This is a religious war not a land war.

Apparently it's nothing to do with religion. Get rid of Christians as well as eradication of Jewish people. Stop pretending, it's the inconvenient truth.

Wow, a 90% decrease in Christians in Palestinian areas. Is that not religious cleansing

That doesn’t back up your statement. The initial ceasefire was a 3 phased approach, this was agreed by both sides. At the end of the first phase Israel refused to move on to the latter stages of the agreement.

The proposal post 1 March was different to what was in the original agreement.

But Isreal have rejected that. They’ve said the won’t agree to the release of hostages with the terms of stopping the war.

But Isreal have rejected that. They’ve said the won’t agree to the release of hostages with the terms of stopping the war.

What Hamas could have done is not start the current war in the first place.
What they could do now is release the remaining hostages and surrender.
Surely worth a try, at least if they actually want the war to stop?

From Wikipedia: On 1 March, the day the first phase of the ceasefire was scheduled to end, Hamas rejected an Israeli proposal to extend it to release more hostages. Hamas said the second phase should proceed as originally planned.

Netanyahu's office said that Israel endorsed a US plan to extend the Gaza truce for the Ramadan and Passover periods. Under this plan, half of the living and dead hostages would be released on the first day of the extended truce and the remaining hostages would be released at the end of the period if a permanent truce was reached.

His office said that the initial deal allowed Israel to resume war at any moment after 1 March if negotiations were deemed ineffective.

Following Hamas's refusal to accept the US ceasefire extension proposal, Israel ceased the entry of aid to Gaza the next day, 2 March.

So it's a bit more nuanced than just "Israel broke the ceasefire."
Israel resumed the air strikes at a time when the first phase of the ceasefire had expired and the second not yet begun. Had Hamas accepted the Israeli proposal to extend the first phase to release more hostages, Israel would not have ceased the entry of humanitarian aid or launched the airstrikes on March 18th. So both sides argue that it was the other side's fault.

Hamas now have another opportunity to pause the war under similar conditions to the one proposed back in March. Will Hamas agree this time I wonder or do they prefer to carry on with the war?

Clearly a ceasefire is meaningless to Israel, it’s been broken before only in March and would be broken again.

Well they could stop hiding and meeting in their tunnels under where lots of Palestinian civilians are, like under hospitals, that would help?

Like the latest top Hamas chief Mohammed Sinwar (and the second in command and their aides) - meeting in a tunnel under the European hospital which meant the IDF had to bomb the hospital to kill them.

They could agree to the current ceasefire proposal which would pause the war for 60 days to allow humanitarian aid to flow freely into the region and for diplomatic negotiations to replace the daily bloodshed.

I really don’t agree that Hamas can “stop” anything.
If Hamas completely disbanded a lot of this wouldn’t stop, Israel would make more moves into Palestine and Palestinian citizens would not just be allowed to live a quiet peaceful life.

You need to comprehend a post before lambasting it.
The poster said that the IDF is 20% Muslim.
This does not mean that 20% of the Muslim Israeli population is in the IDF.

20% of Muslims living in Israel absolutely do not serve in the IDF. In 2021 that number was around 600 and included Muslim Arabs (Palestinian citizens of Israel) and Bedouin who made up the majority of the number.

It's actually disgusting how many people are denying that ethnic cleaning of Palestinians is happening at the very least - and probably actually genocide (according to warnings from the international courts and the UN, as well as organisations that focus on genocide research and education). Honestly, what would you call the forced displacement, destruction of homes, wiping out of entire bloodlines of families, mass killings and buying in mass graves? What do you think of the Israeli politicians who openly make genodical statements on TV? I'm genuinely curious why you're so confident that it isn't ethnic cleansing, when literally every international aid organisation, NGOs, the UN, international courts say that it is. (And anyone with access to a free media and a modicum of critical thinking).

That was from the Christian Post

Ah yes, Palestinian Christians who are treated so well by Palestinian Muslims

'The Christian population in areas governed by the Palestinian Authority and Hamas has plummeted drastically by up to 90% in some communities, a new study suggests, attributing the decline to violence, discrimination and economic hardships that threaten the survival of Christianity in its historical heartland.
The Christian demographic in Palestinian territories has experienced a dramatic reduction over the past century. In 1922, Christians made up 11% of the population in geographical Palestine. By 2024, this number had dwindled to 1%, marking a nearly 90% decrease, according to a study conducted by the Israeli think tank Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs.

...The report attributes the decline in Bethlehem to systemic socio-economic hardships, instability and harassment by both Muslim Palestinians and the Islam-dominated Palestinian Authority.
"The mass exodus of the Christians risks undermining the survival of Christianity in its birthplace," the researchers conclude.
One Protestant clergy member living under the control of the PA said, "Christians feel unprotected due to the failure of the PA police to intervene on their behalf in confrontations with Muslims."'

People love to forget the Palestinian Christians because it ruins their convenient narrative of "Palestinians = bloody thirsty Muslims" - and therefore deserving of being wiped out.

Rather creative use of the word "understanding" there.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-expansion-israels-borders-during-jerusalem-day-celebrations

With respect to the Israelis some of the more hard line cabinet ministers are the most devoutly religous.

I think the inflammatory problem here is that Judaism in general in all its multiple facets will be conflated with views of sun sections of Judaism in Israeli society and this will have the sir c.f. Result of increasing anti semitism world wide as people are Jews not in Israel as a soft legitimate target in those who view the Gazan conflict as partly inspired by religion.

This religion based hatred is not taken seriously enough by some in this country where I fear Jew hate may be ignored at some levels. I think this is the reason what I fear anti Semitic views will sadly increase in the UK.

I agree that they’re all as bad as each other at this point. Always men, same as every war on going in the world now. The innocent women and children and other men that just want to live in peace but they are collateral damage. It’s abhorrent all of it and needs to stop.

Reported for pointing out what is correct? The whole war is based on religion and the fact that both religions see the land as their own and both sides want it for their people.

Of course it’s about Religion, then land by default, because both religions believe it’s their land and that’s what they are fighting over.

Both religion and land are important factors. I’m trying to see how this argument helps. If we agree with you that it’s religious then what follows? The Palestinians don’t need their land and can just go live in any Muslim country? Is that the argument?

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=baf9129c546c704f&q=Everything+happens+by+the+will+of+Allah+in+Arabic&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjBqOiw38yNAxWnW0EAHbrFJsEQ1QJ6BAgMEAE&biw=800&bih=1280&dpr=1.5

Every thing happens by the will of Allah so the only way Palestinians can reconcile the death toll and their cities' destruction is to fervently believe the destructible Gaza is a precursor to some sort of glorious future victory over Israel as if they don't then their faith has to be surely tested (or abandoned).

It is this ferevent religous belief I believe underpins Palestinians views that Israel has to be defeated as surely that has to be God's will and possibly have the Hamas fighters on October 7th a fantastical notion that they could win a battle against the IDF.

It's an interesting point and I think religion has to be some sort existential platform to inform Palestinian meaning in life after losing comprehensively in this war.

it must be incredibly difficult to reconcile everything happening because of God's will when being at the receiving end of aerial bombardment that has destroyed virtually all property in your land and has led to widescale discomfort. The only reconciliation of these two opposing points is to believe in some fantastical God inspired victory for the Palestnian people at some unknown future point which made all the sacrifice worthwhile.

the Palestinians are therefore maybe in a position where as a society they are willing to take a great deal of damage as the alternative is that they believe God has abandoned them.

The book contains facts and most importantly the lived experience of a British Jewish lady, long before this particular genocide started.

This aggression was being done before I was born and will still be happening when I'm gone.
Not one of the governments that are at war care enough about the innocent people that are caught up in the fighting. They don't care about the children and babies from both sides dying or being maimed.
Such a sad event that I can never see ending.