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NHS staff told to stop wearing uniforms at pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 08:14

Article in The Telegraph yesterday (behind paywall):

NHS staff will be told to stop wearing their work uniforms on marches and displaying pro-Palestinian badges in the workplace as part of a crackdown on anti-Semitism in the health service.

Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, revealed the plans as he vowed to snuff out “the appalling experiences of anti-Semitism affecting Jewish staff and patients” in the NHS.

The Health Secretary has encouraged trusts to roll out wider anti-Semitism training in the workplace. Such training has already been provided to some NHS organisations by the Anti-Semitism Policy Trust.

Following concerns over anti-Semitic activities in medical schools, Mr Streeting has said they should be adhering to wider university sector guidance on stamping out such behaviour.

In December, he vowed in The Telegraph to have medics struck off the medical register if they brought “racist or extreme views” about the Gaza conflict into the workplace.

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “Actions speak louder than words, which is why we are working with the NHS to put concrete measures in place to stamp out discrimination and protect Jewish staff and patients.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/10/nhs-streeting-staff-uniforms-protests/

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taxguru · 14/05/2025 19:10

Good - no staff at any employer should be wearing political badges nor attending political events in uniform.

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 19:08

knitnerd90 · 14/05/2025 08:23

I'll make a note that apparently you think it's okay to call random Jews Nazis, thousands of miles away from where people are actually being killed.

that was absolutely uncalled for, especially as it was said in response to someone actually asking if people supported Hamas.

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I should I would be equally sympathetic to it. And yes I was being sarcastic because I stand by the fact that children being bombed to pieces and buried under rubble is worse than adult name calling. I feel sorry for you if you can't see that.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2025 09:06

knitnerd90 · 14/05/2025 07:45

NHS staff shouldn't be wearing uniforms at political protests. It's not about Gaza specifically.

and yes I have been told that if you don't support Hamas as the legitimate resistance in Palestine, you don't support Palestine, you are pro-genocide. I am Jewish and support Palestinian rights. I can't post what people call me without breaking site rules.

Very sorry to hear you have suffered racial abuse like that.

It’s crazy to me that people would think people are pro-genocide just because they don’t support Hamas. Even some brave Palestinian people living in Gaza are protesting against Hamas!

I support Palestinian rights and Jewish rights. I don’t think Hamas are doing Palestinian civilians in Gaza any favours at all, quite the opposite.

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MayMadness2025 · 14/05/2025 08:42

Sandysandyfeet · 14/05/2025 06:02

Rainbow lanyards are 100% political statements. Since Stonewall shifted its focus to trans issues sadly that’s what the pride rainbow signifies to many now, that and ‘queer theory’ which has no place in the workforce. I see rainbows these days as an indicator that the person is no supporter of women, which is very sad.

I feel this way.

Thd rainbow no longer signifies what it used to.

It now signifies men pushing women aside.

Rose a male asking a female nurse why she isn't getting changed whilst standing there in his boxer shorts.

Karen White male raping women in a woman's prison.

Cheating men taking medals from women.

A male teacher telling off a 9 year old child for calling him sir and forgetting he was a non binary teacher.

...this shit has captured the rainbow and soiled it. I'd never wear a rainbow now. It no longer means what it used to mean.

Boredlass · 14/05/2025 08:27

As they should

knitnerd90 · 14/05/2025 08:23

I'll make a note that apparently you think it's okay to call random Jews Nazis, thousands of miles away from where people are actually being killed.

that was absolutely uncalled for, especially as it was said in response to someone actually asking if people supported Hamas.

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 08:02

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knitnerd90 · 14/05/2025 07:45

NHS staff shouldn't be wearing uniforms at political protests. It's not about Gaza specifically.

and yes I have been told that if you don't support Hamas as the legitimate resistance in Palestine, you don't support Palestine, you are pro-genocide. I am Jewish and support Palestinian rights. I can't post what people call me without breaking site rules.

SisterTeatime · 14/05/2025 07:39

LoudSnoringDog · 14/05/2025 06:08

Why on earth would anyone want to wear their uniform? What’s the point that they are trying to make?

off the top of my head

That they’re thoughtless, don’t understand how to behave professionally and need it to be explained to them

That they’re so wedded to the way they think they genuinely believe they are doing the right thing - consciously or unconsciously believing that others’ views aren’t worthy of respect

That they’re massive virtue signallers and show-offs who must see themselves as righteous at all times

That they don’t mind patients potentially feeling intimidated or even threatened when they are in a hospital or care setting

That they have very limited insight into how others think - which is a bit worrying in a healthcare setting

Maddy70 · 14/05/2025 06:50

I was always told that uniforms shouldn't be work outside of the hospitals.

I have worked in many places with a uniform. You shouldn't be l seen anywhere representing your work place that's political, smoking outside, being drunk in s pub etc. It's just not professional

librathroughandthrough · 14/05/2025 06:47

Good- demos in support of terrorists shouldn’t feature work uniforms!

mids2019 · 14/05/2025 06:34

Religious

mids2019 · 14/05/2025 06:33

If someone wore a star of David on their uniform in our 'diverse' trust there would ostracism and people bowling for action. Our Jewish staff do not wear re litmus symbology for fear of comment or bias. Our faith centre is no longer designated as a place for both Jewish and Muslim worship. Now people want to wear Palestinian colours despite part of their population being lead by a heinous terrorist group. The systemaric killing of Jews at the move festivsl.was her holocaust of 30s Germany in microcosm so why do people not see the problem with wearing Palestine lapel badges?

TooManyNiblings · 14/05/2025 06:32

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 05:43

Should we be neutral about upwards of 20000 children being bombed and buried under rubble though? This is the government controlling public sector workers so they can't go against the government's pro israel policy.

The neutrality isn't specifically about Palestine, only in this example. At election time , the NHS isn't allowed to show support for any party either. I vote in my own clothes, not in uniform. I will only wear a trust lanyard, I won't put my pronouns in my email. I work to look after patients only. My views are not relevant at that time and I don't want to intimidate someone into thinking they can't ask me for anything.

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 06:16

LoudSnoringDog · 14/05/2025 06:08

Why on earth would anyone want to wear their uniform? What’s the point that they are trying to make?

That they stand in solidarity with healthcare workers that have been deliberately killed. Bombing hospitals is illegal under international law.

LoudSnoringDog · 14/05/2025 06:08

Why on earth would anyone want to wear their uniform? What’s the point that they are trying to make?

Sandysandyfeet · 14/05/2025 06:02

Rainbow lanyards are 100% political statements. Since Stonewall shifted its focus to trans issues sadly that’s what the pride rainbow signifies to many now, that and ‘queer theory’ which has no place in the workforce. I see rainbows these days as an indicator that the person is no supporter of women, which is very sad.

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 05:56

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 20:52

What? There have been photos of protestors holding Hamas banners in the UK and other places, I'm surprised if you haven't seen any.

I'm not saying all protesters are happy about the 7th Oct attack but I said I don’t think you can assume that no pro Palestinian protestors were happy about the attack.

Guardian article: Police seek four people for ‘pro-Hamas’ signs at Palestine demo in London

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/27/police-seek-people-pro-hamas-signs-palestine-demo-london

I've been on the Palestine marches and there wasn't a single mention of Hamas. If you're going to call out people who think the October 7th attack was justified then also call out the zionists who want Palestinians ethnically cleansed from gaza.

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 05:47

TizerorFizz · 11/05/2025 18:49

@delightfuldweeb Why though? Yet another declaration of support for something. Frankly, I don’t want to know their views on anything except professional nursing.

I'm guessing that's because you're not directly being starved or bombed to death. I agree with previous post which said health care workers are being directly targeted by israel and health care workers in the UK have the right to stand in allegiance with them.

Chickenrun86 · 14/05/2025 05:43

TooManyNiblings · 11/05/2025 08:57

Our Trust policy is we can commute in our uniform but not wear it anywhere we could be identified as the NHS should be neutral.
Those 'nurses' in the supermarket could easily be from other professions, eg spa workers, animal care workers (PDSA staff used to elwear the same uniform as my previous trust!).

Should we be neutral about upwards of 20000 children being bombed and buried under rubble though? This is the government controlling public sector workers so they can't go against the government's pro israel policy.

mids2019 · 14/05/2025 05:30

Nope. Against policy and would be extremely intimidating for Jewish patients .

DrPrunesqualer · 14/05/2025 02:37

delightfuldweeb · 11/05/2025 18:43

A rainbow lanyard isn’t a political affiliation, it’s showing support for LGB etc colleagues.

Which in itself now shows lack of support and intimidation of GC woman and woman’s rights.
So I’m afraid the rainbow is no longer the happy image we remember it as
It is now very much a political image

Many hospitals have rainbows everywhere.
Wes needs to sort it all out.

Thanks for pointing this out @ScrollingLeaves

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 14/05/2025 02:36

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 08:49

I like Wes Steeting because he always seems sensible to me. But then again it’s hard to trust any politician these days!

Me too, I have a lot of time for him 🤞

MrsEverest · 14/05/2025 02:16

I'd never wear my scrubs to any kind of event. The biggest problem is the potential for those who disagree to feel they can't come to me for help, which is the whole reason I'm a doctor. I don't wear any badges either; I work in ICU, my patients and their families are living through a crisis and do not need to be asked to think about my opinions about anything.

However I laughed very heartily indeed at the person who thinks we should be putting our scrubs 'in the laundry'; we've laundered our own scrubs at every hospital I've worked in for more than 15 years. Only theatre scrubs are laundered on site.

I also have zero time for the fool who judges hard working nurses stopping at the supermarket during the limited time they have to shop. Doctors who don't wear scrubs are wearing the clothes they wore to work into the shops; you'd have no idea about that. Many of us who do wear scrubs in fact change into clean scrubs for travel; again, you'd have no idea. By far the greatest exposure I have to respiratory viruses, as an example, despite putting people onto life support for them, is via the local supermarket and other crowded places where members of the public feel no qualms about coughing directory onto others etc.