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Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

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Applenation · 24/05/2025 23:27

Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

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YourOnMute · 29/05/2025 16:31

On TV Jon Snow has a recent interview where he questioned an Israeli politician (I think) over boys being shot (shot on purpose that is, targeted shooting). If you'll accept that because the interviewee couldn't deny it.
But a quick google shows: A 12 year old was also shot in April in a public space. Over a hundred were shot in public awaiting food in February 24, another person was shot in a public square in January 24. The paramedics shot. Journalists wearing their blue Press vests.
Israel admitted shooting a teenager in April.
I see most on SM and I'll dox myself (if I share from sm)...but they're there. And quite easy to find.
The poor people starving were shot recently as well. Shot on purpose. Shot into.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 29/05/2025 16:26

Biscuitsformeandyou · 29/05/2025 16:11

Can you please specify what targeted action you mean and what evidence?

Hi there look at my last post just a few posts down, links to lots of testimonials from international Doctors. I can see other people have posted similar evidence.

Biscuitsformeandyou · 29/05/2025 16:11

Insanityisnotastrategy · 29/05/2025 07:42

Absolutely terrible. I've done a complete 180 on my support for Israel, there is just too much evidence of this kind of targeted action, and the posters who continually deny and deflect are sounding more and more unconvincing.

Clearly a complex situation but how anyone fails to see the clear evidence for these crimes is beyond me.

Can you please specify what targeted action you mean and what evidence?

Biscuitsformeandyou · 29/05/2025 16:09

However much you may support the Palestinians, please take into account that Hamas are an evil fascist entity who oppress their own people and dominate all aspects of civil society. Doctors, kids and other people, even if they (or their parents) are not Hamas supporters will still know what to they are required to say...

This is a propaganda war.

AIBUHere · 29/05/2025 15:42

YourOnMute · 29/05/2025 09:56

There are videos showing IDF soldiers killing (sniping) children on the street.
There are thousands of shot women and children entering hospitals. Or dying.
Settlers in Jerusalem yesterday and/or the day before were singing we will rape your women and kill your children.
Come on. The evidence is filmed...the evidence in hospitals is verified by non Palestinian medical staff. The ICC has a warrant for war crimes.
There is no justification for this. For all the war crimes committed. It's not me saying this, but the ICC.

Can you link to a video please because I’ve searched and cannot find any video showing the IDF ‘sniping’ children in the street.

Much appreciated.

AIBUHere · 29/05/2025 15:40

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YourOnMute · 29/05/2025 10:04

Just heard on the radio there that 20+ new settlements have been announced by Israel in the occupied West Bank, which is illegal under international law. So that explains the attacks on Palestinians in those areas and the vile demonstrations I just mentioned in Jerusalem.
Again, not just me, this is illegal under international law.
Never again I thought it was supposed to be.

YourOnMute · 29/05/2025 09:59

And sniping means.... deliberately targeting. It's not random. That why it IS sniping.

YourOnMute · 29/05/2025 09:56

Municipal · 28/05/2025 19:26

The Drs treating patients in the hospitals are reporting that. That’s the evidence. They are seeing mainly children and women. Sniped.

Not caught in cross-fire but targeted.

There are videos showing IDF soldiers killing (sniping) children on the street.
There are thousands of shot women and children entering hospitals. Or dying.
Settlers in Jerusalem yesterday and/or the day before were singing we will rape your women and kill your children.
Come on. The evidence is filmed...the evidence in hospitals is verified by non Palestinian medical staff. The ICC has a warrant for war crimes.
There is no justification for this. For all the war crimes committed. It's not me saying this, but the ICC.

greencartbluecart · 29/05/2025 07:46

It also awful I want to hide this thread every time the title comes up - but I can’t bring myself to hide this thread as we shouldn’t hide from this - it feels disrespectful

it’s so awful

Insanityisnotastrategy · 29/05/2025 07:42

Absolutely terrible. I've done a complete 180 on my support for Israel, there is just too much evidence of this kind of targeted action, and the posters who continually deny and deflect are sounding more and more unconvincing.

Clearly a complex situation but how anyone fails to see the clear evidence for these crimes is beyond me.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 29/05/2025 01:30

Biscuitsformeandyou · 28/05/2025 19:28

  1. How do they know targeted? 2. How do they know that the perpetrator wasn't Hamas?

83% of US medics have encountered kids shot in the head and the chest. there are countless accounts from international medics where they said that the dead children were hit in the heart and the head - witnesses said that it was Israeli snipers - how is it these well trained snipers hit them precisely in the heart and the head by accident. An Irish surgeon who recently returned to Ireland talked about a family that was annihilated by fire from an apache helicopter - again precise shots on children. No one accidentally shoots that many kids.

A few quotes and sources-

"We [were] operating on children who would say: 'I was lying on the ground after a bomb had dropped and this quadcopter came down and hovered over me and shot me.'
"That's clearly a deliberate act and it was a persistent act - persistent targeting of civilians day after day." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7893vpy2gqo.amp

“The Canadian doctor’s heart sank. These were not the first children treated by Alvi who she was told were targeted by Israeli soldiers, and she knew the damage a single high-calibre bullet could do to a fragile young body.
“They were not able to talk, paraplegic. They were literally lying down as vegetables on those beds. They were not the only ones. I saw even small children with direct sniper shot wounds to the head as well as in the chest. They were not combatants, they were small children,” said Alvi.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

“The doctor went on to claim that Israeli snipers are deliberately shooting children in Gaza, citing his observation of two children who were shot twice. "No child gets shot twice by mistake," he said.”

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/t%C3%AAte-%C3%A0-t%C3%AAte/20241029-us-doctor-claims-israeli-snipers-target-child-in-gaza-no-child-gets-shot-twice-by-mistakea

“Most of the cases we treated were women and children, and particularly disturbing were the children with a single injury, a bullet to the head, which was clearly the result of deliberate sniper fire. Indeed, 30 UK doctors and nurses who had worked in Gaza last year wrote to Keir Starmer in August stating that they had regularly seen evidence of the deliberate targeting of children (as did 99 US health workers who wrote a similar letter to President Joe Biden in October).”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/02/surgeon-gaza-children-britain-sniper-fire-drones-labour-arms-israel

Prof Nizam Mamode giving evidence to MPs

Gaza surgeon describes drones targeting children - BBC News

Children lying injured in Gaza were picked out and shot by quadcopters, a senior doctor tells MPs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7893vpy2gqo.amp

AgingLikeGazpacho · 28/05/2025 21:19

sualipa · 28/05/2025 18:11

In a searing address to the UN Security Council meeting on the Middle East and Gaza, American trauma surgeon Dr. Feroze Sidhwa delivered a first-hand account of Gaza's collapsing healthcare system, drawing from his two medical missions to Khan Younis. "I am not here as a policymaker, but as a physician bearing witness to the deliberate destruction of healthcare, the targeting of my colleagues, and the erasure of a people," he stated, describing surgeries performed on filthy floors without anaesthesia and children dying from preventable causes due to Israel's blockade of medical supplies. With haunting detail, he recounted treating pregnant women "whose pelvises had been obliterated and their foetuses cut in two," and revealed that 83% of American medics in Gaza reported seeing children shot in the head or chest. "This is not system failure - it has been systematically dismantled through violations of international law," he emphasised, condemning the man-made famine now killing more civilians than bombs. His testimony peaked with the March 18 mass casualty event at Nasser Hospital, where 221 trauma patients arrived in one morning - 90 dead on arrival, nearly half children - an onslaught no besieged health system could withstand. "Parents memorise their children's clothing to identify remains," he said, exposing the war's psychological toll: nearly half of Gaza's children are now suicidal, asking, "Why didn't I die with my family?" Dr. Sidhwa implored the Council to enforce seven measures, including an arms embargo, calling their inaction "a testament to collapsed conscience" as Gaza's last doctors and a generation of Palestinians face annihilation. "You cannot claim ignorance," he concluded, "when children no longer want to live.

Children being shot in the head and chest stood out to me here. How can so many be shot if purely in accidental cross fire? If true it sounds like they have been wilfully targeted or injured through a callous machine gunning of anyone within range?

Biscuitsformeandyou · 28/05/2025 19:28

Municipal · 28/05/2025 19:26

The Drs treating patients in the hospitals are reporting that. That’s the evidence. They are seeing mainly children and women. Sniped.

Not caught in cross-fire but targeted.

  1. How do they know targeted? 2. How do they know that the perpetrator wasn't Hamas?
Municipal · 28/05/2025 19:26

The Drs treating patients in the hospitals are reporting that. That’s the evidence. They are seeing mainly children and women. Sniped.

Not caught in cross-fire but targeted.

Biscuitsformeandyou · 28/05/2025 19:23

Municipal · 28/05/2025 18:16

Why are they targeting children and pregnant women?

They are not. What gives you the right to throw such accusations around while screaming bloody blue murder if somebody claims that some of the Palestinians involved may be not innocent (I am not referring to the children). Stop 🛑

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 28/05/2025 18:29

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Municipal · 28/05/2025 18:16

Why are they targeting children and pregnant women?

sualipa · 28/05/2025 18:15

Here’s the doctor mentioned above. His life’s work is dedicated to humanitarian efforts, especially in the conflicts we’re so often told we should care about too.

Dr. Feroze Sidhwa is a general, trauma, and critical care surgeon in California. He is also a humanitarian surgeon, having worked most extensively in Palestine, but also in Ukraine, Haiti, Zimbabwe, and Burkina Faso. He most recently volunteered at the European Hospital in Khan Younis, Gaza from March 25-April 8, 2024 with the World Health Organization, and again from March 3-April 1, 2025 with American NGO MedGlobal. Feroze has written and spoken extensively about surgical humanitarian work, the United States’ role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the political consequences of medical relief work. He approaches the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a secular American and as a humanitarian physician.

sualipa · 28/05/2025 18:11

In a searing address to the UN Security Council meeting on the Middle East and Gaza, American trauma surgeon Dr. Feroze Sidhwa delivered a first-hand account of Gaza's collapsing healthcare system, drawing from his two medical missions to Khan Younis. "I am not here as a policymaker, but as a physician bearing witness to the deliberate destruction of healthcare, the targeting of my colleagues, and the erasure of a people," he stated, describing surgeries performed on filthy floors without anaesthesia and children dying from preventable causes due to Israel's blockade of medical supplies. With haunting detail, he recounted treating pregnant women "whose pelvises had been obliterated and their foetuses cut in two," and revealed that 83% of American medics in Gaza reported seeing children shot in the head or chest. "This is not system failure - it has been systematically dismantled through violations of international law," he emphasised, condemning the man-made famine now killing more civilians than bombs. His testimony peaked with the March 18 mass casualty event at Nasser Hospital, where 221 trauma patients arrived in one morning - 90 dead on arrival, nearly half children - an onslaught no besieged health system could withstand. "Parents memorise their children's clothing to identify remains," he said, exposing the war's psychological toll: nearly half of Gaza's children are now suicidal, asking, "Why didn't I die with my family?" Dr. Sidhwa implored the Council to enforce seven measures, including an arms embargo, calling their inaction "a testament to collapsed conscience" as Gaza's last doctors and a generation of Palestinians face annihilation. "You cannot claim ignorance," he concluded, "when children no longer want to live.

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Kindatired · 28/05/2025 17:07

Posters should listen to Dr Ali, uncle of the children who has just taken part in an in-depth interview with Joe Duffy on RTE Liveline radio programme. His sister asks only 2 things, the return of the last 2 bodies of her children who are buried under the rubble rotting so they can be buried with their siblings and prayers for her family. Her brother, who is a doctor in Sligo for years, has condemned the taking of civilian hostages and called for an end to violence. He does not condemn the Jewish people and calls for a peaceful solution. He has condemned the targeting of children , elderly and healthcare workers, vital infrastructure such as health facilities and water plants.

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 12:45

So you are refusing to answer my questions then?

You can just admit it instead of making false allegations.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:32

I am not going to engage with your hate speech any further.

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:30

How much islamophobic hate speech will mumsnet allow on here? About a woman who has lost nine of her children?

Some people are so so ignorant and all they are doing is showing themselves up.

Wearing a niqab which is a face covering does NOT symbolise extremist practicing of Islam. The ignorance is astounding. Would you believe if I told you I know teachers who cover their faces with the niqab who work in this country? Very good teachers too. They just don't wear it whilst at work. And NO the entire area had not evacuated. Why are you spreading lies?

4/5 of Gaza has been declared an evacuation zone and many have not evacuated at a moments notice because they have nowhere to go. Your constant attempts to put blame on the parents for the deaths of their children is terrible and dehumanising and on display for all to see.

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2025 12:23

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 12:05

Precisely, it really does them no favours but they persist, as we can guess why.

Yep.

Same as the victim blaming post above.