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Israeli air strike on the European hospital has killed and injured so many!

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Whatsinanamehey · 13/05/2025 20:52

This is absolutely devastating, so many killed and injured in a hospital!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2jvx3yjg3o

A group of Palestinians stand by a large crater

Israeli air strike on hospital kills 28 people in Gaza, civil defence says

Israel's military said it was targeting a Hamas command centre which it said was beneath the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2jvx3yjg3o

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quantumbutterfly · 14/05/2025 19:18

Perhaps they were just returning the explosives that hamas keeps carelessly throwing over the fence.

Mylegishangingoff · 14/05/2025 19:15

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 19:07

Of course.

Only they weren't at war on 7 October were they?

Now they are, because Israel needs to defend itself against terrorist that would kill kids at a party and families in their beds.

And as you said, now they are at war, lots of people are dying.

7 October is turning out to be a massive, heartbreaking own goal.

Why were Israel bombing Gaza for 3 days a week before Oct 7 then? They don't sound like great neighbours if they are bombing people in 'peace time' 😕

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 19:15

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 19:13

Yes, but they don't half do a lot of threatening with no follow through.

Oh that’s alright then. Maybe I’ll book a holiday to Iran I’m sure it will be fine.

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 19:15

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 19:14

I’ve reported that offensive comment that Israel are to blame for October 7th and the massacre of nearly 2,000 innocents is somehow comparable to someone going on holiday with their windows and door unlocked.

That was an absolute shocker.

Jesus.

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 19:14

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I'm sorry, I can't believe this post. Israel bear responsibility for failing to protect themselves? You're seriously drawing a comparison with a house burglary when you're on holiday? Israel were warned abd chose not to take action?
Honestly I can't believe what I'm hearing here.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 19:14

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 19:10

So it's Israel's fault then?

I’ve reported that offensive comment that Israel are to blame for October 7th and the massacre of nearly 2,000 innocents is somehow comparable to someone going on holiday with their windows and door unlocked.

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 19:13

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 19:11

Iranian armed forces are the biggest in the Middle East according to Wikipedia so not an enemy I would want to laugh at.

Yes, but they don't half do a lot of threatening with no follow through.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 19:11

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 19:01

Oh and Iran are a joke. All mouth and trousers, as my grandmother used to say.

Iranian armed forces are the biggest in the Middle East according to Wikipedia so not an enemy I would want to laugh at.

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 19:10

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So it's Israel's fault then?

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 19:07

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:59

In a war, of course each side can expect to be killed by the other. That's what happens in a war.

Of course.

Only they weren't at war on 7 October were they?

Now they are, because Israel needs to defend itself against terrorist that would kill kids at a party and families in their beds.

And as you said, now they are at war, lots of people are dying.

7 October is turning out to be a massive, heartbreaking own goal.

quantumbutterfly · 14/05/2025 19:06

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 19:03

I don't respond to appeals to emotional descriptions of things. I think logically and it's usual to accept that enemies do these things just as IDF soldiers rape and torture.

C'est la guerre?

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 19:03

quantumbutterfly · 14/05/2025 19:00

.....and the women who were raped, mutilated and slaughtered? Should they have been more modestly dressed?

I don't respond to appeals to emotional descriptions of things. I think logically and it's usual to accept that enemies do these things just as IDF soldiers rape and torture.

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 19:01

Oh and Iran are a joke. All mouth and trousers, as my grandmother used to say.

quantumbutterfly · 14/05/2025 19:00

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.....and the women who were raped, mutilated and slaughtered? Should they have been more modestly dressed?

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:59

dairydebris · 14/05/2025 18:53

So was there an acceptable number of Jews killed that you'd agree to? I mean, is 10 ok? Are they allowed to retaliate if it's 50? 100?

You'd prefer if they just sit there quietly and accept as there's not 'many' being killed?

Jfc.

In a war, of course each side can expect to be killed by the other. That's what happens in a war.

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:58

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dairydebris · 14/05/2025 18:53

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:41

Do Hamas usually manage to kill thousands of Israelis? Prior to what took place in the October? I was given to believe that they don't usually manage many fatalities and that Israel are equipped with the best surveillance and defence measures in the world.

So was there an acceptable number of Jews killed that you'd agree to? I mean, is 10 ok? Are they allowed to retaliate if it's 50? 100?

You'd prefer if they just sit there quietly and accept as there's not 'many' being killed?

Jfc.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 18:53

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:41

Do Hamas usually manage to kill thousands of Israelis? Prior to what took place in the October? I was given to believe that they don't usually manage many fatalities and that Israel are equipped with the best surveillance and defence measures in the world.

I don’t know what they achieved (in their terms) prior to October 7th. But they did manage to get past Israel’s defences on that occasion so no doubt they would have felt emboldened if there had been no retaliation. As would their allies like Iran who are stronger militarily than Hamas.

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:52

The current conflict would not have resulted in thousands of Israeli deaths if the killings in Gaza were not taking place.

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:50

https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/

So, it seems as though not many Israelis have been killed by the Palestinians since 2008.

The current death toll is yet to be determined for the current conflict.

It seems that israel are successful in defending themselves against Hamas.

Infographic: The Human Cost Of The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

This chart shows Israeli & Palestinian deaths/injuries documented by the UN in Gaza and the West Bank.

https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/?__sso_cookie_checker=failed

MissyB1 · 14/05/2025 18:43

BreezyBertha · 13/05/2025 21:42

Just about every other government says ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ but Israel are expected to, although the negotiations were probably only a tool
to get as many hostages back as possible. I don’t know how many other governments would.

You never heard of the Good Friday agreement then.....

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 18:41

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 18:08

Thousands of people would still have died if Israel hadn’t retaliated, it would just have been different people.

Hamas wouldn’t have left it there if Israel had not retaliated, they would have felt empowered to do it again as per their stated goals.

Do Hamas usually manage to kill thousands of Israelis? Prior to what took place in the October? I was given to believe that they don't usually manage many fatalities and that Israel are equipped with the best surveillance and defence measures in the world.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 18:08

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 17:21

Thousands of people wouldn't have died in horrific circumstances?

Perhaps Israel would have learned to listen to threats in the future? It's called defence and most countries are prepared to defend their country. It doesn't have to lead to genocide though.

We know what Israel want and they're achieving it. Why do people need to be here defending it? You're getting what you want. Be happy 🙂

Thousands of people would still have died if Israel hadn’t retaliated, it would just have been different people.

Hamas wouldn’t have left it there if Israel had not retaliated, they would have felt empowered to do it again as per their stated goals.

smallglassbottle · 14/05/2025 17:21

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 14:06

What would have happened to Israel if they didn’t fight back after October 7th attack do you think?

Thousands of people wouldn't have died in horrific circumstances?

Perhaps Israel would have learned to listen to threats in the future? It's called defence and most countries are prepared to defend their country. It doesn't have to lead to genocide though.

We know what Israel want and they're achieving it. Why do people need to be here defending it? You're getting what you want. Be happy 🙂

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 16:47

From the same article:

A security source emphasized that the forces confirmed there were no hostages in the facility prior to the strike. Based on Israeli intelligence, several senior Hamas figures were present at the site that was bombed. According to Palestinian reports, the attack resulted in seven fatalities and 30 injuries.

The joint IDF and Shin Bet statement asserted: "The terrorist organization Hamas continues to use hospitals in the Gaza Strip for terrorist purposes, cynically and cruelly exploiting the civilian population inside and around the hospital. Prior to and during the strike, measures were taken to minimize the risk to civilians, including the use of precise munitions, aerial surveillance, and additional intelligence information. IDF and Shin Bet will continue to act forcefully against the Hamas terrorist organization and eliminate any threats to the citizens of the State of Israel."

Sounds like the Israel military got a tip off. Hamas security leaking like a colander, to paraphrase Ted in Line of Duty.