Israeli air strike on the European hospital has killed and injured so many!

Those links don’t work. I read it in archive.

This is what Haaretz says, but they are a little less definite in that they write that Security sources said they believed that if
Sinwar was there at the time of the attack, then he was hit.

Saudi channels Al-Hadath and Al-Arabiya reported Sunday that the body of Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip, Mohammed Sinwar, was found in a tunnel in Khan Yunis, along with the bodies of ten of his aides. According to the reports, Rafah Brigade Commander Mohammed Shaban was killed alongside Sinwar.

The Hamas chief was the target of an IDF Tuesday strike on the European Hospital in Khan Yunis. According to the Hamas-run Ministry of Health in Gaza, at least 16 were killed and 70 were wounded in the attack. Following the strike, security sources said they believed that if Sinwar was in the underground complex at the time of the attack, he was hit.

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This is a link to what Haaretz said about the underground complex, where Israel had bombed and the resulting damage.
<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.05.16-155227/www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-15/ty-article/.premium/idf-claimed-hamas-dug-tunnel-under-gaza-school-but-shared-footage-of-a-nearby-hospital/00000196-d05d-d9a9-a99e-f35d73540000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.05.16-155227/www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-15/ty-article/.premium/idf-claimed-hamas-dug-tunnel-under-gaza-school-but-shared-footage-of-a-nearby-hospital/00000196-d05d-d9a9-a99e-f35d73540000

killing kids at a birthday party is terrible, as is blowing up new borns in hospital, and demanding the survivors be left.

you can’t have it both ways- if the IDF’s actions can be shrugged off with c’est la guerre, then why not the same for Hamas?

So it appears ... interesting that the IDF were obviously tipped off about it.

Hamas must be really running scared now - not knowing who they can trust and all their leaders getting picked off one by one.

So Sinwar was in a tunnel. UNDER THE HOSPITAL. Doesn’t make it any less sad, but the cynical disregard by Hamas for their own people is mind blowing.

Well done IDF.

Good job.

Body of Hamas leader Muhammad Sinwar found in Gaza tunnel struck by IDF

The Saudi channel Al-Hadath reports that the body of Muhammad Sinwar, the de facto commander of Hamas’s military wing in Gaza, was found in a tunnel in Khan Younis where the terror leader was targeted by the Israel Defense Forces last week.

According to the report, the bodies of 10 of Sinwar’s aides were found with him.
It is also reported that there is evidence that the commander of the Rafah Brigade in Hamas’s military wing, Mohammad Shabana, was also killed in the strike.

Israel has not confirmed the deaths of either Sinwar or Shabana.

The strikes on Tuesday targeted an underground command compound below the European Hospital where Sinwar was believed to be sheltering. The IDF later bombed the area several more times, in an apparent attempt to prevent anyone from approaching the tunnel.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-body-of-hamas-leader-muhammad-sinwar-found-in-gaza-tunnel-struck-by-idf/

Because the 2 things are linked and debates tend to go off in different directions.

I can guarantee if I started a thread about how terrible October 7th was and how I feel so concerned about Israel citizens murdered or taken hostage, someone would pop up to criticise the Israel government.

Yes, the Israel government did bad things before October 7th such as allowing the Settlers but that in no way justified Hamas actions in Gaza.

I totally agree with you: 2 things can be wrong at the same time.

Why is every time anyone expresses concern about civilians, especially women and children in Gaza someoen always pops up to criticise Hamas
Yes, Hamas are evil but that in no way justifies Israels actions in Gaza
2 things can be wrong at the same time

70% of Gaza is either a military buffer or a no go zone. There are only small pockets of Gaza city that aren’t under evacuation orders so it would be difficult to evacuate there. There are also no designated humanitarian zones since Israel recommenced the war. You heard them - all of Gaza will be destroyed. Where would you run to?

The residents were given multiple warnings to evacuate to Gaza City, including a final warning last night, according to the article. Why didn’t they? Unfortunately in an active war zone, especially an urban one, the choice is leave or risk death. Surely it’s a no-brainer?

Why would anyone stay there with children who have no choice in the matter at all.

More terrible, needless, loss of life.

Of course I will be flamed for not caring and ‘dehumanising’ Palestinians for that view, but the fact is that they have agency even in a war.

If anything fatality figures are generally underestimated as there may not be accurate numbers of people in the location. Why claim a number and give it the media before it is even partially verified? It didn’t take long to get the correct figure.

Increasing the number four fold from a relatively small number of 7 and giving it to the media, then the media running with it is not a mistake. No one can count that badly and it doesn’t state ‘unconfirmed reports’ or ‘up to 28’ in the BBC article. It states 28 as fact taking it from Hamas.

You don’t see that as an issue obviously.

@Whatsinanamehey Are you still devastated that 7 Hamas terrorists were targeted and may have been killed as in your OP?

Was the hospital building itself even damaged as the craters look to be all outside?

I think its pretty self explanatory why I thought that.

Poster: They should keep doing what they have been doing since 2008.

You: So you think they should just sit tight and wait for terrorists to come at them? Stay on their side of the fences and behind the iron dome?

Your reply does indeed suggest that that is what you believe they have been doing since 2008.

I'm glad you've cleared it up though that that is in fact something Israel have never done.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqglvlwzx5o

They're now reporting 80 killed in strikes today. You obviously have no idea how long it can take to get accurate fatality figures on a bomb site

How could you have thought I suggested that's what Israel was doing then? I don't think that's what they've been doing and I also don't think that's what they should do.

Saying they should do what they have been doing is nonsense. What they have been doing has bought us to 7 October. Again I would have thought that was obvious. She can't seriously think ' what they have been doing ' is a credible answer, no thought at all went into that.

I haven't got the patience for this tonight.

I'm not dealing with these tricksy people. There is literally no point. The truth is plain to see. Nothing shocks me anymore. It's sad and disappointing of course. I'm just relieved I'm not a Palestinian. Nothing changes here of course.

I didn't decline to answer, I told you that there was no chance of addressing this due to what happened on the October.

I did read the thread she said By doing whatever it is they've been doing since 2008. and you quoted her and replied about Israel sitting on their hands and staying in their own borders.

No, i don't think Israel have been doing that, of course they haven't! Please read the thread. I was asking pp if that's what she thinks Israel should be doing. She's declined to answer so far.