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Martymcfly24 · 15/07/2025 10:39

A must watch @10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne

The story of that pregnant women who was shot lying down in her tent, dead baby, hysterectomy, a homemade stoma bag broke me. How can anyone live like this.

Children shot in the head.

Such a well spoken amazing man.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 15/07/2025 10:05

"British doctor on witnessing 'apocalyptic' scenes in Gaza hospital."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfXdHJLD8PA

Whatsinanamehey · 13/07/2025 08:34

And this. Awful. All these children dead whilst waiting for water in the heat.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/reports-at-least-8-killed-including-6-children-in-idf-strike-on-water-distribution-point-in-gaza/

MissyB1 · 13/07/2025 06:47

Martymcfly24 · 13/07/2025 00:22

It's also 32 degrees in Gaza at the moment and 60% humidity (in a tent). Huge amount of people surviving on less than 500ml of water a day.

And the IDF posted that they won't allow them into the sea to cool off.

I can just imagine the IDF shooting people they see trying to cool off in the sea, after all they shoot them whikst they queue for food or medical aid 😡

Martymcfly24 · 13/07/2025 00:22

It's also 32 degrees in Gaza at the moment and 60% humidity (in a tent). Huge amount of people surviving on less than 500ml of water a day.

And the IDF posted that they won't allow them into the sea to cool off.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 13/07/2025 00:15

BelleHathor · 12/07/2025 23:44

Absolutely inhumane, I saw a video last week of a Palestinian with metal rods in his leg, obviously in pain trying to fish to feed his family.

The people who have allowed this will never be forgiven.

Utterly heart breaking! How is he going to provide or his family now? That's probably the point of doing this, though. To make it harder for the Palestinians to provide for their families.

"The people who have allowed this will never be forgiven."

I know that I will never forgive them.

BelleHathor · 12/07/2025 23:44

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 12/07/2025 23:11

Israel bans all fishing and even swimming in Gaza's waters.

https://x.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1943937588282503499

Absolutely inhumane, I saw a video last week of a Palestinian with metal rods in his leg, obviously in pain trying to fish to feed his family.

The people who have allowed this will never be forgiven.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 12/07/2025 23:11

Israel bans all fishing and even swimming in Gaza's waters.

https://x.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1943937588282503499

Twiglets1 · 11/07/2025 10:40

HerNeighbourTotoro · 11/07/2025 09:02

Exactly, the fact people justify this is mind-blowing. The fact that the government is trying to shut down organisations supporting Palestine and free speech under the antisemitism umbrella even more so.

What organisations has the UK shut down just for supporting Palestine?

I think you'll find that none is the answer.

But I'm interested in which ones you have in mind.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 11/07/2025 09:02

MissyB1 · 11/07/2025 08:36

And just as sickening why do so many people (including lots of mumsnetters) attempt to justify these sort of horrific attacks? There cannot possibly be any justification, any right minded person knows that.

Exactly, the fact people justify this is mind-blowing. The fact that the government is trying to shut down organisations supporting Palestine and free speech under the antisemitism umbrella even more so.

MissyB1 · 11/07/2025 08:36

Eyesopenwideawake · 10/07/2025 22:17

The news reports of children blown apart at a medical centre is sickening. What is wrong with the people who do this? And why is the world sitting back and allowing it to continue?

And just as sickening why do so many people (including lots of mumsnetters) attempt to justify these sort of horrific attacks? There cannot possibly be any justification, any right minded person knows that.

Eyesopenwideawake · 10/07/2025 22:17

The news reports of children blown apart at a medical centre is sickening. What is wrong with the people who do this? And why is the world sitting back and allowing it to continue?

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/07/2025 20:11

The former first minister of Scotland, Humza Yousaf

‘They’re not building a humanitarian city. They’re building a slaughterhouse. That’s what Israel’s defence minister has just announced- plan to forcibly move Palestinians into what they’re calling a humanitarian city. Built on the ruins of Rafah. Let’s call it what it really is, a modern day internment camp. This isn’t about safety. It’s about control, containment, collective punishment. It’s about taking a population already starved, bombed and brutalised and herding them into a man-made prison with simply no way out. And remember, this is the same Israeli government that has repeatedly ignored international law. The same Israeli government that has systematically targeted civilians, hospitals and workers and journalists. You think that they’re the ones who are suddenly concerned with humanitarian care? No. This is a staging ground for more bloodshed. A death trap disguised as compassion. We are watching in real time the architecture of genocide with bulldozers instead of barbed wire. This isn’t a safe zone. It’s a siege zone. And the worst part? They’ll dress it up in the language of aid and expect the world to clap. Don’t be fooled. Dont let them rename oppression as mercy. this isn’t a humanitarian city. It’s a crime scene under construction.’

Defenestre · 03/07/2025 20:45

I know the Israel- Iran war only lasted 12 days but even so, the pro Israel people were not posting about every death that occurred to Israel civilians.

The anti-genocide people are not posting about every death that happens to Palestinians civilians either. There are far too many of them for that to be possible even if they wanted to.

Odras · 03/07/2025 20:19

I read this article a few days ago and this bit just jumped out at me.

Currently, there is no screening process for Palestinians who seek to collect aid, meaning that Hamas members are likely also arriving and picking up food packages. In the coming weeks, the IDF hopes that a screening process may begin, along with the opening of additional aid sites.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/dozens-said-killed-in-gaza-idf-admits-it-has-killed-several-civilians-near-aid-sites/amp/

It’s almost like it had nothing to do with preventing Hamas getting aid.

MissyB1 · 03/07/2025 15:24

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:16

Well they would do as they were the ones that had the contracts before to deliver aid in Gaza. The UN was denying that Hamas was stealing a lot of the aid they were responsible for delivering but that wasn’t true. Hamas are very threatened by the new aid distribution centres & have targeted local aid workers. That tells me they would prefer to return to the old system because that benefitted them financially.

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Aaah yes the charity workers/NGOs are liars, just like the healthcare workers that tell the us about what the IDF are up to eh? 🙄

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:59

Whatsinanamehey · 03/07/2025 14:51

Recently some clan members tried to distribute aid in the north and the IDF bombed them and those who were collecting the aid. They said it was because they were affiliated with Hamas but no proof given.
They also completely ignored how depraved it looks that regardless of who the IDF think they were, they bombed and killed starving people who were collecting aid in an area where there are no aid centres so no other options.

The IDF are being completely ruthless in their goal of eliminating Hamas and those associated with Hamas.

I don’t agree with how many civilians are getting killed in the process. But they won’t stop until a ceasefire deal is agreed by both sides so that is something Hamas need to be encouraged to do just as much as the IDF.

Whatsinanamehey · 03/07/2025 14:51

Recently some clan members tried to distribute aid in the north and the IDF bombed them and those who were collecting the aid. They said it was because they were affiliated with Hamas but no proof given.
They also completely ignored how depraved it looks that regardless of who the IDF think they were, they bombed and killed starving people who were collecting aid in an area where there are no aid centres so no other options.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:50

Whatsinanamehey · 03/07/2025 14:47

I don't see how they would have been able to just close down the ones in the North. There were too many and would need constant IDF presence there to stop them from operating aswell as soldiers for fighting. This way was much sneakier, close the whole system down and then promise to open centres in the north whilst really not intending to.

They can do what they want they have plenty of soldiers.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:48

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 03/07/2025 14:45

I consider that weak argument sorry
Really don't care what you think of my posts, I'm not here to appease you

Have you forgotten they blocked aid entirely for over 12 weeks and came under huge pressure to rectify that with Netanyahu saying countries won't accept seeing starving people (he didn't actually card about starving people just the negative publicity). Blocking humanitarian aid is collective punishment and a war crime.

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No I haven’t forgotten that.

If anything, that proves my point that the IDF could have just continued blocking all aid in the North but allowed it to enter freely in the South if their main objective was to move people from the North to the South as per the theory suggested by @Whatsinanamehey

Whatsinanamehey · 03/07/2025 14:47

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:42

I consider that a weak argument, sorry.

The one put forward by @Whatsinanamehey is a bit more credible in my opinion.

But I think the IDF could have just shut down all aid centres in the North if they wanted to, even under the old system.

I don't see how they would have been able to just close down the ones in the North. There were too many and would need constant IDF presence there to stop them from operating aswell as soldiers for fighting. This way was much sneakier, close the whole system down and then promise to open centres in the north whilst really not intending to.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 03/07/2025 14:45

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:42

I consider that a weak argument, sorry.

The one put forward by @Whatsinanamehey is a bit more credible in my opinion.

But I think the IDF could have just shut down all aid centres in the North if they wanted to, even under the old system.

I consider that weak argument sorry
Really don't care what you think of my posts, I'm not here to appease you

Have you forgotten they blocked aid entirely for over 12 weeks and came under huge pressure to rectify that with Netanyahu saying countries won't accept seeing starving people (he didn't actually card about starving people just the negative publicity). Blocking humanitarian aid is collective punishment and a war crime.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:44

@ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend I do not wish to imply that people who believe the UN are outliers.

I have just said that I accept that others consider them a reliable source.

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2025 14:42

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 03/07/2025 14:38

I already gave the reason I think why.

Edited to add you make it sound like posters here are outliers in believing the UN which is clearly not the case!

Edited

I consider that a weak argument, sorry.

The one put forward by @Whatsinanamehey is a bit more credible in my opinion.

But I think the IDF could have just shut down all aid centres in the North if they wanted to, even under the old system.

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