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To wish those in Israel safety in these coming times

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mids2019 · 15/06/2025 04:09

Israel is a country at war and I know many will have links or family in that country so I think it appropriate to wish them safety in the coming days.

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Nowayyousure · 23/06/2025 13:42

1dayatatime · 20/06/2025 11:26

@HellsBalls

Or the false but emotive term of carpet bombing to describe the dropping of any bombs on Gaza. When Israel doesn't even have the type of aircraft required to perform mass bombing (B1,B2,B52)

Or the false but emotive term of apartheid to describe the relations between Israel and the West Bank.

Or replacing the word of "Jews"
with "Zionists" (which is then defined as however they wish), in order not to be seen as anti Semitic.

Happens all the time.

anotherlevel · 23/06/2025 08:54

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:15

Did anyone see how recently Israelis and the IDF were targeting a direct hit on a 'terrorist'. A video later emerged showing it was an elderly unwell man. The IDF couldn't really give a response on how they made this 'mistake'

That’s because they’ve run out of lies to cover up what they’re really doing.

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Dangermoo · 23/06/2025 08:36

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 23/06/2025 08:31

Facebook is thatta way ->

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Twiglets1 · 23/06/2025 06:17

mouthpipette · 22/06/2025 20:26

What, you mean apart from wishing Israel all the best in a fight against evil? @Dangermoo

Goodies and baddies, black hats and white hats, I guess it's easier not to see the nuances and the shades of grey and to realise that there is a case for both sides and to have to think about them and weigh them up.
Much easier just to fall into a single camp and repeat everything said by them, verbatim.

Look at the thread title.

mouthpipette · 22/06/2025 20:26

What, you mean apart from wishing Israel all the best in a fight against evil? @Dangermoo

Goodies and baddies, black hats and white hats, I guess it's easier not to see the nuances and the shades of grey and to realise that there is a case for both sides and to have to think about them and weigh them up.
Much easier just to fall into a single camp and repeat everything said by them, verbatim.

Dangermoo · 20/06/2025 17:40

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:36

This really is an attempt at deflection. Do you not have anything of substance to add if you disagree? Or is it just clichè soundbites you can contribute with?

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What, you mean apart from wishing Israel all the best in a fight against evil?

devourfeculence · 20/06/2025 17:40

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:35

If you and others didn't continuously deny them, then others wouldn't have to point it out.

Maybe you could try one one the 100+ threads about the topic.

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:36

Dangermoo · 20/06/2025 17:27

That really is a sign of desperation.

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This really is an attempt at deflection. Do you not have anything of substance to add if you disagree? Or is it just clichè soundbites you can contribute with?

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:35

If you and others didn't continuously deny them, then others wouldn't have to point it out.

Dangermoo · 20/06/2025 17:27

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:24

Denying IDF war crimes is never a good look.

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That really is a sign of desperation.

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:24

Dangermoo · 20/06/2025 17:23

Spamming on a wishing Israel safety thread, isn't a good look.

Denying IDF war crimes is never a good look.

Dangermoo · 20/06/2025 17:23

Spamming on a wishing Israel safety thread, isn't a good look.

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:23

Or the time they killed Hind Rajab and her family and the aid workers who tried to help them and then lied that they weren't there. But as usual their lies were caught out.

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:21

Or the time they murdered medics in cold blood and then buried them AND their ambulances to try and hide the evidence.

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:17

Or the time they killed all those aid workers by bombing their vehicles multiple times because one stupid IDF soldier thought one of the international aid workers bag was a gun.

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:15

Did anyone see how recently Israelis and the IDF were targeting a direct hit on a 'terrorist'. A video later emerged showing it was an elderly unwell man. The IDF couldn't really give a response on how they made this 'mistake'

Kakeandkake · 20/06/2025 17:14

dairydebris · 20/06/2025 17:07

I don't believe Zamir is on mumsnet to justify IDF targets to you I'm afraid.
I know that's surprising as there's a huge amount of untapped military experience, skill and insight to be found on these boards.
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He wouldn't be able to even if he was because they bomb indiscriminately.

Dangermoo · 20/06/2025 17:09

dairydebris · 20/06/2025 17:07

I don't believe Zamir is on mumsnet to justify IDF targets to you I'm afraid.
I know that's surprising as there's a huge amount of untapped military experience, skill and insight to be found on these boards.
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dairydebris · 20/06/2025 17:07

Babyboomtastic · 20/06/2025 16:33

If a lot of the bombing has been targeted, then why are the IDF targeting hospitals and health clinics (WHO say 654 attacks upto the end of 2024, UN 136 though over a shorter period). Bear in mind the IDF have only claimed that 2 of them have had Hamas underneath them.

From those numbers either:

  1. the IDF are deliberately targeting medical infrastructure
  2. the bombing is indiscriminate

'but Hamas' is only a potential excuse in 2 of these strikes.

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I don't believe Zamir is on mumsnet to justify IDF targets to you I'm afraid.
I know that's surprising as there's a huge amount of untapped military experience, skill and insight to be found on these boards.
🙄

Babyboomtastic · 20/06/2025 16:33

SharonEllis · 20/06/2025 13:43

Its about accuracy and a lot of the bombing has certainly been targetted. that's completely unarguable. Im afraid I havent monitored every one. Why do you care what is 'palatable' to me? These discussions are so tedious.

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If a lot of the bombing has been targeted, then why are the IDF targeting hospitals and health clinics (WHO say 654 attacks upto the end of 2024, UN 136 though over a shorter period). Bear in mind the IDF have only claimed that 2 of them have had Hamas underneath them.

From those numbers either:

  1. the IDF are deliberately targeting medical infrastructure
  2. the bombing is indiscriminate

'but Hamas' is only a potential excuse in 2 of these strikes.

HellsBalls · 20/06/2025 16:27

PaxAeterna · 20/06/2025 14:03

So they “targeted” 70% of the buildings, roads and farmland in Gaza? That’s nearly worse really.

Ok. Well I do see your point that it was done over a large amount of time.

The IDF are fighting house to house. Hamas were everywhere, moving from house to house.
Bombing a building that’s got Hamas in it inevitably leads to the surrounding houses getting the windows blown out, doors off etc.

Blame Hamas. They are not defending Gaza, they are getting it destroyed.
Hamas could stop this destruction today.
It’s not like they are going to win now, is it?

PaxAeterna · 20/06/2025 14:03

So they “targeted” 70% of the buildings, roads and farmland in Gaza? That’s nearly worse really.

Ok. Well I do see your point that it was done over a large amount of time.