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To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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devourfeculence · 04/04/2025 20:44

Idkw2d · 04/04/2025 19:27

Surprise! I didn’t say that.

Not sure why my comment was deleted but I said people who do not value other people’s lives because they live in Palestine shouldn’t be given any privilege or any value to their own life either.

Israel is indiscriminately killing Palestinians and anyone who justifies the genocide should be ashamed of themselves.

First they came for… and I did not speak… the poem by Niemoller is so relevant here.

You said that people who defend Israel should face mass killings and genocide. Which is why it was deleted.

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 20:33

Sorkh · 04/04/2025 20:21

Israeli's were forcibly evicted from Gaza in 2005. In the hope of peace. Which hasn't happened. The extreme Islamist force has hit hard there. It needs to be defeated before there can be any positive changes.

They were paid off by their own government to move out of occupied lands. They were given between $150000 and $400000 to move back to Israel. Considering you are comparing this with what Israel are doing to Palestinians are you under the impression that Israel are paying Palestinians hundreds of thousands of dollars when they forcibly move them? Or what exactly was your point in comparing violent evictions from your homeland with being paid to go back to your homeland?

Sorkh · 04/04/2025 20:21

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 20:13

So what do you call driving people out of their homeland and annexing it like Israel are doing in the West Bank and Gaza?

If Israelis were being forced out of their homes in Israel and being told they would be allowed to return what would you call it?

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Israeli's were forcibly evicted from Gaza in 2005. In the hope of peace. Which hasn't happened. The extreme Islamist force has hit hard there. It needs to be defeated before there can be any positive changes.

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 20:13

OppsUpsSide · 04/04/2025 19:50

Would you settle for attempted ethnic cleansing? Is that a better way to phrase it?

No.

So what do you call driving people out of their homeland and annexing it like Israel are doing in the West Bank and Gaza?

If Israelis were being forced out of their homes in Israel and being told they would be allowed to return what would you call it?

OppsUpsSide · 04/04/2025 19:50

Would you settle for attempted ethnic cleansing? Is that a better way to phrase it?

No.

Idkw2d · 04/04/2025 19:31

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So “let them all burn” shouldn’t be deleted??

but my comment on people who don’t value Palestinian lives being unworthy of respect was deleted?? lol!

its a genocide, like it or not

israel is a terrorist state and nothing will change that

anyone who justifies the indiscriminate killing of Palestinian lives deserves no sympathy

Idkw2d · 04/04/2025 19:28

blackmousewhitetail · 04/04/2025 14:57

Not sure why the Muslims countries around aren't helping

You have seen what Israel/USA did and continues to do to Yemen and Lebanon, no?

Idkw2d · 04/04/2025 19:27

devourfeculence · 04/04/2025 14:39

You're actually saying that people should be killed for having an opinion?

Surprise! I didn’t say that.

Not sure why my comment was deleted but I said people who do not value other people’s lives because they live in Palestine shouldn’t be given any privilege or any value to their own life either.

Israel is indiscriminately killing Palestinians and anyone who justifies the genocide should be ashamed of themselves.

First they came for… and I did not speak… the poem by Niemoller is so relevant here.

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 18:46

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Let close to a million children burn in retaliation? Is that what you mean?

Martymcfly24 · 04/04/2025 18:45

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Absolutely Hamas have committed some horrendous atrocities on civilians and deserve their fate.

However I presume you have the same feelings for the IDF soldiers who have also carried out the most horrendous atrocities also.on civilians in the past 18 months. Children snipered in the head. Children who have lost limbs at they were shot at as they ran from a helicopter, 80 year old man used as a human shield and soldiers preventing an ambulance attending a 12 year old they had shot in the back.

Because if you have a problem with evil actions you surely have a problem with both sides.

moosenuckle · 04/04/2025 18:37

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MissyB1 · 04/04/2025 18:37

Sorkh · 04/04/2025 18:02

Neither. It's a war. People die in wars, that's unfortunate but inevitable. And remember who started it.

Telling the population they have to move or they will be killed isn't ethnic cleansing you say?? Oh really....

Elunajeya · 04/04/2025 18:29

Well, yes. ‘Someone’ is Hamas, they could release the hostages

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 18:10

Sorkh · 04/04/2025 18:02

Neither. It's a war. People die in wars, that's unfortunate but inevitable. And remember who started it.

That's what you call seizing large areas of Gaza and the West Bank and forcing the people who live there out?

And yes I realise Israel restarted the war when they refused to move onto phase 2 of the ceasefire which would have meant that the hostages were safe with their families weeks ago and Israel would have gone back to just killing Palestinians here and there rather than on the mass scale they have been doing. They wouldn't have been able to seize land in Gaza though so....

Sorkh · 04/04/2025 18:02

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 17:51

Would you settle for attempted ethnic cleansing? Is that a better way to phrase it?

Neither. It's a war. People die in wars, that's unfortunate but inevitable. And remember who started it.

Mylegishangingoff · 04/04/2025 17:51

OppsUpsSide · 04/04/2025 17:49

It’s not a genocide.

Would you settle for attempted ethnic cleansing? Is that a better way to phrase it?

Martymcfly24 · 04/04/2025 17:49

Haaretz (Israeli news) March 31

Ending the Gaza War Is Not on Netanyahu's Agenda Under Any Circumstances, Even to Return Hostages
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at Sunday's cabinet meeting that even if a deal is reached to free all hostages, ending the war is not on the agenda.

Copied from another poster on another thread.

It will not end tomorrow if the hostages are returned.

Smotrich announced they are in the process of setting up an " immigration directorate" to resettle (ethnically cleanse) all Palestinians.

And op you are correct the world has turned a blind eye to the atrocities and murder.

OppsUpsSide · 04/04/2025 17:49

It’s not a genocide.

Mercurial123 · 04/04/2025 17:49

PurpleChrayn · 03/04/2025 22:14

It’s not a genocide.

Hamas have exaggerated the figures.

It could end tomorrow if the hostages are released and Hamas stands down.

You keep saying this but it doesn't make it true.

It's a genocide.

AirborneElephant · 04/04/2025 17:44

blackmousewhitetail · 04/04/2025 14:57

Not sure why the Muslims countries around aren't helping

Helping how? They don’t care about Gaza and do not want Hamas in their countries. They absolutely will not participate in any war on behalf of Gaza (unless we’re talking Lebanon which is already effectively at war). And they very definitely don’t want to accept any Palestinians into their countries as they would inevitably cause violence and tension wherever they go. And no, I’m not in the slightest saying that all Palestinians are terrorists, but it would be almost impossible to relocate a sizeable proportion of the population without including a large number of militants and Hamas soldiers / supporters.

It’s a horrible situation, both Hamas and Netanyahu are setting impossible conditions, and no other countries are going to intervene. I can’t see any outcome other than Israel occupying Gaza and getting tied up in a decades long gorilla war. I really despair for the innocents and young children there 😢

MissyB1 · 04/04/2025 17:39

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/04/2025 17:20

It bloody well is a genocide. Israel needs to STOP. Uk and other countries should stop supporting them.

100% this 👆

Comedycook · 04/04/2025 17:28

PurpleChrayn · 03/04/2025 22:14

It’s not a genocide.

Hamas have exaggerated the figures.

It could end tomorrow if the hostages are released and Hamas stands down.

Exactly.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 04/04/2025 17:20

It bloody well is a genocide. Israel needs to STOP. Uk and other countries should stop supporting them.

TheFastTraybake · 04/04/2025 16:46

I recommend people watch the documentary Israel and the Palestinians: The Road to 7th October. It's even handed with a range of interviewees from all sides (largely men though which is telling) and shows that resolving the situation isn't just as uncomplicated as one side or the other somehow seeing sense. Hamas profit financially from keeping the conflict going, and Netanyahu benefits in ways which are obvious. It's three hours but in three parts and well worth investing the time if you want to gain greater understanding.

ParsnipPuree · 04/04/2025 15:12

PurpleChrayn · 03/04/2025 22:14

It’s not a genocide.

Hamas have exaggerated the figures.

It could end tomorrow if the hostages are released and Hamas stands down.

This.. absolutely.

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