This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 6)

Nope sorry, the Irish are about as anti-Israel as you can get. Please send me a news report by the BBC. Thanks.

Do you want the times of Israel report on it? If you think it's not true and Israel didn't really bomb families in tents last night?

https://www.thejournal.ie/gaza-rescuers-say-25-killed-in-israeli-strikes-on-displaced-people-6680508-Apr2025/

Here's a news source, what do you think about it now?

Horrific that this is still happening. Horrific that so many are still silent or attempt to minimise that Palestinians are being bombed in flimsy tents whilst they sleep in the night.

It's been a bad week for the "But Hamas started everything...." and "Israel has a right to defend itself" group. They've received a large dose of reality about how the public really feel about attempting to justify dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents, from both the left and right Worldwide.

Douglas Murray who received an award last year in Israel from president Isaac Herzog for being a good friend to Israel appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast to debate comedian Dave Smith.

Murray in a condescending tone attempted to lecture both Rogan and Smith on not being expert enough to talk about the atrocities being carried out in Palestine.

The comments on the video and across social media reacted negatively to Murray who used strawman arguments to defend atrocities (much like elsewhere). I thank him for introducing millions of Rogan listeners who didn't know about what was happening to researching more. Like him or not Rogan often talks about how he can't watch anymore videos of the atrocities being committed as it's too upsetting.

I don't feel sorry for this chief Neocon Murray who has played a large part in pushing racist Islamaphobic tropes in order to justify intervention in West Asia.

It’s really good that you’re using the reputable source that is X….

Israel has bombed tents again.

https://x.com/AnasAlSharif0/status/1912603183181857073

https://x.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1912671978386837960

https://x.com/prizuardi/status/1912628755870482717

https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1912608317492330577

https://x.com/EllenJeanAbare/status/1912675553930272903

It’s really good that you’re using the reputable source that is X….

Israel has bombed tents again.

https://x.com/AnasAlSharif0/status/1912603183181857073

https://x.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1912671978386837960

https://x.com/prizuardi/status/1912628755870482717

https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1912608317492330577

https://x.com/EllenJeanAbare/status/1912675553930272903

What they are doing right now goes way beyond self defence. It’s also intriguing that nobody seems to be asking why the most sophisticated army on the planet did absolutely nothing to defend themselves for several hours while Oct 7th was actually happening and left their citizens to defend themselves. A cynic might wonder if that was an intentional sacrifice made in order to justify the resulting full blown destruction of Gaza once and for all. Much easier to justify if you just sit back and do nothing for few hours letting Hamas murder and abduct your own citizens completely unchallenged.

What they are doing right now goes way beyond self defence. It’s also intriguing that nobody seems to be asking why the most sophisticated army on the planet did absolutely nothing to defend themselves for several hours while Oct 7th was actually happening and left their citizens to defend themselves. A cynic might wonder if that was an intentional sacrifice made in order to justify the resulting full blown destruction of Gaza once and for all. Much easier to justify if you just sit back and do nothing for few hours letting Hamas murder and abduct your own citizens completely unchallenged.

How has it been a bad week for the "But Hamas started everything" point of view? However much stuff you post about wartime atrocities you can never change the fact that Hamas did start this war. There was an uneasy truce before October 7th so I don't see how you can really fail to see that Hamas did start this war.

Equally, Israel do have a right to defend themselves, I would have thought that is unarguable.

Every country has a right to defend itself from massacres though I do agree the IDF have gone too far in their retaliation.

The fact that Israel is winning the war that Hamas started is because of their superior army, defence system, weapons etc. If Hamas had the capability they would do the same or worse to Israel. That is quite clear from what they have already said and done. Hamas insist on hiding out & storing weapons under public buildings like hospitals with the inevitable result that more civilians are killed than if they used different tactics.

It certainly was an awful escalation yes. I don't think anyone here would deny that thankfully.

Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to reiterate for any silent readers that Israel do in fact have a stated aim to 'destroy everything', one which they are clearly carrying out for example the destruction of 36 hospitals and as we have established there is no evidence to support the need for their destruction. They have also been killing innocent Palestinians for many years in very questionable circumstances. What is happening in Gaza is nothing new it is simply an escalation of their violence buoyed on by their proud supporters.

You are being silly now quantum.

I suspect this is something you’ve read on antisemitic media so I’m not going to engage further.

the Israeli government has been clear that their war aims are to rescue the hostages and stop Hamas capability to hurt their people. Rightly so.

Oh , is he on Mumsnet too?

You might want tell their defence minister that. His words were clear.

You might want tell their defence minister that. His words were clear.

That’s not true. Israel’s aim is to destroy Hamas capability to hurt their people. Rightly so.

.... and 7/10 was an escalation of hamas 'resistance' buoyed on by it's proud supporters.

Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to reiterate for any silent readers that Israel do in fact have a stated aim to 'destroy everything', one which they are clearly carrying out for example the destruction of 36 hospitals and as we have established there is no evidence to support the need for their destruction. They have also been killing innocent Palestinians for many years in very questionable circumstances. What is happening in Gaza is nothing new it is simply an escalation of their violence buoyed on by their proud supporters.