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Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

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Applenation · 24/05/2025 23:27

Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

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Moglet4 · 28/05/2025 07:39

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 01:40

Why hasn’t Egypt opened its border to allow at least women and children refuge from a war zone?

Have you all written to your MPs about that?

Anyway, just putting this here. No one, on a parenting site, has questioned how a mother of TEN children aged 12 and under manages to hold down a job as a paediatrician (I don’t think there’s much in the way of daycare in Gaza).

Especially when she wears a BURKA so is obviously part of a devout Muslim household and that must make it quite a challenge to do her job.

Are we to assume her husband, also a doctor, who drove her to work while leaving all those children at home alone (having been given notice to evacuate the area), did the childcare and she must have gone back to work quite soon after each successive birth?

I mean come on, put your hate of Israel aside for a second and try to use your logic and critical thinking skills instead of accusing people who DO actually use them of being bots which is slightly the pot calling the kettle black if you think about it (ah but then you’d have to use the skills above so a bit of a challenge).

My faith in humanity has been destroyed by people who are full of such hate for a long persecuted group of people that they will believe evil terrorist propaganda over all sense and logic, despite those terrorists live-streaming horrific atrocities that they gleefully carried out for all to see and sacrificing their own their own children for their fucked up ideology.

https://honestreporting.com/misleading-photos-raise-questions-about-gazan-doctor-who-lost-nine-children-in-israeli-strike/

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1926752553187803181

She probably managed it the same way women have done so for centuries- by leaving them in the care of the oldest ones and the other women in the family/community. She’s also a doctor so not as orthodox and strict as you imply.

Namechangedformyanswer · 28/05/2025 07:28

So is this Dr. Alaa al-Najjar in this
@Reuters
photo, a pediatrician who wears a niqab and is so strictly religious that she was allowed to train in medicine, and still had time to give birth to 10 children in little more than 11 years?

Because the media won't ask the questions. People rarely question. Interesting claims by the Honest John site, so many red flags. The story did its job. Is it true?

Namechangedformyanswer · 28/05/2025 07:21

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 01:40

Why hasn’t Egypt opened its border to allow at least women and children refuge from a war zone?

Have you all written to your MPs about that?

Anyway, just putting this here. No one, on a parenting site, has questioned how a mother of TEN children aged 12 and under manages to hold down a job as a paediatrician (I don’t think there’s much in the way of daycare in Gaza).

Especially when she wears a BURKA so is obviously part of a devout Muslim household and that must make it quite a challenge to do her job.

Are we to assume her husband, also a doctor, who drove her to work while leaving all those children at home alone (having been given notice to evacuate the area), did the childcare and she must have gone back to work quite soon after each successive birth?

I mean come on, put your hate of Israel aside for a second and try to use your logic and critical thinking skills instead of accusing people who DO actually use them of being bots which is slightly the pot calling the kettle black if you think about it (ah but then you’d have to use the skills above so a bit of a challenge).

My faith in humanity has been destroyed by people who are full of such hate for a long persecuted group of people that they will believe evil terrorist propaganda over all sense and logic, despite those terrorists live-streaming horrific atrocities that they gleefully carried out for all to see and sacrificing their own their own children for their fucked up ideology.

https://honestreporting.com/misleading-photos-raise-questions-about-gazan-doctor-who-lost-nine-children-in-israeli-strike/

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1926752553187803181

"because they needed a photo to go with the story of Alaa Al-Najjar, they didn’t bother checking its date, which goes back to December 2023"

Lots of things don't add up but there have been so many stories I don't think anyone checks details.

mids2019 · 28/05/2025 06:14

If there are war crimes we are setting a president that no military targets can be attacked if they are in civilian areas. It was obvious from the outset this was Hamas strategy to simply embed all their fighters in highly populated areas and dare Israel to attack them. There are thousands of Hamas fighters so where are the barracks so they can be targeted ?

On an other note most states at risk of war have air raid shelters. Hamas have refused to create air raid shelters despite having an extensive network of tunnels for their own fighters. Says a lot really.

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 01:40

Why hasn’t Egypt opened its border to allow at least women and children refuge from a war zone?

Have you all written to your MPs about that?

Anyway, just putting this here. No one, on a parenting site, has questioned how a mother of TEN children aged 12 and under manages to hold down a job as a paediatrician (I don’t think there’s much in the way of daycare in Gaza).

Especially when she wears a BURKA so is obviously part of a devout Muslim household and that must make it quite a challenge to do her job.

Are we to assume her husband, also a doctor, who drove her to work while leaving all those children at home alone (having been given notice to evacuate the area), did the childcare and she must have gone back to work quite soon after each successive birth?

I mean come on, put your hate of Israel aside for a second and try to use your logic and critical thinking skills instead of accusing people who DO actually use them of being bots which is slightly the pot calling the kettle black if you think about it (ah but then you’d have to use the skills above so a bit of a challenge).

My faith in humanity has been destroyed by people who are full of such hate for a long persecuted group of people that they will believe evil terrorist propaganda over all sense and logic, despite those terrorists live-streaming horrific atrocities that they gleefully carried out for all to see and sacrificing their own their own children for their fucked up ideology.

https://honestreporting.com/misleading-photos-raise-questions-about-gazan-doctor-who-lost-nine-children-in-israeli-strike/

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1926752553187803181

Gazan Doctor's Tragic Tale Raises Multiple Red Flags—Which Media Prefer to Ignore | HonestReporting

Who is Alaa Al-Najjar? According to Hamas, she is a doctor and the mother of nine children who were killed in an Israeli air strike on Friday (May 23),

https://honestreporting.com/misleading-photos-raise-questions-about-gazan-doctor-who-lost-nine-children-in-israeli-strike/

YourOnMute · 27/05/2025 22:50

I believe some of these must be bots. Otherwise my faith in humanity is utterly destroyed.
An Israeli Minister stated a few weeks ago that Gaza will be utterly destroyed. That's just one thing. A Minister.
Utterly destroyed.

AgingLikeGazpacho · 27/05/2025 22:02

mids2019 · 27/05/2025 07:20

The blitz on London was never described as genocide even by those who suffered. By definition air campaigns can never be truly accurate and civilians tragically lose their lives. This does not been people have been murdered as there was no deliberate attempt to kill these specific people. That is why we have to be so careful when using the word genocide as the immediate public connotation is with the Holocaust which indeed was a genocide.

Excessive collateral damage is a war crime, especially if it is disproportionate and not enough due diligence is done to minimise civilian deaths and destruction of civilian infrastructure. The concept of a war crime as we understand it didn't really exist in WW2, but under a modern lens the blitz could be considered as such.

As an aside and not to derail from the subject matter, but at least during the blitz children were able to be safely housed in the countryside. Where is such safety for Gazan children? 9 children lost their lives due to the IDF's flagrant disregard for Palestinian life.

Of course Hamas is at fault, yes antisemitism exists, but we still have a duty to call out injustices where they exist.

Martymcfly24 · 27/05/2025 21:44

mids2019 · 27/05/2025 20:54

Of the main stream press aren't allowed in then should we rely on Hamas?

Should we rely on that bastion of honesty and truth the IDF and Israeli Government?

mids2019 · 27/05/2025 20:54

Of the main stream press aren't allowed in then should we rely on Hamas?

TakeMe2Insanity · 27/05/2025 20:19

mids2019 · 27/05/2025 20:01

The children of course are innocent and the deaths are tragic. This does not take away from the fact Hamas fighters are being killed in large number and this is underpreorted. The overall narrative can look like the bombing is completely indsicriminate with the aim of just killing as many Palestinains as possible which it patently is not.

Well if that’s the case no one would know because unlike other wars, the main stream press isn’t allowed in Gaza.

Whatsinanamehey · 27/05/2025 20:09

The United Kingdom must impose sanctions on the Israeli government and its ministers and take steps to “prevent and punish genocide” in Gaza, according to a letter signed by more than 800 lawyers, academics and former judges.
The open letter to Prime Minister Keir Starmer on Monday called on the British government to take concrete action to halt the “serious violations of international law” being committed by Israel.
“Genocide is being perpetrated in Gaza or, at a minimum, there is a serious risk of genocide occurring,” the letter stated, adding that war crimes, crimes against humanity, and serious violations of international humanitarian law were also taking place.

mids2019 · 27/05/2025 20:01

The children of course are innocent and the deaths are tragic. This does not take away from the fact Hamas fighters are being killed in large number and this is underpreorted. The overall narrative can look like the bombing is completely indsicriminate with the aim of just killing as many Palestinains as possible which it patently is not.

TakeMe2Insanity · 27/05/2025 18:49

The deflection and genocide denial on this thread is disgusting. Shame on pro Israeli parrots.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 18:44

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 18:23

It is disingenuous to claim that this post is only about the children without any reference to the war in which they died.

The thread is in the conflict in the middle east section we don't need to be spoonfed on the context in which they died. You have come on this thread, from the beginning, to continually steer things away from the subject matter without once expressing any sadness for these children's deaths, and you call me disingenuous.

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 18:23

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 18:18

No, I read that post to be saying that Palestinians are not necessarily innocent, and the reference to the >900 dead soldiers was to demonstrate the truth of this.
What was the relevance of this on a thread about dead children? 900 soldiers killed in combat is pretty low for a conflict this intense.

I am not deflecting anything on this thread. I have not attempted to ignore the reality of Hamas I am well aware of it but you seem hell bent on ignoring the topic of this thread so I won't add to your attempt to change the topic any further so will stop engaging on this.

It is disingenuous to claim that this post is only about the children without any reference to the war in which they died.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 18:18

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 18:01

No, I read that post to be saying that Palestinians are not necessarily innocent, and the reference to the >900 dead soldiers was to demonstrate the truth of this. You are just looking for a villain by saying that the poster was saying that the children were not innocent which would be a ridiculous comment.

I would add that you are deflecting in your attempts to ignore the reality that Hamas started this war on October 07 through barbarism and rape.

No, I read that post to be saying that Palestinians are not necessarily innocent, and the reference to the >900 dead soldiers was to demonstrate the truth of this.
What was the relevance of this on a thread about dead children? 900 soldiers killed in combat is pretty low for a conflict this intense.

I am not deflecting anything on this thread. I have not attempted to ignore the reality of Hamas I am well aware of it but you seem hell bent on ignoring the topic of this thread so I won't add to your attempt to change the topic any further so will stop engaging on this.

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 18:16

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 27/05/2025 18:10

As said upthread, I was taught by one of the professors in the article above.

One of his lessons was the genocide denial playbook, and this is like, page one of that playbook.

As are many of the posts on this thread.

No, it is saying that people dying in war doesn't equal genocide unless certain conditions are met. Those conditions are not that people like you really really really really don't like one side and think it is genocide.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 27/05/2025 18:10

mids2019 · 27/05/2025 07:20

The blitz on London was never described as genocide even by those who suffered. By definition air campaigns can never be truly accurate and civilians tragically lose their lives. This does not been people have been murdered as there was no deliberate attempt to kill these specific people. That is why we have to be so careful when using the word genocide as the immediate public connotation is with the Holocaust which indeed was a genocide.

As said upthread, I was taught by one of the professors in the article above.

One of his lessons was the genocide denial playbook, and this is like, page one of that playbook.

As are many of the posts on this thread.

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 18:01

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 17:57

I really don't get what you mean
Deflecting

IDF under orders of the Israeli government bombed and killed those children, the poster suggested that not all victims are innocent so I'll wait for the poster to come back to answer my query as to which of the children aren't innocent

No, I read that post to be saying that Palestinians are not necessarily innocent, and the reference to the >900 dead soldiers was to demonstrate the truth of this. You are just looking for a villain by saying that the poster was saying that the children were not innocent which would be a ridiculous comment.

I would add that you are deflecting in your attempts to ignore the reality that Hamas started this war on October 07 through barbarism and rape.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 17:57

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 17:54

I really don't get what you mean.

I really don't get what you mean
Deflecting

IDF under orders of the Israeli government bombed and killed those children, the poster suggested that not all victims are innocent so I'll wait for the poster to come back to answer my query as to which of the children aren't innocent

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 17:54

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 17:54

Nice try

I really don't get what you mean.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 17:54

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 17:50

The relationship between the post and the death of Dr Alaa al-Najjar 9 children, is that it is pointing out that Hamas exist. The relevance of Hamas's existence is that they started this war, in which those children died.

Nice try

Biscuitsformeandyou · 27/05/2025 17:50

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 17:15

What's this post got to do with the bombing and death of Dr Alaa al-Najjar 9 children? Just a disgraceful derail attempt.

wish us to view every Palestinian as a victim which is patently not true
So which of the dead children that this thread is discussing are not victims?

The relationship between the post and the death of Dr Alaa al-Najjar 9 children, is that it is pointing out that Hamas exist. The relevance of Hamas's existence is that they started this war, in which those children died.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 27/05/2025 17:46

AIBUHere · 27/05/2025 17:21

Please explain how what I’ve posted is heinous rhetoric.

Are you saying the videos I posted are not true?

Why is showing an, albeit very inconvenient, truth regarded as a ‘stoop so low’ in your mind?

Do you not wish to discuss this then?

I would say it should be a very important discussion point for people who care about the lives of Palestinian children.

I do, don’t you?

Would you care if British Christians indoctrinated their children to want to fight and kill immigrants from other religions, and openly said they would sacrifice them, because it’s their land?

Where are your credible sources that Palestinian parents are sacrificing their children? And no a few YouTube videos will not suffice. I would also suggest you look up what martyrdom means in the Muslim faith because I don't think it means what you think it does.

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