Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

I don't think it has actually.

I see you are one of the many that like to get their news from Hamas-run authorities and then don't question that it could be wrong.

It's true that we can't believe what the IDF say unquestioningly but not many were questioning what came out of the Hamas media were they?

But at least one hospital was not and an Israeli Minister couldn't deny this evidence. So they are all just bombed then.

Like the famous quote: well they wouldn't say that, wouldn't they?

Oh if the IDF said it then it absolutely must be true.

definitely useful idiots for Hamas.
There are no useful idiots for Hamas on this thread

Where has it been confirmed as false news?

And this has now been confirmed as completely false news
It hasn't been confirmed either way yet. There is no clarity on what happened and by whom

I have no idea and neither do you.

And this has now been confirmed as completely false news. Why are people so quick to jump on anything anti Israel and spread it so widely?

So who was the terrorist that was so high ranking that the IDF felt forced to sacrifice the lives of 9 innocent children. What is his name? Of what crimes is he guilty? Did they get more than one? Why haven’t they released the details of outcome of what they obviously claim is a targeted attack? The parents are not Hamas ( like 10 kids, work, clinic pharmacy we’re expected to believe they had a side line in terrorism?)

Hospitals lose their protection if they are used for military purposes. The leader of Hamas was recently killed when Israel bombed the grounds of the European Hospital where he had a base. Hamas's actions in building these bases intentionally and recklessly endanger Palestinians. They know that people will blame Israel regardless.

The IDF has categorically denied any involvement in the alleged incident. If it happened, it was probably Hamas.

The rules on MN about why posts get deleted are actually pretty clear and fair. On this board, most of the posts that have got deleted I would guess are because of personal attacks or hate speech.

Too many post deletions lead to a person getting banned from the website.

Debate politely or at least non aggressively and people can express opinions on the actions of both sides in the war as much as they want to without getting "wiped off MN"

Unfortunately you will have to be mindful what you write or agree with on this thread, many people have found themselves to have been completely wiped off MN without any explanations. Go figure. You just have to be supine and agree the narrative of 'Self defence' or face explosion without a message, email or any recourse. #Democracy
#Groupthink #WarIsPeace

It turns out that there is literally nothing that Israel can do that would see the most ardent of MN supporters criticise them.

He has yes. I heard also that Italy has offered medical care for Adam the last remaining child. If he's stable enough to leave and gets permission to leave.

The IDF had sufficient intelligence to know that these 9 children were at home- it was their family home over the shop and in “self defence” it burned these children alive, blew their brother and father up leaving them with life changing injuries. Yet their mum has not called for revenge. As their dad lies in a hospital bed, their uncle says he does not want revenge on the Jewish people.

This. They're not bombing 'blind'; they have sufficient intelligence that they would know this was a house with ten children and two doctors. It's just unspeakable. I thought they supposedly provided warnings and dropped dummy bombs before the real ones anyway? Tbh that narrative is now frayed beyond credulity. Apparently the husband has now died, too.

You're right. People getting aid is the most important thing. Please God people will get aid they need.

Also - and forgive me if I'm incorrect - but I think the default position for humanitarian aid is that everyone in need is to be given it - bit like the Hippocratic oath, you provide care.
Also didn't Israel say that it needed this new humanitarian agency because only IT could determine who was connected to Hamas, but it turns out now this is not the case and it needs to fire into civilians for it's protection. Right.

The GHF are providing good though that is undeniable which is needed. I think there is an interesting legal argument whether aid needs to be delivered by the UN or US/Israel. It is hard to argue that if people are hungry carrying boxes of food away is a good thing.

@mids2019 You are correct I believe in stating that the actions of the Israeli government and IDF are motivated largely by a desire for revenge.
They cannot kill every last penny pusher in the entire Hamas led administration - every tax clerk, every traffic policeman, every fixer of pot holes , every teenager who gave a thumbs up to a social media post, without putting the civilians into concentration camps and sealing off the enclave. So this is what has started now- displacement into concentration camps in the hope that “voluntary” immigration will follow.
Is this self defence? I think not.
The IDF had sufficient intelligence to know that these 9 children were at home- it was their family home over the shop and in “self defence” it burned these children alive, blew their brother and father up leaving them with life changing injuries. Yet their mum has not called for revenge. As their dad lies in a hospital bed, their uncle says he does not want revenge on the Jewish people .

And these people were fired on from a tank.

Not sure what danger armed civilians could present to a tank. Also not sure what kind of arms people could carry on a reduced frame due to malnutrition, and considering they would be carrying their green Gaza ID card and bags and boxes to carry the food they thought they might get. And supporting children and elderly people to get there. Including carrying babies, which was such a risk to Israeli safety that a woman was shot in the last few days in just this position.

As an aside I learned yesterday that Palestinians have different types of ID cards depending on where they were born, which means some married couples can't live together, they have limitations on movement etc. these ID status determine their level of rights.
I never knew this before.

How do we know the Palestinians killed near the food station weren't armed and presented a clear and prenatal. danger to staff? I think some of the looters that ransacked warehouses were armed. Maybe more facts will be forthcomong.