This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 6)

I am similarly angry too, I am beyond words at this point. Trump did an interview with Fox last night where he mentioned 1.9 million Palestinians in Gaza, that's a wide discrepancy from the pre October 7th population of 2.1 to 2.2 million.

It's a systemic barbaric extermination:

"Israel named its latest Gaza assault “Gideon’s Chariots.”
In Judges, Gideon leads a divine slaughter—120,000 dead. Chariots symbolized unstoppable war.
This isn’t just biblical branding. It’s an extermination campaign draped in scripture.
And Gaza is cast as the Midianites.
#GideonsChariots "

Thank you very much @Mylegishangingoff

Then it reports that before publication government officials who were asked refused to comment on this, but then, after publication an official spokesperson arrived to say it was ‘untrue’.

So we don’t absolutely know. We get an intentional fog.

Meanwhile, 100s more Palestinians are getting killed in Gaza everyday by U.S. supplied weapons and no U.S. stopping them.

The UN aid chief has said the escalation coupled with the blockade of aid is 'tantamount to ethnic cleansing'

There's a huge demo in London today protesting against our useless government who is complicit in this genocide.

The genocide in Gaza has ramped up in the last week. Palestinians are being massacred at an unprecedented scale. I have no words I'm just so angry.

End of an Era - Israel will need to start paying their own bills in the Trumpian era- the days of an almost blank cheque are over. He never was a Zionist but always a Trumpist and if Jonathon Freeland is sounding the alarm then it truly is alarming. The Arabs have bought their peace and Trump never forgot Netanhayu was the first leader to recognise and congrtaulate Biden.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/16/donald-trump-middle-east-tour-should-terrify-benjamin-netanyahu-usa-israel

As loudly and clearly as he can, Trump is telling Netanyahu that he is no longer No 1 and that he will not get in the way of whatever Trump decides best serves US, and his own, interests. Part of this is born of frustration with Netanyahu for failing to play his part in getting the Middle East to the stability, and therefore prosperity, that Trump thinks is possible and potentially profitable for the US. Put simply, what Trump wants from Netanyahu is to get the war on Hamas wrapped up and off the world’s TV screens – and the Israeli PM is not delivering.
You could hear that frustration in the remarks of Trump’s personal envoy, Steve Witkoff, to hostage families in Israel this week: “We want to bring the hostages home, but Israel is not willing to end the war. Israel is prolonging it.”

Trump just wants to take Gaza for himself @Odras

As reported in the Guardian:

President Donald Trump said on Thursday he wanted the United States to “take” Gaza and turn it into a “freedom zone”, as the Israel-Hamas war rages on in the Palestinian territory, reports Agence France-Presse (AFP).
“I have concepts for Gaza that I think are very good, make it a freedom zone, let the United States get involved and make it just a freedom zone,” the US leader said in Qatar, adding:
I’d be proud to have the United States have it, take it, make it a freedom zone.

www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/15/israel-gaza-donald-trump-gulf-qatar-uae-iran-middle-east-crisis-live

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-working-plan-move-1-million-palestinians-libya-rcna207224

Please would you link that information if possible?

Honestly the Eurovision is nothing. It’s a song contest. It does not make a difference.

We need to start imposing severe economic consequences on Israel. There has been many words and very little action. Are we really going to sit here and watch a genocide happen in real time when we have Israeli cosmetics on our dressing tables and Israeli veg in the fridge.

I read tonight that he is planning to ethnically cleanse 1million Palestinians from Gaza to Libya. Apparently In exchange, the US would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that were frozen more than a decade ago.

I think it’s a tiny slither of hope that Trump is changing his tune. Who knows what was involved in these deals he’s made over the last few days. I don’t think he’s got a humanitarian bone in his body but I wonder will he just get pissed off that after being armed up to to the back teeth by the US, Israel has gone rogue and is essentially uncontrollable and being the ultimate pain in the neck for him.

We have to help also out the Palestinians. You know, a lot of people are starving in Gaza, so we have to look at both sides," he said. When asked if he backed Israel's war plans, Trump said he expected "good things" over the next month
https://www.tbsnews.net/hamas-israel-war/deadly-israeli-strikes-pound-gaza-trump-says-people-are-starving-1143976?amp

As an aside how did Israel manage to stay in the Eurovision comp?!😮 how do they do it because wasn't Russia kicked out last year ?🤔

I think its the same with the West Bank. Lots just pretend it's not happening, a kind of well it's not my business, I'm not a settler attitude. Not enough people actively care for there to be change.

One has to ask though how many countries would actively care enough? Islamaphobia is rife right now. It's the driving force behind the lack of action by the West on Palestine because we all know if it were Israelis that were being pushed into concentrated areas of Israel and photos of starved Israeli babies were coming out people wouldn't be making excuses for it. Action would be taken to get those poor babies enough nutrition to survive. There is so much dehunanisation when it comes to Palestinians that a lot of people not just Israelis simply don't care. It's awful but it's the truth.

It's part of the reason some people are so convinced that people talking about starvation, disease, bombings and war crimes are doing it because they antisemetic. They cannot grasp that some people would actually care what happens to Palestinians, its just such a foreign concept to them that they scramble around looking for another reason that people are talking about it.

Yes, I think you are right.

I can well believe that most Israelis don’t grasp the level of suffering of Palestinians or care about it. Yes of course you can access any news if you want to but most of us look at our old reliable news sources. They also have a completely different view of the history of the area generally and the history of the conflict. Israel has always been surrounded by threat, it values military might. We see here the comment what if French people came over and murdered 1000 people? When honestly it’s bonkers to think that we’d annihilate France or that anyone reasonable would want to. But clearly some people are approaching this from a completely different perspective.

The Israeli administration has also put a lot of effort into smearing any criticism with anti semitism and using highly manipulative tactics like holding up the picture of the Bibas family to justify their actions.

So I can understand why they don’t seek out what is happening with Palestinians even though I don’t agree with it. More power to the Israelis, who despite their education and under great criticism, are speaking out for Gaza.

Yes, you have explained that Channel 4 interview better than I did. It is collusion between the media and the people. The people don’t want to know and the media comply.

Well OK there will be censorship, but the Internet exists so very few states in the world can truly hide world events / except maybe North Korea (and then only to a certain extent). The key part of what Gideon Levy said (for me anyway) was "care about" he was saying they don't want to know. It doesn't suit them to acknowledge their Government are commiting a genocide.

I agree there is no excuse for anyone not to be aware of the reality of the situation.. especially when we read of Israelis actively trying to view the destruction through boat trips and viewing points.
Plus with conscription I imagine there are very few families without members on active duty.

I do struggle with this personally. The same argument is made about Russians and Ukraine and the response is that the information is there if only a person is willing to seek it out. So far as I’m aware the internet etc isn’t restricted in Israel so there’s nothing stopping Israelis from seeing the truth.

On Channel 4 right now an Israeli reporter from Haaretz, Gideon Levy, says most Israelis only know about the hostages in Gaza and the danger they are in. They don’t see, or know about, or care about what is happening to Palestinians there, and Israeli news outlets support them in this state of not knowing.

I don't know if he completely does. Netanyahu has come out all guns blazing vowing death and destruction and he is certainly following it through. He doesn't care about anybody because he has been backed into a corner. Also I actually believe he is intelligent enough to know he is facing war crime trials and that he may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

But I do agree with you that Trump is where the money is without it can Israel sustain the level of destruction and bombing it has. Especially if Trump is eyeing up rebuilding Gaza for his casinos he will want to save the pennies.

I meant Trump is the only one with any sway over netanyahu!

With friends like Trump who needs enemies?

It’s true they seem alone though. A massive miscalculation on the part of Hamas.

He’s a raging racist and those dying aren’t the types of people he gives a shit about. It doesn’t surprise me he’s turning a blind eye to their suffering.

what?!