She is a first hand witness, a Noble Peace Prize winner and so brave fighting for women's rights but still what she says is not good enough .You would have her learn hasbara. Somehow I trust her more than the men leading either Iran or Israel.

That wasn't what you implied in your OP. Glad you now apportion as much blame to the Ayatollah. Why would I "have her learn Hasbara"?

Silence1 · 18/06/2025 15:08

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 14:47

Of course you do, she confirms your bias.

She is a first hand witness, a Noble Peace Prize winner and so brave fighting for women's rights but still what she says is not good enough .You would have her learn hasbara. Somehow I trust her more than the men leading either Iran or Israel.

Findoutmode · 18/06/2025 15:07

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:58

So, why did you post?

What an insightful post, and so speedy too, and, most importantly, proving my point.

1dayatatime · 18/06/2025 15:01

@Findoutmode

"What's the point of these threads?

Opinions are entirely entrenched, especially form the anti Israel gang, it's not informative just online rants from keyboard warriors.

Why don't you quit your screens and go out to speak with real people, breathe in some fresh summer air and enjoy yourselves in real life? "

Most informative and persuasive post I've seen on this topic so far.

I think I'll take your advice and leave the anti Israel gang to their echo chamber, batshit conspiracy theories and fake statements.

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:58

Findoutmode · 18/06/2025 14:56

What's the point of these threads?

Opinions are entirely entrenched, especially form the anti Israel gang, it's not informative just online rants from keyboard warriors.

Why don't you quit your screens and go out to speak with real people, breathe in some fresh summer air and enjoy yourselves in real life?

It could all be over soon if some are to be believed, or Israel has just saved us all from nuclear threat. Who knows.

But arguing online is the most pointless thing.

I'm hoping that all the posts are actually from badly programmed bots as the thought that people sit glued to their screens to argue with strangers about things they have zero influence on is quite sad.

So, why did you post?

Findoutmode · 18/06/2025 14:56

What's the point of these threads?

Opinions are entirely entrenched, especially form the anti Israel gang, it's not informative just online rants from keyboard warriors.

Why don't you quit your screens and go out to speak with real people, breathe in some fresh summer air and enjoy yourselves in real life?

It could all be over soon if some are to be believed, or Israel has just saved us all from nuclear threat. Who knows.

But arguing online is the most pointless thing.

I'm hoping that all the posts are actually from badly programmed bots as the thought that people sit glued to their screens to argue with strangers about things they have zero influence on is quite sad.

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 14:47

Silence1 · 18/06/2025 14:32

Narges Mohammadi was on the news and saying Israel is bombing civilian areas. She also said that although many do hate the regime, they equally hate Israel right now, that the people of Iran don't deserve this and they want Israel to stop.

I respect her opinion above any posters on here.

Of course you do, she confirms your bias.

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 14:46

I'm seeing those undertones again.

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:44

dairydebris · 18/06/2025 14:32

She's a clearly highly intelligent and accomplished woman. Obviously you can disagree with her on certain matters but to have no respect for her at all? In her position? Very bizarre.

Agree - she is intelligent and accomplished.

Also, unaccountable.

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:43

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:36

That’s a bit pointless to focus on. Statements are there to understand direction those people will take.

If no answer on the U.K. question then I understand you might have different concerns.

Agree - it is a direction they choose for us.
The reasoning behind it could be different.

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:36

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:32

I know what they say. I don’t know what they think. Do you? Or do you really believe they say what they think??

That’s a bit pointless to focus on. Statements are there to understand direction those people will take.

If no answer on the U.K. question then I understand you might have different concerns.

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:32

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:30

So you were incorrect on not knowing what leaders think. G7 and EC have made statements.

Are you keen for Iran to have nuclear weapon capability? Are you in the U.K. out of interest?

I know what they say. I don’t know what they think. Do you? Or do you really believe they say what they think??

dairydebris · 18/06/2025 14:32

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:23

I know what she said.
She doesn’t speak for me, and guess I’m not the only one to have no respect for her.

She's a clearly highly intelligent and accomplished woman. Obviously you can disagree with her on certain matters but to have no respect for her at all? In her position? Very bizarre.

Silence1 · 18/06/2025 14:32

EasternStandard · 17/06/2025 18:54

On googling it looks like the majority do not support the regime.

ETA appreciate the insight.

Edited

Narges Mohammadi was on the news and saying Israel is bombing civilian areas. She also said that although many do hate the regime, they equally hate Israel right now, that the people of Iran don't deserve this and they want Israel to stop.

I respect her opinion above any posters on here.

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:30

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:23

I know what she said.
She doesn’t speak for me, and guess I’m not the only one to have no respect for her.

So you were incorrect on not knowing what leaders think. G7 and EC have made statements.

Are you keen for Iran to have nuclear weapon capability? Are you in the U.K. out of interest?

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:23

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:20

Here you go @izthiszeend

I know what she said.
She doesn’t speak for me, and guess I’m not the only one to have no respect for her.

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:20

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:19

Yes we do. You’re on a thread with their quote in the op.

Do you believe a 90mln+ country should have access to radiotherapy? Nuclear power for energy?

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:20

Nowayyousure · 16/06/2025 04:31

"European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said she told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday that diplomacy was ultimately best on Iran, but stopped short of calling for an immediate ceasefire.

Von der Leyen said that she agreed with Netanyahu in a telephone call that "Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, without any question."

Von der Leyen has previously criticised Israel's actions in Gaza, but said that Iran's non-compliance with the UN nuclear watchdog meant Israel "has the right to defend itself".

"Iran is the principal source of regional instability," she added."

Here you go @izthiszeend

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 14:19

izthiszeend · 18/06/2025 14:17

We don’t know what they think or what they see as threats.
I guess they don’t want a war with the USA (who does?), so they will keep following them.
We just know that what they say makes less and less sense, so fewer people trust them.

Yes we do. You’re on a thread with their quote in the op.

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 14:18

dairydebris · 18/06/2025 14:14

Confirmation bias 👍🏼

Yep

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