To wish those in Israel safety in these coming times

Oh look, OP gets upset that the Isreali hospital gets hit when civillians are inside - question - were you as upset when isreal were bombing the palastinian hospitals in gaza? killing hundreds if not thousands of civillians, women and children in the process? no? then why the hell not?

No I don't think Israel would bomb one of their own hospitals (even in the strange situation where Hamas were hiding underneath) because they are not at war with themselves.

No I don't have evidence of Hamas command centres underneath every single hospital Israel has bombed over the last 2 years, but I tend to believe them when they say that they had the suspicion of Hamas militants or tunnels in the hospital grounds.

Where they were mistaken, this should be investigated to see if they had enough reasonable grounds to bomb or not. It may be the case that certain individuals who are investigated after the war are found guilty of war crimes as they lacked sufficient evidence but bombed the hospital anyway. In this situation, I would agree that the individuals have committed war crimes and should be punished.

Why on earth are you mentioning the Fortress of Zion (located underground beneath the IDF headquarters in central Tel Aviv) in connection with the bombing of a hospital in a city over 100 km away?

Oh dear, my reply wasn’t polite enough . Once more @10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne - your lack of knowledge means that you are very confidently mixing up two cities 100km apart.

So, not only is there are strong possibility of a military presence under the hospital (the Fortress of Zion), there's a definite military presence right next to the hospital.

Right - so, there is an underground military complex in TLV (not under a hospital), therefore "chances are" there's one under a hospital in a city 100km away?

yeah It was this.

Chances are that there is a military presence under the hospital. The IDF have large, sprawling underground bunker called the Fortress of Zion under Tel Aviv.

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Sorry, are you actually suggesting the IDF have a base in a hospital? Or that Israel bombed its own hospital and blamed it on Iran? Is that what you believe? For what reason do you believe this? Because otherwise its just yet more word salad...

Start a war, you get war crimes. Iran, Israel, Palestine, the UK, the US. All commited war crimes.

You bomb a hospital that you know has no military value at all, its a war crime, no matter who pulled the trigger.

According to the Iranian government there were members of the military in the hospital that they hit.

According to the Iranian government! Not really a ringing endorsement is it? I think what is valid though is that pretty much next door to the hospital is a military intelligence facility and it could be that the missile was slightly adrift and caught the hospital instead. Perhaps. Difficult to know for sure.

Agree but all parties have to be abiding by international law and one might question whether that is always the case in the ME.

The presence of a military target near or beneath a hospital does not automatically make the hospital a valid target under international law. Even if there is some military activity, the laws of armed conflict require strict proportionality and precautions to avoid harm to civilians. Hospitals still retain special protection, and attacks on them must meet an extremely high threshold of justification.

In many of the cases where Israel has bombed hospitals, little to no verifiable evidence was provided to support the claims that they were being used as military command centres. And even if there were legitimate targets nearby, intentionally destroying a hospital treating civilians, or making it inoperable, would still likely violate international law if the civilian harm is excessive in relation to the military advantage.

If we are now agreeing that hospitals are not valid targets unless the military presence is clear, confirmed, and proportionate, then the standard needs to apply to everyone, not only to Iran or others. The rules of war are not optional. They are meant to protect civilians, no matter which side they are on.

According to the Iranian government there were members of the military in the hospital that they hit.

Really? It’s like the Iranian regime is playing a sick joke on Israel.

It’s awful because ultimately ordinary people pay the price.

I'm wondering why this thread is being derailed, when it's rinse and repeat posts being brought from the numerous other threads.

No they aren't.
That's just a lie you tell yourself so that killing Palestinians is ok in your mind.

1. Do you think Israel would bomb one of their own hosptials if Hamas were hiding underneath btw?
2. do you have evidence of hamas command centres underneath every single hospital bombed by Israel over the last two years? Dozens if not hundreds of attacks?

Oh you’re back… well they are valid targets if they have military command centres built underneath them with top military commanders hiding there.

If they are just hospitals treating sick people then no they are not valid military targets.

We see what we see on these threads which is very little sympathy ever being expressed for Israeli citizens caught up in the violence of war.

Hence we don’t expect to see an outcry against Iran for targeting Israel citizens in a hospital but time will tell if it even gets mentioned on many threads.

According to the Lebanese Ministry of Health, between October 2023 and November 2024 the Israeli military attacked 67 hospitals, 56 primary health care centres, and 238 emergency medical teams, killing at least 222 medical and emergency relief workers.

Has anyone said that the only reason for their existence was to kill all Jews?

They cry foul at the same actions they carry out themselves over and over and over again.

How do you know there weren't IDF in there? How do you know the IDF didn't do it themselves and blame Iran? All the same pathetic arguments here as have been made to justify bombing hospitals over the last two years. Pathetic.

You think the world can't see the hypocrisy of the Israeli government?

How many hospitals did Israel attack on Lebanon?