Gary Lineker - he really had to go and a warning t against virtue signalling

I suspect this person has a little group of friends irl who agree with them. There's far too much of it about.

The only way you can think the IDF are doing 'the same' as the Nazis is if you have no clear understanding at all of the sheer scale and evil of the Nazi regime. I'm going to assume it's merely ignorance on your part rather than anything more sinister.

What you're saying is recognized as antisemitic by many, many people and I appreciate this is an anonymous forum so you're much less accountable, but I'd caution you really strongly against sharing your belief that the IDF are the same as Nazis in real life.

Prejudice always stems from ignorance.

You really think that shooting at unarmed aid workers and lying about it, and starving and killing children, are not "like"? You may need to reflect on your own values.

And it's getting really fucking old.

Please show me where I have trivialized the terrible situation in Gaza before accusing me. Otherwise you're just spitting empty slogans at me.

For the millionth time, it's possible to criticize Israel's increasingly extreme conduct of this war without mentioning Nazis.

On a very basic level, as you appear to find this situation difficult to understand: a lot of those IDF members will have known people affected by 7 October. They are fighting a very real enemy, Hamas, that started this war. That is not comparable to rounding up and slaughtering a whole race of people none of whom did absolutely anything to instigate the killing commited against them. The two are not comparable.

You can call the current Israeli actions monstrous, heinous, unforgivable, shameful, any one of a thousand words to make your point. You cannot call them Nazis.

I'm quite sure Lineker's career is not in demise. If anything he has gained kudos from showing the honour to resign when so many people do not resign for rather worse conduct. He will certainly continue to be greatly in demand for sports commenting, endorsements and the like, and his podcast company is going from strength to strength.

Gary Linekar unfortunately did put up a post that was anti-semitic (knowingly or unknowingly) and he has now paid for it. I can't stand by while posters try to minimise or defend war crimes taking place, we should be able to call out all wrongs, not just the ones that suit us to do so.

Israel's ex- security advisor put out a message awhile ago telling IDF soldiers they should refuse to carry out orders that are war crimes. Why did he say that? Clearly officials in Israel are well aware that war crimes are being carried out.

It's manipulative emotional hyperbole.

The are following instructions of Barbaric regime where people are being ethnic cleansed and a genocide is being carried out.
They are complicit to the genocide.
Stop trivializing the wiping out of men women and children in Gaza.
Happening right now.

Some people who were already antisemitic have decided it's ok to voice it now. We've seen them, we've heard them, some of them have learned to be a bit more careful with their words after being called out. I've heard 9/11 being blamed on Israel, even on here. Social media has allowed existing prejudice to be amplified...

No.

The IDF are following instructions as any soldiers do. And becoming increasingly violent and de sensitized to suffering, and more likely to commit war crimes the longer the conflict continues. Same as any army anywhere.

To compare this to Nazi officers unloading trains full of civilians with not a soldier or weapon amongst them, herding those people into gas chambers where they will be murdered wholesale, then doing this every day for months on end... to compare these 2 situations is to trivialize the horror of the holocaust and is intellectually dishonest.

Both are terrible.

They are not 'like'.

Unfortunately - hasn’t it substantially increased?

Do you think antisemitism only started with netanyahu's government? Do you know how his brother died?

Jewish schools and places of worship needed security long before Netanyahu embarked on his campaign of destruction.

I refer to those who can't call what is happening in Gaza a GENOCIDE for fear of being called antisemitic.
I.e The politicians and a like.

It is a Genocide being committed by the Israeli government.

Kindly, please don't use phrases like "the Jews" like they're a homogeneous group. That is dehumanising and othering. Many Jewish people do not agree at all with the actions of the Israeli state, and Jewish does not = Israeli or Zionist. The phrase you are looking for here would be "what does the Israeli state believe the Gaza residents to be...'

Not sure why poster are so bothered by GL’s intelligence. It’s bizarre.

He should have been more careful about what he posts. Maybe he should face criminal consequences. That’s for the police to decide.

However - the biggest enabler of antisemitism is surely what Netanyahu’s government and the IDF are doing- painful as that may be to acknowledge. It awful to read about how hard it is for Jewish communities at present. To need guards for schools or a synagogue, to not be able to demonstrate your faith is dreadful.

Do GL actions add to this - possibly, but not substantially? I am glad he has apologised and resigned.

@Seagullsandsausagerolls I’m not sure leading Jewish people in our society have called out what’s happened in Gaza. Why is Gary Lineker doing it? Maybe others should step up? I believe in the two state solution but we have many prominent Jewish people who have remained silent. I am troubled by that. I do want everyone to be safe and respected and I abhor the attack by Hamas and all persecution. Again, two wrongs don’t make a right.

At least the government has become more vocal and is recognising some elements in the Israeli government are not the sort of people we want to associate with.

What Jews? They do not all share a brain. My Jewish friends are very much calling out the genocide and still experiencing growing antisemitism.

@Simplestars I doubt very much whether anyone on here fears "the name anti-Semite more than a child's soul lost to the night" (sic).
It is perfectly possible to want an end to this horrific conflict and be watchful of racism on social media, and condemn those who would use such tropes.
If you are critical of Gary Lineker's sm views, it doesn't mean that you support Netanyahu.