Trump attacks BBC over Gaza misreporting

This is the BBC response which is quite clear. It seems like it's just Trump once again throwing his toys out of his pram.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce814ez7030o.amp

My point was a rrsponse to the post I was replying to

On what basis are the bbc supporting a terrorist organisation?

We shouldn’t take what Hamas say at face value but neither should we take what Israel say when it’s been proven to be false information at times and the state is current carrying out war crimes.
While Israel bans journalists from going into Gaza it will remain incredibly difficult to report on but what would be very, very dangerous is for them to not report on it.

You can be a terrorist and go one to be Israeli PM - fuuny old world.

They are not supporting
They are reporting in an unbiased way free from Government control

Just because some people don’t like the words they have chosen to use doesn’t mean they are doing anything wrong.
No one wants to read propaganda. ( well some might and do )
We want the truth free from inflammatory language.

How is reporting what's happening supporting a terrorist organisation? The BBC are not taking terrorist propaganda at face value. This claim is getting tired now. Why does BBC verify exist? To analyse the information and footage that is coming out of Gaza and report as accurately as possible. I'm sure if they were breaking any law they'd have been charged by now.

But it is controlled by the law. All media organisations have to comply with the law and it is illegal to support a designated terrorist organisation. Journalistic ethics would dictate not taking a terrorist organisations propaganda at face value.

However
The BBCs reporting is not and cannot be controlled by the Government
we are a democracy not a dictatorship

You don't think they terrorise the Gazan population? Do you know what they do to people who don't toe their party line?

That doesn't tally with what Twiglets said at all. She said the BBC have been proven wrong and are now changing the way they report. This doesn't seem to be the case according to the BBC and i cant find what Twiglets has said anywhere.

This was on the Times of Israel
But the BBC says the White House claims were not accurate and that it had not removed its story.
“The claim the BBC took down a story after reviewing footage is completely wrong. We did not remove any story and we stand by our journalism,” it says in a statement.
It notes that headlines giving varying death tolls are “totally normal” journalistic practice due to the story being “updated throughout the day with the latest fatality figures as they came in from various sources.”

Some interesting obfuscation about hamas on this thread. In the UK, hamas are a proscribed terrorist group, UK reporters, in the UK, are obliged to consider legal implications within the UK.

Israel does not let people into Gaza. Therefore they need to rely on trusted sources. Add to that the confusion given the state of Gaza “the fog of war” and no wonder things are not clear and change.

Every news report I've heard from the BBC states this.

Trump - is constantly caught lying and not correcting his lies.

IDF has been caught lying many times by many different people.

UN and aid agencies warned Israel and US about setting up food aid like they have - and low 3 days they've been opened people are shot at - but Isreal and US and blaming everyone else or denying it's happened - almost like they don't want to admit they fucked up and UN and aid agencies ones with experince in such situations were right.

I do think in recent years BBC reporting hasn't been a impartial as I think they once were. However they are updating their news reports with new information and are critical of their own reporting and here at least acknowledge where it's been wrong.

In mine and many other eyes despite their flaws they have way more credblity than Trump and current Israel government. Plus I do try and consume news from different sources these days - one from other cournties as well - as all news coverage has biases and holes in coverage and that's generally considered good practise - though US news is so polarized one side or the other and so opinion base it's pretty hard to actually watch.

Exactly!

Let’s face it, I don’t think we can ever listen to a trump spokesperson and take it at face value. At best they have regularly misled people, at worst they have knowingly lied.

I don’t think updating a live news story is really the gotcha being made out on this thread. The vast majority of news reports are like this, the liverpool incident will have various reports which were updated as information became more clear and widespread.

I guess one basic argument for classing Oct 7th as terrorism was that it was a militant organisation carrying out an attack on another land.
Are Hamas committing terrorism when they are in Gaza against an occupying foreign military? I don’t think that’s a given.

Well exactly
That’s exactly my point.
Natanyahu doesn’t want the world to know what’s really going on. Without independent reporters his followers and world leaders who do nothing can hang on to his propaganda and like Trump….deny

Nobody can verify anything on the ground, journalists aren’t currently allowed allowed into Gaza from any news organisation whatsoever, that’s the main issue on being able to report on what’s happening (or not).

It’s completely standard practice for online news stories to be updated as new information is received, it would go against standard journalism practices not to update the details - happens all the the with a live story and no story has been removed.

BBC statement here;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce814ez7030o.amp

The corporation said its coverage was updated with new figures throughout the day, which is "totally normal practice on any fast-moving news story".
The numbers were "always clearly attributed, from the first figure of 15 from medics, through the 31 killed from the Hamas-run health ministry to the final Red Cross statement of 'at least 21' at their field hospital," the statement said.
There are conflicting reports on what happened

Obviously there’s conflicting reports - journalists aren’t currently allowed into Gaza at all.

There should be more verified reports on the ground
Meanwhile
This from the ICRC at Rafah hospital.
Perhaps it would be more effective to see how many get to hospital after an event.
Nevertheless it’s clear the only way to stop all forms of potential propaganda or just mistakes is to have independent reporters on the ground

Bbc clarify a fast moving story- move on...Trump using it to further his agenda is no surprise

@Twiglets1 - even if the figure was 1 person killed, that was 1 too many.

And here you are quibbling about semantics, disgraceful.

Wondering if Trump will block another UN proposed resolution being voted on today.
If he does it again I think that speaks volumes.

Its here