Israeli air strike on the European hospital has killed and injured so many!

I presume that wasn't an insult.

I am quite happy to be called biased against a government that are creating a man made famine and shooting children in the head .

You can condemn Hamas when asked to.

But you need no such invitation when it comes to condemning Israel.

So if you think you are unbiased, you aren't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/hind-rajab-israel-gaza-killing-timeline/

Investigation into Hind Rajabs killing by the Washington Post . IDF were lying about their presence in the area.
(again- there really is a pattern here)

I have plenty of sense and logic that is why unlike others I can condemn Israel and Hamas

They are not.
Approx 28 to 30,000 dead civilians is terrible. 25,000+ dead terrorists is good.
It’s a war, not a genocide. A war Hamas could end at any moment by releasing the hostages and surrendering/disbanding.
They are only continuing because they hate Israel more than they care for their people, and they want to preserve their power.
Hamas could end the war today.

No suprise. Israel are committing genocide in plain site

Are you not aware that there are terrorist attacks in the West Bank. Hamas operates there too as well as other terrorist groups.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq89yd7p7o.amp

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydln190xqo.amp

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/05/08/lowest-number-of-monthly-attacks-in-5-years-recorded-in-west-bank/

Has it been confirmed by verifiable sources that the IDF killed Hind Rajab?

Hamas deliberately sought and went after civilians on Oct 7th in the same way the other terrorist groups in the region do.

Hamas want as many of their own civilians to die as possible. Why do you think they embed themselves in civilian areas like hospitals, schools. refugee camps and residential buildings?

The two (IDF and Hamas) are incomparable to anyone with sense and logic.

We've already veered away from talking about the purpose of the thread - which maybe should have it's title changed to add that 2 top Hamas leaders got killed too - I'm not going to be drawn into things that happened before this war even started.

Are you deflecting because the topic of the European hospital bombing has become less something you wish to discuss now?

And the ones killed before October 7th??
Or the civilians killed in the West Bank?

Hind Rajab wasn't killed in the pursuit of a Hamas fighter was she ?

Hamas certainly didn't need to kill civilians either and they should never have committed such an atrocity.

Hamas only show themselves when it is safe to do so. Otherwise they hide in amongst the civilians, such is their disdain for normal Gazans.

Hamas didn’t need to kill any civilians did they? They still don’t need to as it’s easy to spot Israel soldiers in their uniforms.

Whereas Israel had to in order to find & destroy Hamas fighters hiding amongst civilians & leaders who hide out in tunnels underneath hospitals & other public buildings.

Please don't put words in my mouth .

I despise both groups but it is a fact that the IDF have killed more civilians..

No I don’t I have freely admitted I know they have lied about certain things such as the buried ambulance.

So now we see that you despise the IDF more than Hamas.

You always assume they are telling the truth .

True they have killed way more civilians than Hamas.

You always assume Israel is lying.

But no I wouldn’t put them in the same category as Hamas on anything.

Both proven liars.

Hard to believe either one.

You are talking about Hamas I believe?

Well it's a bit of a boy who cried wolf situation isn't it , when you lie so many times when it could be the truth it's hard to be believed

@Martymcfly24 "but they deserved it...it was a Hamas command centre....."
(said mockingly but in fact it was a Hamas command centre. And no one said the innocent civilians caught up in the attack deserved it ).

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter "they always say they found Hamas there. Often it proves untrue, tragically." (but it was true)

@Whatsinanamehey "the media aren't buying the IDF bullshit anymore" (quoting Sky news that the IDF are lying about a Hamas complex beneath the European hospital: they weren't lying).

But nothing to say since I posted the report yesterday that western reporters have now been allowed to visit the underground command compound below the European Hospital where Sinwar (military leader of Hamas) & Sabaneh (commander of Hamas's Rafah Brigade) were sheltering.

Of course they don't. The narrative of Israel bad is easier to believe. I wouldn't hold your breath for comments. The threads are polarized. It's a tragic situation and many people understand there is more to the conflict but I think most don't visit these boards it's too polarized and hate filled.

At the end of the day there are 2 countries that should both exist and this should have been sorted years ago but it wasn't and so oct 7th was a 2 year plan of absolute horror inflicted on one country and then war against the terrorists who happen to 'run' the other country (apparently 35,000 Hamas operatives).

It's a tragic mess. So much death and destruction. I wonder how people after WW1 and WW2 pulled themselves together and rebuilt after millions died? Need some good leaders here to rebuild.

Yes he was as was said all along. That's how hamas have always worked. Innocent people are always killed. Israel has been damaged massively which to hamas is the bigger picture.

Yes - no one but you wanted to comment on this story, reported by the BBC as well now.

A lot of people don't care about discovering the truth of what happens in Gaza, they prefer to spend their energies point-scoring.

Yes they got another hamas leader, again hiding out near a hospital as is widely known, but people near the precision attack also died. That's why he was there, to make sure if he died lots of innocents died with him. Then his death would be to his cause.

"It may not have hit the hospital itself but it appeared to have struck just outside the entrance, where patients and their loved ones walked.

Graphic CCTV footage showed bodies flung into the air and rubble showering the area, leaving a large crater behind."

Same story reported by the BBC:

The Israeli military has said it has located and identified the body of Mohammed Sinwar, the military leader of Palestinian armed group Hamas in Gaza.

His body was discovered in a tunnel underneath the European Hospital in the southern city of Khan Younis, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on Sunday.
It said it had verified the body's identity through DNA checks - though Hamas has not publicly confirmed his death.

Sinwar, 49, was killed in an air strike on 13 May, which the Hamas-run civil defence agency said killed 28 people and injured dozens.

Sinwar's body was found alongside that of Mohammad Sabaneh, the commander of Hamas's Rafah Brigade, the IDF said.

It added that "several items belonging to Sinwar and Sabaneh were located, along with additional intelligence findings that were transferred for further investigation".

The IDF said other bodies were found, which it was looking to identify.
It took a small group of foreign journalists into Gaza to Khan Younis to show them the tunnel on Sunday.

It also published video of the small entrance to the tunnel, accessible through freshly dug earth just in front of the European Hospital.

The footage shows a long, narrow underground corridor that leads to several rooms.

Inside some of them, piles of clothes and plastic chairs are visible, with a rifle leaning up against the wall. One video also shows a shrouded body being pulled from the tunnel by a rope.

IDF spokesperson Brig Gen Effie Defrin said that in one of the rooms they found the Sinwar's body.

"This is another example of the cynical use by Hamas, using civilians as human shields, using civilian infrastructure, hospitals, again and again," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62veqrq3yzo#:~:text=It%20took%20a%20small%20group,front%20of%20the%20European%20Hospital.

They've found his body and proved where he was but no one cares. Proving they were right doesn't matter because mist on social media move on quickly to the next headline and aren't interested in facts.

Hamas actions have destroyed their country but the cost to their people was huge. They have achieved what they wanted.

Article in the Telegraph today: Hospital attack was precision strike to take out Hamas leader’ (behind a paywall so I'll post main points).

The stench of death is overpowering from the moment you enter the narrow tunnel.

This is where the leader of Hamas is said to have drawn his last breath, some 26ft below Gaza’s European hospital in the west of Khan Younis.

Mohammed Sinwar was killed here on May 13 in an air strike, Israel has said.
After facing criticism for civilian deaths during the bombing, the military has brought The Telegraph here in an effort to show the attack was part of a precision strike on the terror group.

In a small room off the main tunnel, congealed blood was still visible on the floor beside several dirty mattresses.

Next to a flat-screen television, two Israeli M16 rifles hung on the wall – trophies from the Oct 7 2023 incursion and massacre, Israeli officials said.

On Sunday, the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) revealed what they claim to be Sinwar’s hiding place in a rare and tightly controlled visit inside Gaza.
One officer described the missile attack that reportedly killed him as “a world-class air strike”.

“We managed to kill a senior terrorist who was hiding under a hospital, without hitting the hospital,” he said.

However, the air strike drew international condemnation at the time.

It may not have hit the hospital itself but it appeared to have struck just outside the entrance, where patients and their loved ones walked.

Graphic CCTV footage showed bodies flung into the air and rubble showering the area, leaving a large crater behind.

Reports at the time also alleged that the IDF had used aircraft such as quad-copter drones to fire at people rushing to help those caught in the initial blasts.
Until last month, the site had been one of the Strip’s last functioning major health centres.

The IDF insisted the attack next to the hospital was targeting tunnels, which are consistently built by Hamas near and under civilian infrastructure.

On Sunday, heavily armed units led a small group of journalists – the first western reporters allowed into Gaza for months – through that tunnel.

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/08/inside-khan-younis-tunnel-gaza-european-hospital-sinwar/