Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

I suspect that the IDF simply has not told him. I know you won't believe this, but Israel doesn't really prioritise this type of media handling. But he was terrible even taking that into account.

I don't know if you are bring deliberately obtuse in order to convince me a random article you found online is proof of your claims. But if you are, its not working.

You made this claim

"Somebody filmed that footage from within the Gaza Strip. That person is affiliated with Hamas. The Gazans being interviewed would have known it is for foreign consumption."

Yet you have no proof.

So it is your opinion, nothing more. Like i said already.

No, i thought the Israeli spokesman was brilliant. He parroted everything Krishnan expected him to say and couldn't answer any questions Krishnan put to him eg. If the IDF opened fire on people trying to get aid because these people were acting in a threatening manor, did the people have weapons? No? Then what exactly constitutes a threatening manor? Of course the spokesman couldn't answer because there is no answer.

Ok. What would constitute proof in your eyes? If I shared an internal memo by Hamas admitting all of this. I came close by sharing an article from an Arab website.

Not much point debating this further with you there appears to be a lack of some basic criteria thinking skills

Again, this is your opinion based on finding an article that supports your views.
That isn't proof.

The thing is I have not heard anyone say “oh Assad is a great man” if they did I would be posting data and links to articles that show that he is a war criminal who brutally murdered his own people. If anyone said “all the rebels in Syria are great” I would explain how there are 20+ different groups and some of them are pretty awful too. Happy to talk about Syria and the blatant human rights abuses there, the complexity of the situation etc…

Again if anyone defended the Taliban in Afghanistan or indeed the British and US governments who abandoned people to the Taliban, many of whom had been employed by the UK and US and were certain to be executed. Honestly I have had huge rants and cried tears for those poor people and am still very angry at how the west abandoned them.

It is largely agreed in the west (apart from a small number of extremists) that Assad is a criminal, the Taliban are criminals etc… we don’t have boards dedicated to debating it as we would all just be agreeing with each other. The figures from these conflicts are not disputed, the murdered are universally recognised as innocent victims. The thousands of images of people tortured to death in Syria was never called fake or Syriawood. The problem lies with Israel’s manipulation of the media, shutting off a war zone to international press and then denying the testimony of doctors, amputees, UN workers, journalists, victims… The problem lies in justifying the death of children, debating the death tolls and attacking the UN, Amnesty International, most major newspapers. Israel is committing war crimes and spending millions on gaslighting anyone who calls them out on it.

The thing is I have not heard anyone say “oh Assad is a great man” if they did I would be posting data and links to articles that show that he is a war criminal who brutally murdered his own people. If anyone said “all the rebels in Syria are great” I would explain how there are 20+ different groups and some of them are pretty awful too. Happy to talk about Syria and the blatant human rights abuses there, the complexity of the situation etc…

Again if anyone defended the Taliban in Afghanistan or indeed the British and US governments who abandoned people to the Taliban, many of whom had been employed by the UK and US and were certain to be executed. Honestly I have had huge rants and cried tears for those poor people and am still very angry at how the west abandoned them.

It is largely agreed in the west (apart from a small number of extremists) that Assad is a criminal, the Taliban are criminals etc… we don’t have boards dedicated to debating it as we would all just be agreeing with each other. The figures from these conflicts are not disputed, the murdered are universally recognised as innocent victims. The thousands of images of people tortured to death in Syria was never called fake or Syriawood. The problem lies with Israel’s manipulation of the media, shutting off a war zone to international press and then denying the testimony of doctors, amputees, UN workers, journalists, victims… The problem lies in justifying the death of children, debating the death tolls and attacking the UN, Amnesty International, most major newspapers. Israel is committing war crimes and spending millions on gaslighting anyone who calls them out on it.

https://thearabweekly.com/hamas-signals-intent-gag-media

Hamas has an extensive media operation. They employ cameramen, have relationships with international outlets, and actively produce content for foreign consumption. They run the Ministry of Information, issue permits, and monitor all filming. No one films for broadcast without their knowledge.

For Gaza footage to appear on UK channels, it goes through established channels - either Hamas's own media networks, or local stringers who work with Hamas permission and oversight.

Hamas facilitate access to grieving families and survivors specifically because they want this footage broadcast internationally.

The alternative would require believing that UK television channels are somehow receiving footage from Gaza through channels that bypass the governing authority. That's impossible given the security situation and Hamas's documented control over the territory.

1. For some reason, people feel compassion for the Palestinians killed by Israel but not for Palestinians killed in Syria. Or people dying in Yeman. Or so on. It is almost as if they care only when Jews do it.
2. The reporting should apply some journalistic integrity rather than just broadcast Hamas propaganda as Channel 4, for example, did today.

There is no proof, it is purely your opinion.

Which means nothing.

Well this is his credentials

David Mencer, a former director of Labour Friends of Israel, described himself on his LinkedIn page as a "communications specialist".[1] By March 2024 he was an Israeli Government Spokesman[2], often reported in the commercially-controlled media, where he "expressed grief" about the killing of aid workers by an Israeli airstrike in April 2024.[3]

It's clearly getting harder and harder for him to lie convincingly

They asked him whether the Palestinians were armed. Reasonable question. Unbelievable he couldn't answer. Then says that Israel complies by international law not channel four law. An absolute shambles

You want me to prove that the person filming the footage was affiliated with Hamas?

He's the Israeli government public spokesperson David Mencer he's always on different media channels. Google him he's not some blow in that hasn't been briefed fgs

So rude. You do yourself no favours, do you?

And proof of what you claim is true would be appreciated?

So juvenile....

Somebody filmed that footage from within the Gaza Strip. That person is affiliated with Hamas. The Gazans being interviewed would have known it is for foreign consumption.

So tell me how it is not Hamas progaganda?

I suspect that the IDF simply has not told him. I know you won't believe this, but Israel doesn't really prioritise this type of media handling. But he was terrible even taking that into account.

Hope you all seen the interview on ch4 news tonight with Krishnan Guru-Murthy and an spokesman for Israel. Krishnan absolutely roasts him. The spokesman is initially but hamas but hamas...then eventually saying should Israel be treated differently because it has a jewish population. Exactly the sort of rhetoric we hear on here all the time.

It's well worth a watch, it was on ch4 at 7pm.

Oh right so he didn't realise then...

Pull the other one, its got bells on.

Ha, so now ch4 news is broadcasting hamas propaganda...this is exactly what the spokesman tried saying to KG-M and he completely closed him down.

I recommend watching this interview, excellent journalism by an experienced professional.