Gary Lineker - he really had to go and a warning t against virtue signalling

Israel has the strongest military in the region. The idea that they absolutely must bomb every single building in Gaza, curtail people into a smaller areas using aid as leverage, kill tens of thousands and reoccupy the land all “for security” is mind blowing to me and pretty much everyone else at this point.

What do posters who support Israeli actions think of the latest statement by France and Germany? Or even the US keen for this to stop. Are you not a little worried that Israel stands alone in justifying what is happening? Does that not raise any questions at all in your head about their actions? Or is your faith in the Israeli government unshaken?

You just don't support the withdrawal of aid but you support military actions that is killing thousands of Palestinians children as long as they have had a bite to eat before they do. Got it.

I also don't support the settlers or the new settlements.

Nevertheless, I do still support Israel overall. They were the ones attacked on October 7th and this triggered the current war.

@Prettyroses yes I do support Israel's current military action as I believe they have to destroy Hamas and if they don't do it now, Hamas will attack them again and again. It is their goal to destroy Israel as stated in their charter, “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

So yes, I do support them over Hamas though I don't support everything Israel has done in this war, such as withdrawing aid as mentioned above.

But that is theoretical and won't ever happen. Whereas what Israel is doing is LITERALLY wiping out Palestine and the Palestinian people.

Did the thousands of dead Palestinian children bring it on themselves?

Well that is awful if somebody said the hostages deserved it. They clearly didn’t. And the people of Gaza don’t deserve this either. We all have a collective responsibility towards children as well, they are always innocent and should be protected.

What Hamas did was horrific but what does it say about Israel that they have sunk to same level of depravity?

I seem to remember having this conversation in November 23 about child hostages with people on here, when people were ripping down posters of the bibas children. They were somewhat partisan, the female hostages were all soldiers apparently.

If hamas returned the rest of the hostages and disarmed, there'd be more pressure within and without Israel to ceasefire and remove netanyahu from power.

@HellsBalls Brought it on themselves.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/world/middleeast/gaza-children-hunger.html

Do you honestly look at these pictures and think these kids deserve their suffering? Are you a parent ?

Quite right. Netanyahu had gone too far, and they brought it on themselves in any case.
There is no tune changing.
Israel wouldn’t have attacked if it weren’t for Oct 7th. Never forget that.

They'd be crazy to trust that Netanyahu meant well - he's a fanatic. If he could keep his finger off the trigger for 30 days I'd be surprised. He's a piece of shit.

So they think he's gone too far but they also think the Gazans brought it on themselves? You have changed your tune now after not a single person believed you.

But Israel has killed many many more Palestinians than vice versa. Do you think Israelis are fanatics too?

Yes but you said you hadn’t spoken to anyone who supports the Gazans and then describe your “few Jewish friends” who are all the other people who don’t support the Gazans and what part of the world are you from? Do you not get any unfiltered news at all?

60 days of negotiations should at least bring a longer ceasefire, if not a permanent one. Israel will not continue to fight if Hamas have agreed to stop killing Jews.
The current status means Israel will keep going locations and killing Hamas.
Why should Israel stop when their enemy will not negotiate, will not hand over the hostages, will not stop trying to kill Jews? Israel’s first priority is the safety of their people.
It’s obvious Hamas does not have the same priorities.

They won’t agree to a temporary ceasefire that means Isreal can go back to decimating them in 60 days, which is understandable. Isreal needs to offer a permanent solution that offers genuine freedom for Palestinians. Until then, why would they agree to surrender?

My few Jewish friends think Netanyahu has gone too far, but now the IDF has killed the last Hamas leaders based under the hospital and the aid is going back in, they just want the war to stop, but they want Hamas gone.
They can’t have it both ways if Hamas won’t surrender (they won’t, they are fanatics), and won’t agree to the proposed ceasefire.

No.

Or do you think all is fair in love and war but maybe.. just maybe they have gone a teensy weensy bit too far?

Do you support Israel's current military action which has caused thousands of civilian deaths and casualties despite most EU countries calling it unacceptable?

Gary will be fine. There is no demise to his career, he has plenty of opportunity. The BBC is not the only media outlet. He’s turning down offers because he’s popular, and no one with any sense believes he is anti semitic.

I admire him for standing up for what is right even though it brings him so much unfair criticism.

What about the constant theft of Palestinian land by settlers? 22 new settlements (aka theft of land) approved in the last 24 hours.

What about Netanyahu statement that Israel's goal is to wipe out all possibility of a Palestinian state (January)?

What else is it if Israel is stealing all Palestinian land and killing all Palestinians?

What more will it take for you to decide that maybe it is genocide? 100,000 dead - maybe 500,000 - maybe not one Palestinian left in Gaza? When do you think enough innocents have died?

I don’t believe they are committed genocide at the moment. I believe they are trying to kill Hamas who have embedded themselves amongst civilians in the most disgusting way such as under hospitals.

There is of course a limit to the actions I support. For example, I didn’t support Israel blocking humanitarian aid and think they should have reinstated it much quicker than they did and made the aid hubs more accessible to everyone ( apart from Hamas).

Is there any limit to your support of what the Israeli Gov are doing? Are you willing to support them through genocide?