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NHS staff told to stop wearing uniforms at pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 08:14

Article in The Telegraph yesterday (behind paywall):

NHS staff will be told to stop wearing their work uniforms on marches and displaying pro-Palestinian badges in the workplace as part of a crackdown on anti-Semitism in the health service.

Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, revealed the plans as he vowed to snuff out “the appalling experiences of anti-Semitism affecting Jewish staff and patients” in the NHS.

The Health Secretary has encouraged trusts to roll out wider anti-Semitism training in the workplace. Such training has already been provided to some NHS organisations by the Anti-Semitism Policy Trust.

Following concerns over anti-Semitic activities in medical schools, Mr Streeting has said they should be adhering to wider university sector guidance on stamping out such behaviour.

In December, he vowed in The Telegraph to have medics struck off the medical register if they brought “racist or extreme views” about the Gaza conflict into the workplace.

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “Actions speak louder than words, which is why we are working with the NHS to put concrete measures in place to stamp out discrimination and protect Jewish staff and patients.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/10/nhs-streeting-staff-uniforms-protests/

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Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 21:39

People can protest all they want @UsernamesAreTaken

There’s just no need for health workers to be wearing their uniforms.

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UsernamesAreTaken · 11/05/2025 21:31

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 20:52

What? There have been photos of protestors holding Hamas banners in the UK and other places, I'm surprised if you haven't seen any.

I'm not saying all protesters are happy about the 7th Oct attack but I said I don’t think you can assume that no pro Palestinian protestors were happy about the attack.

Guardian article: Police seek four people for ‘pro-Hamas’ signs at Palestine demo in London

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/27/police-seek-people-pro-hamas-signs-palestine-demo-london

Ok thank you. That's 1 out of hundreds of thousands. With the other 3 - the judge states there was no evidence of them supporting H, although they were charged with rousing reasonable suspicion.

I've been to many of these protests and not seen any of this. There are many many people there and always a huge Jewish bloc both protesting and speaking at them - and a really diverse one at that. Michael Rosen has also attended. Also holocaust survivors and descendents on holocaust survivors present as well.

I am posting this because it's so important to recognise that people are protesting because of the sheer injustice. I've always thought - would i have the guts to speak out during the holocaust and put myself at risk? And that is what a lot of people who speak out and protest are doing, health workers or otherwise - not at that scale, but speaking out can cost people their jobs.

I understand the health and safety issues with uniforms being worn outside work.

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 20:52

UsernamesAreTaken · 11/05/2025 20:39

Where is the evidence that protesters were happy about the 7th Oct attacks, or holding pro Hamas banners

What? There have been photos of protestors holding Hamas banners in the UK and other places, I'm surprised if you haven't seen any.

I'm not saying all protesters are happy about the 7th Oct attack but I said I don’t think you can assume that no pro Palestinian protestors were happy about the attack.

Guardian article: Police seek four people for ‘pro-Hamas’ signs at Palestine demo in London

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/27/police-seek-people-pro-hamas-signs-palestine-demo-london

Police seek four people for ‘pro-Hamas’ signs at Palestine demo in London

Placards declaring support for Hamas and featuring images of paragliders used to attack Israel would break UK terrorism law

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/27/police-seek-people-pro-hamas-signs-palestine-demo-london

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UsernamesAreTaken · 11/05/2025 20:39

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 20:34

Evidence for what?

Where is the evidence that protesters were happy about the 7th Oct attacks, or holding pro Hamas banners

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 20:34

UsernamesAreTaken · 11/05/2025 19:51

Where is the evidence for this?
There is a huge diversity of people at those protests, including health care workers who are standing in solidarity with medical staff targeted by Israel for refusing to leave their patients behind.

Evidence for what?

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UsernamesAreTaken · 11/05/2025 19:51

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 09:03

I don’t think you can assume that no pro Palestinian protestors were happy about the attack. Some have been holding pro Hamas banners so presumably do support Hamas attack on Israel civilians on October 7th & believe it justified.

Though I like to believe they are in a minority there are some people with extreme views on political demonstrations.

Where is the evidence for this?
There is a huge diversity of people at those protests, including health care workers who are standing in solidarity with medical staff targeted by Israel for refusing to leave their patients behind.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 19:47

I don't think anybody should be wearing their work uniform when on a political protest in their own time. They're protesting in their own name, not their employer's.

Comedycook · 11/05/2025 19:45

sualipa · 11/05/2025 19:13

When Israel stops bombing hospitals and starving the population of Gaza I might start caring about minutae elsewhere.

That's a shame you have no capacity to care about multiple things at once....

sualipa · 11/05/2025 19:13

When Israel stops bombing hospitals and starving the population of Gaza I might start caring about minutae elsewhere.

TizerorFizz · 11/05/2025 18:49

@delightfuldweeb Why though? Yet another declaration of support for something. Frankly, I don’t want to know their views on anything except professional nursing.

delightfuldweeb · 11/05/2025 18:43

ScrollingLeaves · 11/05/2025 18:40

No this is not the case. At the trust near me staff have rainbow lanyards and a rainbow edged zebra crossing outside.

A rainbow lanyard isn’t a political affiliation, it’s showing support for LGB etc colleagues.

ScrollingLeaves · 11/05/2025 18:40

delightfuldweeb · 11/05/2025 11:43

as far as I’m aware it’s clear in Trust policy that we cannot wear anything that demonstrates political affiliations / views on our uniforms or work clothes. I always find it tricky if a patient starts to talk to me about politics, particularly around election time.
I agree that NHS uniforms should not be worn during protests at any other time outside of work.

No this is not the case. At the trust near me staff have rainbow lanyards and a rainbow edged zebra crossing outside.

Upupandaway10 · 11/05/2025 12:55

Whispee · 11/05/2025 08:17

Why do they wear uniforms anyway to protests? Do people from Asda etc wear theirs? I think it's fair enough at work as well in a healthcare service we all pay taxes towards.

This ⬆️. I don’t get it either

delightfuldweeb · 11/05/2025 11:43

as far as I’m aware it’s clear in Trust policy that we cannot wear anything that demonstrates political affiliations / views on our uniforms or work clothes. I always find it tricky if a patient starts to talk to me about politics, particularly around election time.
I agree that NHS uniforms should not be worn during protests at any other time outside of work.

CamillaMacauley · 11/05/2025 11:05

Blimey, I’d get a bollocking if I went to Tesco in my uniform, never mind a protest march!

notnorman · 11/05/2025 10:56

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/05/2025 08:42

My husband used to work for the NHS and wasn't supposed to wear his uniform out of the hospital anyway so I don't see how this arises really. Not that I disagree with their stance on Gaza.

This! Parent had to change in the changing room and put uniform in the Laundry!!

BobbyBiscuits · 11/05/2025 10:53

They shouldn't wear the uniforms unless they're at work. A protest is a personal thing so they should wear normal street clothes. Or a balaclava if they want.
But no individual should associate their personal right to protest with their role at work. Unless they're a human rights campaigner or lawyer or something. But a barrister protesting wouldn't wear their wig and gown?

TY78910 · 11/05/2025 10:50

This in no way reflects my political views on this matter however, I agree.

my workplace has a strict policy that no Badges, logos Are to be placed on uniform as this can be perceived by the wider public as being officially affiliated with the company. It doesn’t matter what the cause is, Whether the wider public thinks is right or wrong, Unless an official initiative by the company, It should not be displayed alongside workplace uniform. In our case, it is fine to wear Jewellery for example, That reflects your beliefs, But the uniform itself is to be kept clear.

When you are attending a protest, that will be publicised on social media, in newspapers And even TV in some cases, organisations such as the NHS shouldn’t be perceived as supporting anything really, unless it’s instigated by them and within policy, As everybody no matter where you are from as a right to receive Care. Seeing NHS workers protesting against anything may signal to the general public that people of the opposed view are not welcome in the organisation.

Oneearringlost · 11/05/2025 10:26

I trained in London in the early/mid eighties.
It was absolutely inculcated in us that no uniforms/white coats/ scrubs were EVER to be worn outside the hospital. It was the professional thing to do....it feels like professional standards have slipped, in more ways than one.

LondonPapa · 11/05/2025 09:09

Good. If this happened in my Civil Service department, clearance would be stripped, job lost, and no recourse. The NHS has enabled far too much stupid shit from pro-Palestine doctors to trans being allowed to perv on women in changing rooms. It is about time someone made it clear the basic standards of acceptability.

MayMadness2025 · 11/05/2025 09:09

This would be useful in all workplaces.

"Mr Streeting has also asked NHS trusts to consider adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism in staff handbooks and HR policies."

MayMadness2025 · 11/05/2025 09:05

Good.

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 09:03

Moglet4 · 11/05/2025 08:56

Happy about the attack? Talk about a stretch

I don’t think you can assume that no pro Palestinian protestors were happy about the attack. Some have been holding pro Hamas banners so presumably do support Hamas attack on Israel civilians on October 7th & believe it justified.

Though I like to believe they are in a minority there are some people with extreme views on political demonstrations.

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Moglet4 · 11/05/2025 08:56

Happy about the attack? Talk about a stretch

Its the usual reaction on here from the but hamas crowd. Any mention that you find the genocide in Gaza utterly abhorrent and you are immediately labelled as antisemitic. Thats always the fallback. Its to end discussion before it actually leads anywhere.

Moglet4 · 11/05/2025 08:59

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/05/2025 08:42

My husband used to work for the NHS and wasn't supposed to wear his uniform out of the hospital anyway so I don't see how this arises really. Not that I disagree with their stance on Gaza.

Quite. When I had one of my children, I puked all over my husband. He didn’t have spare clothes so a kind member of staff gave him some scrubs. When he got to the car park he was stopped. Despite explaining, he was made to strip off the scrubs and drive home in his undies! 🤣