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Gary Lineker - he really had to go and a warning t against virtue signalling

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mids2019 · 19/05/2025 05:21

Maybe Gary Lineker's departure acts as a warning for this not acquainted with history to go around randomly reposting pro Palestinian links though I suspect he is not the only one. In a way it is a sad demise to a career but an absolutely necessary one and a timely warning that a proportion of P Palestinian supporters are anti semites.

for to say I didn't like the Gaurdian 's take that the BBC were looking to sack Gary anyway and he just have them an excuse.

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CurlewKate · 19/05/2025 19:34

@MyNameIsXCan I ask who you are calling a “Hamas apologist”?

CurlewKate · 19/05/2025 19:33

Funny how being prepared to speak out is now called virtue signalling..

sualipa · 19/05/2025 19:32

SquashedMallow · 19/05/2025 19:30

Gary lineker is a virtue signalling jumped up little arsehole

Gary Lineker is approximately 5 feet 10 inches (178 cm) tall.

CurlewKate · 19/05/2025 19:31

dairydebris · 19/05/2025 19:26

Yes, that's right. Those naughty terrorists. Can't be expected to behave themselves can they?
Why do you expect better behavior from Israelis than Palestinians I wonder?

I don’t. I expect better behaviour from people committed to the Geneva Convention and who insist that they do everything they can protect civilians than I do from terrorists. Who aren’t and don’t.

sualipa · 19/05/2025 19:31

dairydebris · 19/05/2025 19:26

Yes, that's right. Those naughty terrorists. Can't be expected to behave themselves can they?
Why do you expect better behavior from Israelis than Palestinians I wonder?

They proudly call themselves the only democracy in the Middle East and are a close ally of Western democratic nation - countries that provide them with material support, both financial and military. That’s why it matters. Pariah states act with impunity and are treated accordingly; democracies, especially those we back, are supposed to be held to a higher standard. That's why.

SquashedMallow · 19/05/2025 19:30

Gary lineker is a virtue signalling jumped up little arsehole

MyNameIsX · 19/05/2025 19:29

dairydebris · 19/05/2025 19:26

Yes, that's right. Those naughty terrorists. Can't be expected to behave themselves can they?
Why do you expect better behavior from Israelis than Palestinians I wonder?

The Hamas apologists will do all they can to twist the narrative.

It’s all they have left.

dairydebris · 19/05/2025 19:26

CurlewKate · 19/05/2025 15:43

Hamas is a terrorist group. The IDF isn’t. They have-or should have-different standards.

Yes, that's right. Those naughty terrorists. Can't be expected to behave themselves can they?
Why do you expect better behavior from Israelis than Palestinians I wonder?

MyNameIsX · 19/05/2025 19:24

BoredZelda · 19/05/2025 19:15

Whereas everyone is dying to hear what mynameisx has to say on the subject?

You can disagree with his views if you like, but denigrating him because of his profession shows a lack of ability on your part to properly debate. He is just as entitled to share his opinion on politics as anyone else.

Well now, clearly the BBC and others, disagree with you.

His profession ‘was’ as a sports ‘anchor’, and former savoury snack ‘ambassador’.

I do not recall him being appointed or remunerated on the premise that he would seek to use his platform to comment on geopolitics - he clearly lacked neutrality, as well as a proper understanding of the subjects in which he sought to comment.

He withdrew enough of his posts, which is illuminating in itself.

Now he has departed the BBC, he is, of course free to comment as he sees fit.

derxa · 19/05/2025 19:22

Oops wrong thread.

sualipa · 19/05/2025 19:22

MyNameIsX · 19/05/2025 19:11

Your truth, perhaps.

Meanwhile I have received 17 ‘agreed’ emojis, so a number of MN’ers clearly agree with me.

Nice try though.

Sounds like the televote for Eurovision - totally fair !

derxa · 19/05/2025 19:22

I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Graham from Dogs Behaving Badly yet. He seems to be a hate figure for dog owners on here. 🤣

yummyscummymummy01 · 19/05/2025 19:20

It's enormously frustrating that he wasn't more careful about what he posted. I think he feels genuine horror at the genocide in Gaza and that's what he sought to post about. For me the state of Israel and Jewish people are entirely separate and you have to be incredibly mindful about that when you talk about it. My most militant friend about the war in Gaza is Jewish. Not all Jewish people agree with what is going on, which is hardly surprising given the horror of it.

Darls3000 · 19/05/2025 19:18

Well done Gary. He went up in my estimation for this. The silence on the disgusting genocide is sickening so glad he used his fame and profile to put his head above the parapet.

confusedaboutetiquette · 19/05/2025 19:17

Reflecting a little more today, it’s surprising that a former Spurs player can have been so unaware of the images he was using. The club has a big Jewish fan base

BoredZelda · 19/05/2025 19:15

MyNameIsX · 19/05/2025 05:39

Lineker made two fatal mistakes - firstly, using his media profile and platform to make political statements, and secondly, thinking that anyone gives a fuck what an aged sports commentator thinks about Middle Eastern geopolitics.

He’s about as sharp as a beach ball, and should stick to football punditry (or not).

Whereas everyone is dying to hear what mynameisx has to say on the subject?

You can disagree with his views if you like, but denigrating him because of his profession shows a lack of ability on your part to properly debate. He is just as entitled to share his opinion on politics as anyone else.

MyNameIsX · 19/05/2025 19:11

hellohellooo · 19/05/2025 19:00

Foolish thing to say

He is speaking the truth
Fair play to him

Your truth, perhaps.

Meanwhile I have received 17 ‘agreed’ emojis, so a number of MN’ers clearly agree with me.

Nice try though.

CrazyGoatLady · 19/05/2025 19:08

hellohellooo · 19/05/2025 18:59

Exactly !!
What a ridiculous reason to start a thread

Fair play to GL for speaking out

BBC is an utter disgrace

You can speak up against the genocide without repeating anti Semitic tropes. Plenty of people manage to do this. Shame Lineker didn't.

Simplestars · 19/05/2025 19:06

hellohellooo · 19/05/2025 18:59

Exactly !!
What a ridiculous reason to start a thread

Fair play to GL for speaking out

BBC is an utter disgrace

💯
Look at BBC DIRTY HISTORY
BIAS AND
BBC like to employ pedophiles

hellohellooo · 19/05/2025 19:00

MyNameIsX · 19/05/2025 06:25

Lineker is a useful idiot for Hamas, that’s all.

The bloke is a complete mug.

Foolish thing to say

He is speaking the truth
Fair play to him

hellohellooo · 19/05/2025 18:59

Simplepink · 19/05/2025 05:46

GL is NOT ant-Semitic he’s just a normal person horrified at the genocide happening in front of us.
well done to him on a successful career and also his morals and standing up for a cause he believes in

Exactly !!
What a ridiculous reason to start a thread

Fair play to GL for speaking out

BBC is an utter disgrace

sualipa · 19/05/2025 18:58

You left out the part where he kills babies in his spare time—for fun, no less! A monster by any measure. When Danny Cohen was a senior figure at the BBC, he should’ve put on his Witchfinder General hat and shut this down before it ever got started. I blame him.

Martymcfly24 · 19/05/2025 18:49

sualipa · 19/05/2025 18:29

And Jimmy Carr of Holocaust joke fame gets to host an Israeli reception in London. Go figure....

Held in the British Museum, the perfect place for a party for colonisers that won't return what's rightfully belongs to another land.

Corinthiana · 19/05/2025 18:45

Mylegishangingoff · 19/05/2025 18:28

Israel bombed Gaza for 3 days a week before Oct 7. Over 30 Palestinian children were killed by Israel that year prior to Oct 7 and 100s of adults. Multiple pogroms happened by terrorist settlers under the protection of the IDF in the West Bank in 2023 prior to Oct 7. Children were being tortured and sexually assaulted in Israeli prisons prior to Oct 7. It's a myth that there was a ceasefire on Oct 7. If people think Israelis being raped and murdered would constitute breaking a ceasefire then they must surely agree that Israel broke whatever ceasefire they thought existed first by raping and murdering.

There are still hostages because Israel decided not to move onto the next phase of the ceasefire agreement and broke the ceasefire with mass killings in March. Hamas, the terrorists, aren't giving Israel the only thing stopping them from completely decimating Gaza without a ceasefire agreement. Have you not been following this at all?

"have you not been following this at all"
No need to get personal.
Yes, I have been following it, but I would have thought that a good way to move forward would be to free the hostages, but maybe that's just me. Perhaps I am viewing it too optimistically.

Corinthiana · 19/05/2025 18:41

CurlewKate · 19/05/2025 18:10

I know that there are many Jewish people who are also horrified by the genocide and who emphatically do not support Netanyahu. It was their voices I was referring to.

Oh I see. I will apologise for any misunderstanding.