Gary Lineker - he really had to go and a warning t against virtue signalling

After a certain age, when certain manifestations occur for one thing, but not the other at least five( non ambiguous by proper definition ) ......
One should not seek permission to call those who can only catch vibes about the one thing what most of them clearly are.
And not to do you down, but to give you advice: One has a hard row to hoe expecting most of these same types to admit to what they are.

It is possible to be "anti Zionist" and anti Israel without being Anti Semitic, they claim. And that is true in some cases.

What they do not say is that Anti Zionism and being anti Israel is a logical culmination of being anti Jew.
Especially when Islamic colonialism that is far and wide seems not to trouble them so much.
Having a country for Jews =BAD.
Turning or trying to turn non Muslim races, countries Muslim by force, slavery and " conversion" and even expulsion= crickets.......
And let's not talk about how the Arabs colonised the Roman named Palestine changing its name from Judea.

Your point has absolutely no intellectual honesty, especially as every country surrounding and bordering Israel has religion as both its cultural and political raison d'etre to the point of complete othering of anything but Islam.

Furthermore, ethnicity, not religion is the reason for Israel's existence in the modern era.

Religion and morality hardly go hand in hand.
Religion, especially Christianity and Islam is are more about judgement and adherence to a narciissistic higher power's "word" lest those religions' adherents go to hell.

And both are religions of conversion, conquest and worldwide colonialism.

But carry on, hunny.

No I don't think it did.
I think that blaming people for the actions of others is wrong And that's what my post said. Don't hold others up to an unfair standard

Like I said people shouldn't do it but they do. Your post indicated that this doesn't happen to Muslims when it very much does. This conflict has unfortunately seen a huge uptick in both antisemitism and anti Muslim hate come with it.

But now the same thing is being done to Jews. Do 2 wrongs make a right?
I have absolutely no skin in the game as I am not from either faith but with people saying that Jews should be vocal I just feel the argument should be balanced

The way I see it, the Western world has not "allowed" a horrific situation to unfold in Gaza.

We are not responsible for all the world atrocities.

Hamas are the main one who must take responsibility in my opinion. Followed by Netanyahu and his government who are choosing to respond to the massacre inflicted upon their people in a way that has now gone beyond proportionate.

I think it’s hard to get over the slaughter of innocent human beings. Whether is was caused by Hamas on 7th Oct or the Israeli Gov since then. It’s all horrendous. Full Stop!

Agree. I ask myself every time I come on here.

Have you asked your friend? And don't you think this question has been answered in @Stripes56's post above?

Was it a different perspective? I think you were trying to suggest that people had sympathy for the Palestinians because they were Muslim and not because they are being slaughtered and maimed and starved in their thousands. I would suggest that isn’t the case because most of the rest of the world see the brutality of what Israel is doing and just wants that to stop.

Clearly, trying to offer a different perspective here is largely futile and I think it best I save my time & energy.
It’s clear that many responses are shaped by a strong existing narrative, and any alternative view is either dismissed or twisted to fit that narrative rather than considered.
Best to get some work done now.

You do know muslims are not one homogenous group don't you? Why are you turning things into a muslim versus jew scenario? what has this got to do with Gary Lineker?

I think public opinion is rather more fuelled by the what we know is happening in Gaza than who you are praying to.

For a country that puts religion so central to its existence there seems to be very little attempt to follow any moral code at all.

@TomeTome
The huge difference in global population between Jews (about 15 million) and Muslims (nearly 2 billion) matters when it comes to social media and public opinion. On platforms driven by volume and engagement, the larger group naturally has a louder voice. This can make it harder for Jewish perspectives to be heard or for misinformation to be challenged, especially when discussions turn heated or political. It’s not about silencing anyone—just recognising how numbers can shape the narrative, whether we realise it or not.

They are a Western-style democracy - located in the Middle East.

I don’t think I’d describe Israel as a western country. It’s a Middle Eastern country that appears to have lost any moral compass it might have had lead by a blood and land hungry zealot intent on cleansing Gaza. When they look up from the bloodbath where will they go next?

As a society, we’ve accepted that you can’t truly understand racism & discrimination unless you’ve experienced it—and so we don’t doubt those who have (this is not always the case unfortunately & we still have huge work to do). Yet, it does feel, that that same respect doesn’t always extend to Jews.

Lets not forget that there are 0.2% of Jews compared to 23% Muslims in this world
why? Why do you think this is pertinent? 31% are Christian, 6% are Buddhist…who cares?

And I think this is why Israel has been allowed to continue behaving so
appallingly - many people fear being labelled anti-semitic, just like you are judging your friend.
The Western world will regret this fear, it has allowed a horrific situation to unfold in Gaza. Defence is one thing - what's happening in Gaza is revenge in the extreme. No other Western country would get away with it.

What makes me thinks my friend cares more about a Palestinian child than a Sudanese child?
As per my point, because they only ever post about Palestine and never about Sudan. Or any other cause. It doesn’t tell me that they don’t care about ALL children. It tells me that they appear to care MORE about anything relating to this cause and it makes me wonder, why?
As Stripes said, perhaps its because of the ties with our own Western politics.

well explain it better then?

This sentence was pretty clear to me

but I cannot help but question why my friend chooses to care so much more about a Palestinian child than a Sudanese. Ignorance? Or Bias? Or worse, Anti Senitism?
I can't speak for your friend but what makes you think anyone cares more or less about one child over another? and I ask again why is it this that you are focused on?

Edited to add, please don't pit one horrific situation against another it is just distressing and deflecting and serves neither

@Stripes56 I hear your point. I suppose as I know some of these people very personally, I know that they haven’t chosen to be this vocal about other wars and causes in which the Western world were complicit, so it feels pertinent that they choose only this situation.

@ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend You have completely missed my point.

It is anti-semitic to care about starving Palestinian children? Wow! Would you listen to yourself. Why are yo so triggered by people caring that a Palestinian child is suffering and malnourished and wants them to get access to aid asap? That is the question people should be asking themselves, have you dehumanised them to that extent that you can't even cope with others caring about them?

The famine in Sudan is due to internal conflict and not enabled by a Government seen as an ally of the West, a country with which there are strong cultural and trade links with Western countries, and until recently our governments seemed not to care..
This has been discussed repeatedly on the board.

What can we do to substantially change what is happening in Sudan? We can review trade links with Israel which UK is now doing.

I can see why you view this as antisemitism - but I think there would be similar criticisms of any Western Government preventing food reaching starving children 😮