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Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

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Applenation · 24/05/2025 23:27

Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

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Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 20:14

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 20:11

Fabulous books and very definite parallels. It’s when one group sees the other as ‘less than’ or ‘the other’ they justify murder and forced starvation.

Absolutely brilliant books and it humanizes the crowds we see at aid centres and swarming together. We are too used to the images of people with bowls out desperate and have become desensitized.

Every single one of them has a story that deserves to be told.

quantumbutterfly · 05/06/2025 20:13

sualipa · 05/06/2025 14:51

Let's hope Greta makes a difference - they wouldn't assasinate her surely ?

www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-856590

The comments under the article are interesting.

Anyone know how far away she is?

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 20:11

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 20:00

Funny you should mention that my 10 yr old daughter has just finished the Under the Hawthorn Tree trilogy about the Irish famine and we have drawn parallels with the experience of the main characters in the book and the Palestinian people. Especially talking about the horror if the soup kitchens and the current issues around the supply of aid and the controlling nature of the colonizers.

So if in 13 years she decides to do something like this I will probably yes try and stop her because I love her so much and want nothing bad to happen but I would be very very proud of her .

Fabulous books and very definite parallels. It’s when one group sees the other as ‘less than’ or ‘the other’ they justify murder and forced starvation.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 20:11

ssd · 05/06/2025 19:53

I hope they can , they are extremely brave and courageous.

They won’t be allowed to enter Gaza and everyone knows that.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 20:09

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 19:46

Err not just a ‘famine’ though, an active war zone with a ‘genocidal, monstrous, evil, fascist’ Army on one side and barbaric gang raping, head chopping, dismembering, shooting rampaging, baby kidnapping, terrorist organisations (and civilian partipants), on the other.

Would you advise your 23 year old daughter or any one you knew it was ‘a good thing’ to deliberately get caught up in that.

I personally would have advised against it but that’s just me.

In fairness both Hamas and the IDF are rapists who dismember people. The thing is you are acting like what people have to fear is Hamas - Hamas would not see a freedom flotilla as the enemy, Israel on the other hand have form for bombing them and quite recently set one on fire in international waters. I would be terrified for my child that Israel would blow them up or shoot them. Look at the civilian body count in Gaza. I would also be dead proud of her.

The thing I find mad is that so many pro Israel posters act like Israel have a right to control what goes in and out of Gaza. Boats carrying aid should be allowed land in Gaza, it does not belong to Israel. Similarly Israel should not be controlling its borders - it is not their country, though they have form for moving the boarders and stealing more and more land. The people firing bombs, shooting from quadcopters, from apache helicopters, the people sending snipers to shoot children in the head and the thorax are the IDF. They are the people I would be worried about. During this war several aid workers have been killed, tons of medics all at the hands of the IDF. I would fear the IDF for sure.

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 20:00

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 19:46

Err not just a ‘famine’ though, an active war zone with a ‘genocidal, monstrous, evil, fascist’ Army on one side and barbaric gang raping, head chopping, dismembering, shooting rampaging, baby kidnapping, terrorist organisations (and civilian partipants), on the other.

Would you advise your 23 year old daughter or any one you knew it was ‘a good thing’ to deliberately get caught up in that.

I personally would have advised against it but that’s just me.

Funny you should mention that my 10 yr old daughter has just finished the Under the Hawthorn Tree trilogy about the Irish famine and we have drawn parallels with the experience of the main characters in the book and the Palestinian people. Especially talking about the horror if the soup kitchens and the current issues around the supply of aid and the controlling nature of the colonizers.

So if in 13 years she decides to do something like this I will probably yes try and stop her because I love her so much and want nothing bad to happen but I would be very very proud of her .

ssd · 05/06/2025 19:53

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 19:50

Do you really think they expect to deliver any food?

I hope they can , they are extremely brave and courageous.

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 19:51

ssd · 05/06/2025 19:41

i would be so proud if my dcs did this. And i know they would if they could. So would hundreds of others.
Its so typical of the pro Israeli posters to try to patronise and denigrate these actions. Its really pathetic. They cant stand the fact that Israel is slipping further and further into isolation. Its becoming a pariah on the world stage. Of course they will say this is because we hate jews. That's what they focus on, rather than face the fact Israels actions are turning the workd against them and exposing what has been happening to the Palestinians for years. I pity the many decent people who live in Israel and are against Netanyahu and his corrupt government. They know what is happening is wrong and they have the courage to speak up. They are to be admired.

Same question as above to you?

Who would you expect to protect your DC in an active war zone like Gaza?

Hamas? The PIJ?

Or do you think they wouldn’t need protection?

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 19:50

ssd · 05/06/2025 19:48

You wrote "it really is a sign of a weak challenge to a debate when people stoop to making things up"

Then you say "putting herself and others at risk in a war zone for a publicity stunt. That's what they're doing it for not to deliver food!"

Try taking your own advice, eh?

Do you really think they expect to deliver any food?

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 19:48

Ah! The personal insults have come out.

How very predictable! About as predictable as Greta’s sailing boat not being allowed to reach the Gaza Strip so the supposed aid won’t reach anyone. Which being “symbolic” won’t actually be much of a loss.

ssd · 05/06/2025 19:48

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 18:54

Who said that Israel would making them attack them or even mentioned Israel attacking them? It really is a sign of a weak challenge to a debate when people stoop to making things up. Happens over and over on here

Taking action does not mean attacking. Obviously Israel will have to stop these idiots landing in Gaza for their own safety which will probably mean intercepting the boat and detaining them before deportation which is what they want so they can ‘resist’.

I would be absolutely horrified and sincerely disappointed in my DD if she did something like this. Putting herself and others at risk in a war zone for a publicity stunt. Thats what they’re doing it for not to deliver food!

You wrote "it really is a sign of a weak challenge to a debate when people stoop to making things up"

Then you say "putting herself and others at risk in a war zone for a publicity stunt. That's what they're doing it for not to deliver food!"

Try taking your own advice, eh?

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 19:46

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 19:19

Imagine calling someone an idiot for wanting to land aid during a famine.

Think if my baby was dying because another country had prevented formula coming in I would take every bit of support I could get whether the giver was a performative virtue signaller or not .

And any publicity stunt that lets the world see what Israel is doing is a good thing.

Err not just a ‘famine’ though, an active war zone with a ‘genocidal, monstrous, evil, fascist’ Army on one side and barbaric gang raping, head chopping, dismembering, shooting rampaging, baby kidnapping, terrorist organisations (and civilian partipants), on the other.

Would you advise your 23 year old daughter or any one you knew it was ‘a good thing’ to deliberately get caught up in that.

I personally would have advised against it but that’s just me.

ssd · 05/06/2025 19:41

i would be so proud if my dcs did this. And i know they would if they could. So would hundreds of others.
Its so typical of the pro Israeli posters to try to patronise and denigrate these actions. Its really pathetic. They cant stand the fact that Israel is slipping further and further into isolation. Its becoming a pariah on the world stage. Of course they will say this is because we hate jews. That's what they focus on, rather than face the fact Israels actions are turning the workd against them and exposing what has been happening to the Palestinians for years. I pity the many decent people who live in Israel and are against Netanyahu and his corrupt government. They know what is happening is wrong and they have the courage to speak up. They are to be admired.

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 19:19

Imagine calling someone an idiot for wanting to land aid during a famine.

Think if my baby was dying because another country had prevented formula coming in I would take every bit of support I could get whether the giver was a performative virtue signaller or not .

And any publicity stunt that lets the world see what Israel is doing is a good thing.

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 18:54

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 17:02

They are exemplary human beings - they are risking their lives to deliver food to a starving population. I would be so thrilled if my daughter turned out to be half the person Greta is! Remarkable young lady.

Says a lot that you think Israel would be “making” them attack them, they have no right to attack peaceful people in international waters. Palestine is not their country, they have NO right to block aid to starving people. They are invaders, just like Russia is in the Ukraine.

Who said that Israel would making them attack them or even mentioned Israel attacking them? It really is a sign of a weak challenge to a debate when people stoop to making things up. Happens over and over on here

Taking action does not mean attacking. Obviously Israel will have to stop these idiots landing in Gaza for their own safety which will probably mean intercepting the boat and detaining them before deportation which is what they want so they can ‘resist’.

I would be absolutely horrified and sincerely disappointed in my DD if she did something like this. Putting herself and others at risk in a war zone for a publicity stunt. Thats what they’re doing it for not to deliver food!

Namechangedformyanswer · 05/06/2025 18:38

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:30

Come off it, Random - even the activists on board the boat have said the amount of aid they are carrying is “symbolic” rather than say, useful.

Symbolic. Sounds about right. Slogans. Symbols. Chants. Soundbites. Hamas will love them.

Let's hope negotiations for a ceasefire are fruitful.

Namechangedformyanswer · 05/06/2025 18:36

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 15:27

Really cannot see how she is going to make a positive difference. Tend to agree with this writer's opinion that Greta Thunberg’s narcissism has escalated to terrifying levels

Bored with saving the planet, Greta Thunberg now wants to save Gaza. Yes, Sweden’s prophetess of doom has a new moral crusade.

It’s no longer the coming heat death of the Earth that keeps her up at night – it’s Israel’s “live-streamed genocide” in Gaza, as she calls it.

She and a gaggle of self-righteous pals have set sail for that benighted strip of land. They departed Sicily yesterday, their boat a riot of keffiyehs and Palestine flags. They hope to dock in Gaza in a week’s time.

Their aim is nothing less than to “break the Israeli blockade” of Gaza. “We are seeing a systematic starvation of two million people. Every single one of us has a moral obligation to do everything we can to fight for a free Palestine”, said Ms Thunberg.

Of all the smug stunts of the faux-virtuous activist class, this is surely the most preposterous. The idea that 12 woke fainthearts from Europe might “liberate” Gaza would be funny if it were not so dangerous.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/02/greta-thunberg-activism-gaza-woke-elite/

Oh my.

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 17:46

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 17:02

They are exemplary human beings - they are risking their lives to deliver food to a starving population. I would be so thrilled if my daughter turned out to be half the person Greta is! Remarkable young lady.

Says a lot that you think Israel would be “making” them attack them, they have no right to attack peaceful people in international waters. Palestine is not their country, they have NO right to block aid to starving people. They are invaders, just like Russia is in the Ukraine.

Agree. She is really the symbol of hatred for Daily Mail style readers: climate change and pro Palestinian: if she was buddies with Harry and Megan they would combust!.it's like all their nightmares rolled into one. Fair play to her for standing up on this one.

Israel have blocked so much going into Gaza for years that this is nothing new. Wedding dresses were banned at one stage, because we all know how deadly white lace is...

And their are risking their lives when you think about the flotillas of 2010/11

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:32

Luckily for them Israel have said they won’t allow the boat to dock in the Gaza Strip anyway so it’s not helping anyone.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:30

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 17:02

They are exemplary human beings - they are risking their lives to deliver food to a starving population. I would be so thrilled if my daughter turned out to be half the person Greta is! Remarkable young lady.

Says a lot that you think Israel would be “making” them attack them, they have no right to attack peaceful people in international waters. Palestine is not their country, they have NO right to block aid to starving people. They are invaders, just like Russia is in the Ukraine.

Come off it, Random - even the activists on board the boat have said the amount of aid they are carrying is “symbolic” rather than say, useful.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 17:02

They are exemplary human beings - they are risking their lives to deliver food to a starving population. I would be so thrilled if my daughter turned out to be half the person Greta is! Remarkable young lady.

Says a lot that you think Israel would be “making” them attack them, they have no right to attack peaceful people in international waters. Palestine is not their country, they have NO right to block aid to starving people. They are invaders, just like Russia is in the Ukraine.

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 16:44

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 15:27

Really cannot see how she is going to make a positive difference. Tend to agree with this writer's opinion that Greta Thunberg’s narcissism has escalated to terrifying levels

Bored with saving the planet, Greta Thunberg now wants to save Gaza. Yes, Sweden’s prophetess of doom has a new moral crusade.

It’s no longer the coming heat death of the Earth that keeps her up at night – it’s Israel’s “live-streamed genocide” in Gaza, as she calls it.

She and a gaggle of self-righteous pals have set sail for that benighted strip of land. They departed Sicily yesterday, their boat a riot of keffiyehs and Palestine flags. They hope to dock in Gaza in a week’s time.

Their aim is nothing less than to “break the Israeli blockade” of Gaza. “We are seeing a systematic starvation of two million people. Every single one of us has a moral obligation to do everything we can to fight for a free Palestine”, said Ms Thunberg.

Of all the smug stunts of the faux-virtuous activist class, this is surely the most preposterous. The idea that 12 woke fainthearts from Europe might “liberate” Gaza would be funny if it were not so dangerous.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/02/greta-thunberg-activism-gaza-woke-elite/

Quite. They are seemingly trying to provoke some kind of action from Israel which will obviously be an interception of the boat and deportation of the occupants which they will ‘resist’ and can then spin as illegal detainment, IDF brutality, Israel trying to hide the truth of what’s going on in Gaza and preventing humanitarian assistance (how much exactly did they fit that on that boat?) etc.

As if civilians from other countries would normally be able to, or want to, rock up and enter an active war zone with hostages still being held by a fanatical terrorist organisation for almost two years, and capable of the Oct 7th atrocities, and who have stated they want as many of their people killed as possible for their cause and have no responsibility to them.

If they are allowed to enter Gaza without IDF protection, what do you think are the chances are of Hamas or one of the other terrorist groups killing them either accidentally on purpose and/or blaming the IDF? You’d assume they won’t want IDF protection as they’re allegedly committing genocide.

Interesting that one of the people on board (the Brazilian activist) seems to be a supporter of Hezbollah leader Nasrallah and attended his funeral. I won’t post a link but it’s on his X account for the ‘Freedom Flotilla’. Odd this hasn’t been picked up by the MSM when reporting on this.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 15:27

sualipa · 05/06/2025 14:51

Let's hope Greta makes a difference - they wouldn't assasinate her surely ?

www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-856590

Really cannot see how she is going to make a positive difference. Tend to agree with this writer's opinion that Greta Thunberg’s narcissism has escalated to terrifying levels

Bored with saving the planet, Greta Thunberg now wants to save Gaza. Yes, Sweden’s prophetess of doom has a new moral crusade.

It’s no longer the coming heat death of the Earth that keeps her up at night – it’s Israel’s “live-streamed genocide” in Gaza, as she calls it.

She and a gaggle of self-righteous pals have set sail for that benighted strip of land. They departed Sicily yesterday, their boat a riot of keffiyehs and Palestine flags. They hope to dock in Gaza in a week’s time.

Their aim is nothing less than to “break the Israeli blockade” of Gaza. “We are seeing a systematic starvation of two million people. Every single one of us has a moral obligation to do everything we can to fight for a free Palestine”, said Ms Thunberg.

Of all the smug stunts of the faux-virtuous activist class, this is surely the most preposterous. The idea that 12 woke fainthearts from Europe might “liberate” Gaza would be funny if it were not so dangerous.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/02/greta-thunberg-activism-gaza-woke-elite/

sualipa · 05/06/2025 14:51

Let's hope Greta makes a difference - they wouldn't assasinate her surely ?

www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-856590

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