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European Commission President days Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons. Israel has right to defend itself

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Nowayyousure · 16/06/2025 04:31

"European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said she told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday that diplomacy was ultimately best on Iran, but stopped short of calling for an immediate ceasefire.

Von der Leyen said that she agreed with Netanyahu in a telephone call that "Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, without any question."

Von der Leyen has previously criticised Israel's actions in Gaza, but said that Iran's non-compliance with the UN nuclear watchdog meant Israel "has the right to defend itself".

"Iran is the principal source of regional instability," she added."

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HellsBalls · 17/06/2025 09:59

@Amplepombear ”We have been here before, haven’t we? It is crucial that we investigate.”

Exactly the problem. The Iranian government would not let the IAEA investigate, after years of pissing everyone around.
If they had of done, and not created plutonium capable of military use, they wouldn’t be hiding in bomb shelters today with their airforce and air defenses defeated.

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:46

inamarina · 17/06/2025 09:36

I think ultimately it boils down to the fact that some people operate under the premise that Israel shouldn’t exist in the first place.

Israeli needs a regime change. We can’t have a war criminal sowing seeds of terrorism in the region with his fingers on a nuke button. No way in hell.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 17/06/2025 09:45

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:45

How nice that we have just found out who is funding Netenyahu’s mercenaries in Gaza.

<Checks pockets> No, it's not me.

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:45

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 17/06/2025 09:40

No, I think they'll be relieved that there's hope they won't have Iran funded terrorists in their country, covering their strategic sites with children and playing war from afar

How nice that we have just found out who is funding Netenyahu’s mercenaries in Gaza.

Dangermoo · 17/06/2025 09:45

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:36

I think you will find that the people in these regions are now thinking ‘When will these land g tea beers come after me once they are done with Gaza and now Tehran?’

or does this sort of worry only matters if your skin is white?

Oh FGS.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 17/06/2025 09:40

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:36

I think you will find that the people in these regions are now thinking ‘When will these land g tea beers come after me once they are done with Gaza and now Tehran?’

or does this sort of worry only matters if your skin is white?

No, I think they'll be relieved that there's hope they won't have Iran funded terrorists in their country, covering their strategic sites with children and playing war from afar

EasternStandard · 17/06/2025 09:39

There’s a new AIBU thread that will hopefully go. But it’s indicative of the stuff flooding SM rn.

inamarina · 17/06/2025 09:36

tramtracks · 17/06/2025 09:27

Agreed. Following this logic - we would all be living under Nazi rule by now. Why anyone can support a country who has a sole and stated aim to destroy Jews is beyond me.

I think ultimately it boils down to the fact that some people operate under the premise that Israel shouldn’t exist in the first place.

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:36

1dayatatime · 17/06/2025 09:14

@EasternStandard

@Twiglets1

"Twiglets1
I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

That’s the concerning part on SM"

I fear that it becomes a very short step from "I support Iran's right to attack my own country " to "I support terrorists attacking my own country " to "I'm actually the terrorist attacking my own country ".

I think you will find that the people in these regions are now thinking ‘When will these land g tea beers come after me once they are done with Gaza and now Tehran?’

or does this sort of worry only matters if your skin is white?

EasternStandard · 17/06/2025 09:30

1dayatatime · 17/06/2025 09:14

@EasternStandard

@Twiglets1

"Twiglets1
I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

That’s the concerning part on SM"

I fear that it becomes a very short step from "I support Iran's right to attack my own country " to "I support terrorists attacking my own country " to "I'm actually the terrorist attacking my own country ".

There seems to be strong contingent of these posts. If I were someone to look at the SM on this I’d be concerned about how much there is.

tramtracks · 17/06/2025 09:27

EasternStandard · 16/06/2025 20:03

Agree. It’s concerning people see it that way.

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Agreed. Following this logic - we would all be living under Nazi rule by now. Why anyone can support a country who has a sole and stated aim to destroy Jews is beyond me.

1dayatatime · 17/06/2025 09:14

@EasternStandard

@Twiglets1

"Twiglets1
I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

That’s the concerning part on SM"

I fear that it becomes a very short step from "I support Iran's right to attack my own country " to "I support terrorists attacking my own country " to "I'm actually the terrorist attacking my own country ".

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 09:11

Twiglets1 · 17/06/2025 08:54

Just a load of word salad.

We have been here before, haven’t we? It is crucial that we investigate. Also, justice requires we investigate Israel’s nukes also, after their persistent campaign of terror against Palestinians.
This new frontier of war they have opened is going to have long range consequences and not at all anything good.
We must investigate who is behind this and why? Trump is supporting Putin, Trump is also supporting Netenyahu and overtly blocking Ukraine. Why? If there was ever any time that the world needed de-escalation from all wars, it is now so we can figure out what is benefiting which party!

EasternStandard · 17/06/2025 09:09

Twiglets1 · 17/06/2025 08:37

I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

That’s the concerning part on SM.

Twiglets1 · 17/06/2025 08:54

SharonEllis · 17/06/2025 08:47

What are you talking about? The IAEA is the international body that reports to the UN.

Just a load of word salad.

inamarina · 17/06/2025 08:49

Twiglets1 · 17/06/2025 08:37

I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

A behaviour that Gad Saad describes as “suicidal empathy”.

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 08:48

Nowayyousure · 17/06/2025 08:37

It's really worrying when you see this type of lack.of thinking. Social media filled with little thinking and similar rants.

Do you think Uk, USA and Israel have not been doing proxy wars in other countries through their own mercenaries?
think again. Israel has been fighting proxy in Iran for ages and vice versa.

This, under no circumstances, warrants for any kind of direct attack on a sovereign nation. In fact, the whole point of proxy wars is to avoid engaging in a full on war costing thousands of lives and billions to economies.

Do no try to appropriate the work of British agencies for the dirty job that Trump and Netenyahu are doing. It’s going to sow generations of hatred. These pictures and videos are never going away. And who is reaping the benefits? Of course the oligarchs everywhere.

SharonEllis · 17/06/2025 08:47

Amplepombear · 17/06/2025 08:12

This is one BBC report on someone seeing some report from them. We need thorough investigations. We cannot afford another Iraq all over again where every one and their mom had some evidence till they didn’t. Therefore, we need proper investigation authorised by international bodies without adding further fuel to the destability in the region. Israel is only planting seeds of generations of hatred in the region with this campaign.
Was the current regime of Iran an outcome of the coup that USA and U.K. brought about? When will we learn lessons? We need thorough investigations in open and not ‘seen by some journalist’.
They were utterly sure about Saddam till they weren’t. And that led to millions of lives lost and tens of millions of refugees inundating Europe, including the U.K.

What are you talking about? The IAEA is the international body that reports to the UN.

1dayatatime · 17/06/2025 08:44

@treesfalling

"So less than 2 months ago five Iranians were arrested for planning a terrorist bomb attack in London. "

"Some people would still be cheering & waving flags whilst the bomb is hurtling towards them 🤷🏻‍♀️"

To be honest I am more concerned that such people spend so long in social media echo chambers and protest groups becoming angrier and angrier that they themselves become radicalised and actually become the ones hurtling bombs.

Nowayyousure · 17/06/2025 08:38

Twiglets1 · 17/06/2025 08:37

I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

About right.

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Twiglets1 · 17/06/2025 08:37

treesfalling · 17/06/2025 08:33

So less than 2 months ago five Iranians were arrested for planning a terrorist bomb attack in London.

Some people would still be cheering & waving flags whilst the bomb is hurtling towards them 🤷🏻‍♀️

I fear that is true.

"I support Iran's right to destroy other countries including potentially mine because we are more privileged than them."

Nowayyousure · 17/06/2025 08:37

1dayatatime · 17/06/2025 08:32

@Nads0622

"Israel has murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians , many would say that Israel is the terrorist !!!!"

So less than 2 months ago five Iranians were arrested for planning a terrorist bomb attack in London. Try and think what might happen if Iran gets access to nuclear weapons.

My fear here is that your extreme left wing liberal self hate of the UK, the West and its values combined with "Israel must always be wrong " have led you to a position where are now sympathising with Iran which has attacked British ships through its proxies, kidnapped Royal Navy and has terrorists planning attacks in London.

You may not recognise it yourself but if you continue down this rabbit hole you risk becoming further radicalised.

It's really worrying when you see this type of lack.of thinking. Social media filled with little thinking and similar rants.

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treesfalling · 17/06/2025 08:33

So less than 2 months ago five Iranians were arrested for planning a terrorist bomb attack in London.

Some people would still be cheering & waving flags whilst the bomb is hurtling towards them 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nowayyousure · 17/06/2025 08:32

Nads0622 · 17/06/2025 07:38

Israel has murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians , many would say that Israel is the terrorist !!!!

Oh dear. Have you anything to say about the subject of thread at all? What the EC said about Iran? Any comments? Or just the usual Israel bad shouting which fills so many threads. I believe each thread has a topic for a reason. Helps with discussion rather than the 'shouting' which contributes little.

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1dayatatime · 17/06/2025 08:32

@Nads0622

"Israel has murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians , many would say that Israel is the terrorist !!!!"

So less than 2 months ago five Iranians were arrested for planning a terrorist bomb attack in London. Try and think what might happen if Iran gets access to nuclear weapons.

My fear here is that your extreme left wing liberal self hate of the UK, the West and its values combined with "Israel must always be wrong " have led you to a position where are now sympathising with Iran which has attacked British ships through its proxies, kidnapped Royal Navy and has terrorists planning attacks in London.

You may not recognise it yourself but if you continue down this rabbit hole you risk becoming further radicalised.