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Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:54

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:35

people like you
What's that supposed to mean?

People whose views I don’t respect.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:49

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:19

Still, I'm glad you have backtracked from your previous suggestion @ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend that all the IDF are war criminals.

I missed this, I haven't backtracked the IDF are war criminals. Not saying each individual soldier is but the orders come from the top so as an organisation they are

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:35

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:29

Goodnight and I don't care one jot about people like you judging me.

people like you
What's that supposed to mean?

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:29

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:27

I am and I am also entitled to judge you for yours goodnight

Goodnight and I don't care one jot about people like you judging me.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:27

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:25

And you are entitled to your opinion.

I am and I am also entitled to judge you for yours goodnight

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:25

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:25

Most of us understand a bit better that people get killed in wars.
Seriously you can justify it all you like I don't see a war I see a genocide.

And did you notice majority of posters including pro Palestinian posters were able to empathise with those killed in Israel from Iranian borders. We're on the side of humanity

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And you are entitled to your opinion.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:25

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:23

Did you notice by the way that during the Israel/Iran war the Israel supporters were not posting updates each day of how many Israel civilians the Iran soldiers killed and questioning the humanity of anyone who didn't cry over them?

Most of us understand a bit better that people get killed in wars.

Most of us understand a bit better that people get killed in wars.
Seriously you can justify it all you like I don't see a war I see a genocide.

And did you notice majority of posters including pro Palestinian posters were able to empathise with those killed in Israel from Iranian borders. We're on the side of humanity

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:23

Did you notice by the way that during the Israel/Iran war the Israel supporters were not posting updates each day of how many Israel civilians the Iran soldiers killed and questioning the humanity of anyone who didn't cry over them?

Most of us understand a bit better that people get killed in wars.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:20

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:18

What a predictable reply.

Sure I've lost my humanity for pointing out a truth which is that people die each day in wars.

That's not the truth though that's an excuse. You keep glossing over the war crimes, the killing children and firing at innocent civilians.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:19

Still, I'm glad you have backtracked from your previous suggestion @ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend that all the IDF are war criminals.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:18

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:17

The IDF are committing war crimes daily, they are terrorising the people of Gaza. They need a complete overhaul and they need to be open to external investigation. They need to stop killing children, unarmed civilians and turning a blind eye when it comes to settler violence.

More dead each day is what happens in wars.
Maybe you've lost your humanity but I have not lost mine.

What a predictable reply.

Sure I've lost my humanity for pointing out a truth which is that people die each day in wars.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 19:17

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:11

What are you saying now, that all of the IDF are war criminals? All just in the army to kill children and innocent civilians.

More dead each day is what happens in wars.

The IDF are committing war crimes daily, they are terrorising the people of Gaza. They need a complete overhaul and they need to be open to external investigation. They need to stop killing children, unarmed civilians and turning a blind eye when it comes to settler violence.

More dead each day is what happens in wars.
Maybe you've lost your humanity but I have not lost mine.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 19:11

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:21

No it's because the IDF are war criminals and kill children and innocent civilians in Gaza because they know they'll get away with it.

You came on to post that completely ignoring the report of more dead in Gaza.

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What are you saying now, that all of the IDF are war criminals? All just in the army to kill children and innocent civilians.

More dead each day is what happens in wars.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 30/06/2025 18:21

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 17:22

It's because the Iran military don't make a habit of hiding out in civilian buildings or underneath them, unlike Hamas.

So the IDF can kill the actual military targets without so much civilian death.

No it's because the IDF are war criminals and kill children and innocent civilians in Gaza because they know they'll get away with it.

You came on to post that completely ignoring the report of more dead in Gaza.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2025 17:22

roses2 · 24/06/2025 16:23

Can anyone help explain to me why Netanyahu killed civilians in Gaza but not in Iran? Seems to be intentional but I don't get why.

It's because the Iran military don't make a habit of hiding out in civilian buildings or underneath them, unlike Hamas.

So the IDF can kill the actual military targets without so much civilian death.

mids2019 · 28/06/2025 07:37

I think a lot of these discussions revolve around power.

Thousands of marchers through London - no change

Missions shcoked posts on SM - no change

Trump shooting 'don't drop the bombs' - the bombs stop. 1 man. 1 man with power.

I think some settlement between Gazans and Israel needs US input so it will be interesting to see if Trumps she falls on Gaza again. Maybe he will see a situation of two enemies 'not knowing the fuck they are doing' and push Witkoff a bit more to see if peace can be acheived.

Clavinova · 27/06/2025 23:28

The article must have been withdrawn because of this;

Did a 'Harvard report' reveal 377,000 Gazans are 'missing'? The number has been misinterpreted..

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250625-harvard-report-gaza-missing-misinterpreted-number-israel

Eyesopenwideawake · 27/06/2025 22:42

Iscumaliom · 24/06/2025 15:11

This is really concerning. International observers really need to be able to access Gaza and find out what on earth is going on in there.

A new report published by the Harvard database reveals that Israel has “disappeared” at least 377,000 Palestinians since the start of its genocidal campaign against the Gaza Strip in 2023.

Half of this number is believed to be Palestinian children.

The report was written by Israeli professor Yaakov Garb, who used data-driven analysis and spatial mapping to show how the Israeli army’s siege of Gaza and indiscriminate attacks on civilians in the enclave have led to a serious drop in its population.

The 377,000 Palestinians who are unaccounted for due to Israel’s genocide are approximately 17 percent of the Gaza Strip’s entire population, which now stands at about 1.85 million. Prior to the war in Gaza, the strip’s population was estimated at 2.227 million.

https://thecradle.co/articles/harvard-study-finds-israel-disappeared-nearly-400000-palestinians-in-gaza-half-of-them-children-report

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Eyesopenwideawake · 27/06/2025 22:40

In case anyone's missed it - 66 babies have died of starvation in Gaza.

That's what? Two nursery's full of dead children.

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OurStepsWillAlwaysRhyme · 24/06/2025 18:50

roses2 · 24/06/2025 16:23

Can anyone help explain to me why Netanyahu killed civilians in Gaza but not in Iran? Seems to be intentional but I don't get why.

Well, let's first be clear that the Israeli right don't give a shit about any Muslim life, anywhere. However, it's only in Gaza and the West Bank (or Judea and Samaria, as some on this board would no doubt have it) where indiscriminate civilian deaths serve the strategic goal of eliminating the Palestinians or making their lives unliveable.

roses2 · 24/06/2025 16:23

Can anyone help explain to me why Netanyahu killed civilians in Gaza but not in Iran? Seems to be intentional but I don't get why.

Iscumaliom · 24/06/2025 15:11

This is really concerning. International observers really need to be able to access Gaza and find out what on earth is going on in there.

A new report published by the Harvard database reveals that Israel has “disappeared” at least 377,000 Palestinians since the start of its genocidal campaign against the Gaza Strip in 2023.

Half of this number is believed to be Palestinian children.

The report was written by Israeli professor Yaakov Garb, who used data-driven analysis and spatial mapping to show how the Israeli army’s siege of Gaza and indiscriminate attacks on civilians in the enclave have led to a serious drop in its population.

The 377,000 Palestinians who are unaccounted for due to Israel’s genocide are approximately 17 percent of the Gaza Strip’s entire population, which now stands at about 1.85 million. Prior to the war in Gaza, the strip’s population was estimated at 2.227 million.

https://thecradle.co/articles/harvard-study-finds-israel-disappeared-nearly-400000-palestinians-in-gaza-half-of-them-children-report

Harvard study finds Israel ‘disappeared’ nearly 400,000 Palestinians in Gaza, half of them children: Report

The study uses data-driven analysis and spatial mapping to highlight a severe decline in Gaza’s population due to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks and siege

https://thecradle.co/articles/harvard-study-finds-israel-disappeared-nearly-400000-palestinians-in-gaza-half-of-them-children-report

Iscumaliom · 23/06/2025 17:04

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 23/06/2025 15:16

BRUSSELS — Israel’s actions in Gaza may have violated the terms of the country’s agreement with the EU, the bloc’s diplomatic corps found.

One to watch

www.politico.eu/article/israel-breach-eu-deal-over-gaza-human-rights-report-kaja-kallas-palestine-belgium-obligation/

It's good to see things finally being questioned. It's nice to see the ICJ ruling being mentioned too(finally), they were pretty clear that other countries should not doing anything to support Israels occupation.

It's a step forward that the trade agreement is being questioned but I don't actually have high hopes of anything coming from it. Countries like Hungary and Germany will fight their hardest to see Israels activities go unchecked. Although the Netherlands finally had enough of Israels shit so maybe there is a glimmer of hope in there somewhere. Maybe Germany will actually listen to it's citizens on this, polls show that 3 out of 4 people don't want their government to sell arms to Israel anymore which shows the population of Germany don't have much faith that Israel is acting legally.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 23/06/2025 15:16

BRUSSELS — Israel’s actions in Gaza may have violated the terms of the country’s agreement with the EU, the bloc’s diplomatic corps found.

One to watch

www.politico.eu/article/israel-breach-eu-deal-over-gaza-human-rights-report-kaja-kallas-palestine-belgium-obligation/