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To wish those in Israel safety in these coming times

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mids2019 · 15/06/2025 04:09

Israel is a country at war and I know many will have links or family in that country so I think it appropriate to wish them safety in the coming days.

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Kakeandkake · 19/06/2025 21:39

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 21:27

Oh give over. Are you going over there to help out? Or do you just post about how awful someone is for not caring about yet another religious conflict?

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You said you dont give a fuck about Palestinians and similar many many times. That's very different to saying you don't care about a religious conflict.

Stripes56 · 19/06/2025 21:31

HellsBalls · 19/06/2025 21:25

@Stripes56 ”Do you using full stops between words doesn’t make them any more correct.”

Nor does saying genocide in every post make it any more true.

Maybe because the other posters thought you were dismissing their concerns given your apparent unawareness that alleged genocide doesn’t mean every last Gazan being killed by the IDF?

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 21:27

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Oh give over. Are you going over there to help out? Or do you just post about how awful someone is for not caring about yet another religious conflict?

HellsBalls · 19/06/2025 21:25

@Stripes56 ”Do you using full stops between words doesn’t make them any more correct.”

Nor does saying genocide in every post make it any more true.

UnderFloorboards · 19/06/2025 20:45

Dangermoo · 15/06/2025 13:54

That didn't take long.

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It happens every time on both sides. If someone shows sympathy for Palestinians, a poster will say, ‘don’t you care about Oct 7th’. Perhaps you have said that yourself. It seems inevitable on every thread.

UnderFloorboards · 19/06/2025 20:42

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PinkChaires · 19/06/2025 20:37

Nowayyousure · 15/06/2025 07:42

How long do.you think Iran has been funding the terrorist organisations that have been attacking Israel for years. This didn't 'start' a few days ago. 😕

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Funny, i remember israel attacking palestine prior to october 2023 being ignored many many times.

Stripes56 · 19/06/2025 20:28

It doesn’t require every Gazan to be killed or awaiting execution

Stripes56 · 19/06/2025 20:27

HellsBalls · 19/06/2025 20:08

Exactly. Alleged. Not even close.
A real genocide would mean every Gazan would have been bombed to death or now in interment camps, awaiting execution.

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😮

Do you using full stops between words doesn’t make them any more correct.

It’s probably good to check things online before making such definitive statements (which are clearly wrong 🫣)

definition for you:
“The legal term “genocide” refers to certain acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.”

How intent could apply to IDF action in Gaza:
We have heard intent from Knesset members
They have blocked food and other essential medicines

5 categories defined- 3 seem to apply to situation in Gaza

  • Killing members of the group
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part

Of course it alleged until proven by the case against Israel is being taken forward as there’s sufficient evidence to suggest probable genocide.

Here’s a link for you and how a Polish Jewish lawyer Raphael Lemkin led to it becoming enshrined in International Law after the holocaust:

https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocide

What is Genocide? - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Genocide as a term did not exist before 1944. Learn about its origins and legal definition.

https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocide

HellsBalls · 19/06/2025 20:08

HerNeighbourTotoro · 19/06/2025 17:58

"Alleged genocide"?
Wow, people like you do exist. Interesting and extremely ironic you criticise others for looking for an echo chamber.

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Exactly. Alleged. Not even close.
A real genocide would mean every Gazan would have been bombed to death or now in interment camps, awaiting execution.

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 20:04

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 19/06/2025 20:01

This is not really how international law works.

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Depends if all players are playing by the same rule book.

OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 19/06/2025 20:01

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:13

Yeah okay. Are you saying that Israel are not allowed to start bombing a country who wants to see the country destroyed?
I believe Israel has a right to fuck up any country that wants to destroy it. Party on and keep the west out of it

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This is not really how international law works.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 19/06/2025 17:58

mids2019 · 17/06/2025 08:56

I actually think the conflict in the middle East has backfired if the intention was to have an echo chamber about the alleged genocide in Gaza. The conflict in the region has spread and there a multiple of discussions to be had including the proximity of Iran to developing a nuclear weapon.

There are huge cries from lefty types that coverage of a conflict of huge international significance involving Israel is now dominating the news. Maybe some want this site to once again be 'a look at Gaza' echo chamber when now we have obviously a lot more complex situation where Hamas propaganda has lost its punch.

"Alleged genocide"?
Wow, people like you do exist. Interesting and extremely ironic you criticise others for looking for an echo chamber.

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 16:34

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:34

Apologies, my fat fingers were a too quick to press post 🤦‍♀️

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No worries x

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:34

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 16:31

I was referring to the other poster

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Apologies, my fat fingers were a too quick to press post 🤦‍♀️

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 16:31

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:30

And I’m okay with being demonised for not giving a flying fig.
Edited because I have dat fingers

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I was referring to the other poster

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:30

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 16:23

cringeworthy stuff

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And I’m okay with being demonised for not giving a flying fig.
Edited because I have dat fingers

dairydebris · 19/06/2025 16:29

Twiglets1 · 19/06/2025 16:26

It's times like this you miss the laugh reaction on MN.

I want one of these: 🙄

Twiglets1 · 19/06/2025 16:26

It's times like this you miss the laugh reaction on MN.

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 16:23

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:21

🤣🙄

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cringeworthy stuff

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:21

Mercurial123 · 19/06/2025 16:19

Netanyahu would be proud of you. Well done.

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🤣🙄

Mercurial123 · 19/06/2025 16:19

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:13

Yeah okay. Are you saying that Israel are not allowed to start bombing a country who wants to see the country destroyed?
I believe Israel has a right to fuck up any country that wants to destroy it. Party on and keep the west out of it

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Netanyahu would be proud of you. Well done.

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 16:13

Mercurial123 · 19/06/2025 15:39

It's not news for Israel either. They knew exactly how Iran would respond with the airstrikes. They want to bring the US into the war.

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Yeah okay. Are you saying that Israel are not allowed to start bombing a country who wants to see the country destroyed?
I believe Israel has a right to fuck up any country that wants to destroy it. Party on and keep the west out of it

Mercurial123 · 19/06/2025 15:39

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 15:18

https://news.sky.com/story/hezbollah-and-iran-poised-to-attack-israel-this-week-as-region-on-brink-of-dangerous-escalation-13196134

Maybe understand that this isn’t a new thing for Israel. Maybe all the pro Palestine fans have missed this bit of news.

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It's not news for Israel either. They knew exactly how Iran would respond with the airstrikes. They want to bring the US into the war.

Madcatdudette · 19/06/2025 15:18

ClosetBasketCase · 19/06/2025 13:19

Oh look, OP gets upset that the Isreali hospital gets hit when civillians are inside - question - were you as upset when isreal were bombing the palastinian hospitals in gaza? killing hundreds if not thousands of civillians, women and children in the process? no? then why the hell not?

https://news.sky.com/story/hezbollah-and-iran-poised-to-attack-israel-this-week-as-region-on-brink-of-dangerous-escalation-13196134

Maybe understand that this isn’t a new thing for Israel. Maybe all the pro Palestine fans have missed this bit of news.

Hezbollah and Iran 'poised to attack Israel this week' - as region on brink of dangerous escalation

The stage is set for a potential repeat of April's massive escalation when Iran launched hundreds of missiles in its first direct attack on Israel.

https://news.sky.com/story/hezbollah-and-iran-poised-to-attack-israel-this-week-as-region-on-brink-of-dangerous-escalation-13196134