How can you tell when Hamas has been eliminated ?

That’s infuriating.
Hopefully the ceasefire will be agreed soon- for the hostages and Palestinians, as well as those living in Israel.

I have read that there have been ongoing rocket attacks, the most recent I have read about was last week.

https://www.jns.org/palestinian-terrorists-in-gaza-launch-rockets-at-israel/

3 days ago at 7pm as far as I can see. At Ein HaShlosha and Nirim. Personally I don’t think this is the test, but facts are important and they have launched many rockets since April 3rd.

I haven't fully understood the reasons for not progressing to stage 2, and anyway I'm not sure inner motivations are always correctly reported on. I wish that both sides had been able to stick with the ceasefire though, the situation feels currently on a very dark path.

I'd imagine Israeli intelligence has a pretty good idea who Hamas currently is. And I imagine they know a lot more than we think they know.

I suppose elimination is when they no longer exist as a political entity with any power or influence in Gaza. Because enough of them have been killed, because they enter into some kind of deal that let's them and their families escape from the mess they've made, because a new leader or group arises with a genuine intent to find peace?

At the moment I think they're playing some sick game of Chicken, who blinks first. How far will Israel go? And watch their whole nation go down in flames. October 7th was the worst blunder of the century so far.

The best way out of this is for Hamas to surrender, return the hostages, remove the wind from the extreme Right's sails, elections to be held in Israel, and power to be removed from extremists on both sides.

For me, elimination means complete loss of power.

Current Israeli actions are more likely to make people join Hamas who otherwise wouldn't have

Unless those people don’t exist anymore? I’m not Israeli or Palestinian, I don’t have family/friends from either and I have no affiliation with either. In short, I’m not barracking for either as a ‘winner’. However, if I was either of them, at this point I’d be looking, once and for all to wipe out both current and future threats. That would include current supporters and potential future supporters, who are those likely to be angry enough about whatever’s going on now to take up arms or continue this somehow down the track. That’s a massive undertaking though and you would need to be bloody brutal to be successful. The only other strategy that’s not a short term fix is permanent negotiation with one side completely conceding, and that’s never going to happen here. You essentially have two people who believe they own the same thing, common sense says any truce is only ever going to be short lived.

‘Eliminating Hamas’ through warfare and starvation is a bonkers idea. Terror begets terror and this generation of traumatised Palestinian children will be the most fertile recruiting ground for Hamas and similar organisations that they’ve ever had.

Completely agree with this.

The current policy is the definition of insanity " doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Israel cannot bomb and starve an ideology, they have tried and it doesn't work. Until Palestine is an independent state the cycle will continue..

Current Israeli actions are more likely to make people join Hamas who otherwise wouldn't have.

Hang on a minute why does my comment which is negative about a man who is currently undergoing a trial for fraud, is facing into war crimes trials in any way indicate my support for Hamas.

How are the two linked?
Where did I say I believe Hamas?
It is possible not to be believe both of them.
To just be on the side of civilians.

Once again the narrative that criticism of Netanyahu, his government and the actions of the IDF is pro Hamas.
Disgusting

And yes I do believe he would have reneged on it because the world are watching but they don't care, they didn't care when he bombed refugee tents, murdered medics or created a man made famine.

Hamas will never be eliminated, there will always be a son, a nephew.. and even if in the future they go by a different name, the bloodthirsty hate will always be there.

Your question was what was Israel's definition.

But you believe Hamas………….

That upstanding organisation who just HAD to commit barbarism straight out of medieval times and take hundreds of civilians hostage including a baby and toddler, who they strangled with their bare hands while in captivity, then paraded their coffins as ‘prisoners of war’, to start a war to ‘free’ their people which caused the deaths of thousands of their people who they don’t actually care about or have any responsibility for.

It’s not like Gazans don’t have access to smart phones and WIFI, to video interactions with the IDF and broadcast them to the world is it?

Dp you seriously think Netanyahu could have reneged on his offer with the world watching?

Agree, by their actions Israel have solidified hatred rather than dissolving it. The Hamas attack was terrible, and Israel's response has been worse.

IMHO what Israel is doing is the opposite of destroying Hamas.
By the deliberate genocide of a group of people they are just creating more "terrorists".

Trust Netanyahu...

Laughable: talk about a deal with the devil. ( Actually I would trust them more)

How many are left?
Do we know?

Israel know exactly who the existing Hamas operatives were before Oct 7th and will have identified new recruits via tech like facial recognition. They will also be targeting the ‘innocent civilians’ who participated in Oct 7th.

I think people forget this is not a normal war with normal rules of engagement. The scum terrorists Israel is dealing with are not in designated non civilian areas to fight it out, and clearly identifiable as groups of soldiers, they are all over the place like rats literally popping up from sewers underground in the streets, hospitals, mosques, refugee camps etc, among throngs of people.

Shame they haven’t surrendered or come out of hiding from their tunnels/from behind civilians as this war would have been over a lot quicker.

I see this as a secondary factor to freeing the remaining hostages/bodies of hostages though.

No other country would have tolerated 58 hostages remaining out of 251 almost two years after an invasion,

Not a single Gazan has taken up Netanyahu’s offer from last year of $5 million and safe passage out of Gaza as to their location that we are aware of to date.

I would think that the IDF have intelligence that tells them where the ringleaders of Hamas are, and are working to eliminate them.

However Israel have said their intent is to illuminate Hamas
Not Hamas supporters who would be civilians

So is it Hamas and Civilians then because that’s not what they’ve been declaring to justify their actions