Israeli air strike on the European hospital has killed and injured so many!

Is that what you think Israel have been doing since 2008, sitting on their hands just minding their own business while the awful Palestinians attack them? Since when have Israel stayed on 'their own side of the fences'? Israel the same country that is currently occupying Palestine, Lebanon and Syria staying in their own territory. What type of revisionist history is this?

I thought it was first reported that 28 were killed. See how the mainstream media rushed to report figures straight out of Gaza.

Nearly every family in Gaza has lost their home and at least one family member because of those explosives. Of course the weapons Israel have are much more sophisticated and ultimately deadly than anything Hamas can muster up. Israel are attacking and largely unarmed population who are being starved while the food & medicine meant for them sits waiting just a few miles down the road.

You have spend months here defending it and now you are making a little joke about it.

You’re actually all keener than the Israeli government to justify their actions. With their latest set of goals for the war, they aren’t even hiding what they are doing now.

Circular arguments aren't addressing the problem and presumably one can't state the source of the problem that led to the october attacks. Therefore the question can't be answered. So, a stalemate.

The Israelis have the Gazans trapped within Gaza.

So you think they should just sit tight and wait for terrorists to come at them? Stay on their side of the fences and behind the iron dome? What about when terrorists bomb buses in Tel Aviv? Are only Palestinians allowed to cross the border to kill? But Israelis not?

By doing whatever it is they've been doing since 2008. It seems to have been effective since then according to fatality and injury stats.

So how should Israel defend herself in your opinion?

The key word being 'defend' as opposed to obliterating your neighbour. That would be known as 'attack'.

we try to be rational.

I'm glad you can at least see that Israel has a responsibility to defend itself and its citizens.

Excellent. I do hate it when people misunderstand. It's such a cause for conflict don't you think? We all understand each other perfectly.

Always happy to make new friends 😂

You've certainly been understood no worries 👍🏼

I'm sure @Twiglets1 is thrilled that you mean it when you call them sweetie.

They ignored government warnings. Their responsibility to check things. Or are some elements of responsibility taking not to be expected?

Were they? I didn't know that. I knew about airstrikes in May against Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists...

Israel launches airstrikes to kill terrorists who threaten Israeli citizens. They don't much care if they kill Palestinian civilians in the process.

Palestinian terrorists launch rockets into Israel frequently with the express purpose of killing Israeli citizens. They often launch these rockets from civilian buildings in the full knowledge that they are endangering their own civilians.

I know which I think is more heinous.

In any case, Palestinian civilians get the shitty end of the stick.

I never say anything I don't mean.

Are you for real? Haven’t you heard about that retired UK couple recently who got arrested in Iran months ago for doing nothing but travelling around … they are still in prison in Iran I believe.

I think you need to do more reading or get your information from different sources.

Oh dear. Merely an analogy used to put things in simple terms. Something relatable and easily understood.

Maybe. Hardly sounds like a ceasefire though does it? 100s of dead Palestinians including over 30 children, violent raids and destruction of infrastructure all over the West Bank, pogroms of Palestinian villages and days of dropping bombs. It's strange that none of them count as 'starting a war' though and that Oct 7 isnt seen as further escalation of what was already an extremely violent time in the region with 100s of people including children dead rather than the beginning of something.

You said what you said so just own it.

Yes, please do. They have a tourist industry funnily enough. It's a very beautiful country from what I understand and the people are friendly from what I've read.

Well then you didn't read or understand what I wrote. I said that Israel has a responsibility to defend itself and its citizens. It was Hamas at fault for attacking them, but Israel needs to defend itself.

Twisty, twisty wordsmiths ain't ya? Semantics and all that.