To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

@mumsnet The person who started this thread is an anti semite. They are trying to minimise Hamas terrorists putting on go pros to go out and deliberately rape and murder children, women and men during a cease fire. Hamas terrorists started a war and obviously must surrender unconditionally and release any further living or dead hostages they still have and that is the only possible way for the war to stop.

Only a violently anti semitic hateful person would dream of telling Jewish people to lay down their arms to terrorists who assaulted them in a long planned horrifying murderous war out of the blue, who murdered and raped people attending a music concert and strangled babies who were hostages.

The realiities of what Hamas did are well reported. No other country or race has EVER been told to surrender to the terrorists who started a war by raping and slaughtering their women and children.

This thread is filled with anti Jewish hate speech and should be taken down.

I am reporting you over and over for anti semitic hate speech. You are blaming the people whose women, children and men were raped and murdered in a war they did not start for not laying down their arms to the horrific, montrous rapist murderer terrorists who started the war.

I am going to report every single comment you have made. Never speak at me again. You make my skin crawl.

On the 7th October there was a cease fire. On the 8th of October Hamas terrorists put Go Pros on and went out to rape and murder Jewish women, children and men. They strangled babies to death that they were holding hostage. They had planned this carefully.

When they finally were forced to start releasing hostages they made them walk through a baying mob of terrorists screaming abuse at them. They made them thank their rapist captors and gave them gift bags as they were leaving.

When they surrender, unconditionally, and release any remaining dead bodies and live hostages then the war that they chose to start and carefully planned to slaughter civilians in will be over.

In no other circumstances would the people who were savagely raped and murdered during a cease fire, who had a war started against them, be told to lay down their arms and trust the people who raped, murdered and slaughtered them out of the blue and filmed it on Go Pros.

I am reporting this thread for anti semitic hate speech.

You think that will save Palestinians? Or Israelis???🤯

You agree that Israel value life when they have killed more children than all other conflicts in the world combined in the last 4 years? You agree that Israel value life when they are preventing life saving medical care from reaching Gaza? You agree Israel value life when in 2023 prior to Oct 7 they had already killed 10s of Palestinian children the youngest just a toddler along with 100s of adults? If that's what 'valuing life' looks like to you I have to wonder if you think there is any value in Palestinian lives at all because to agree that denying life saving aid and burning children to death as they shelter in tents is what 'valuing life' looks like is shocking.

What exactly do you think would happen if Hamas didn't exist? Israels military occupation of Gaza precedes Hamas. It existed before why would it not exist after especially when Netanyahu is so anti a two state solution and so pro colonisation that he quit in disgust when Israelis were paid to leave their settlements Gaza in 2005.

Palestinians live in the West Bank too, what would getting rid of Hamas do for those Palestinians? Would they all live happily ever after, would they get their homes and land back from the Israeli settlers? Would the daily violent attacks from Israeli settlers against Palestinians stop? Would their children stop getting shot at and carted off to administrative detention to be kept without charge and abused?

I'd love to hear how exactly you think Palestinians destroying Hamas would solve these issues? I know there's a lot of questions there so you can start with the West Bank, what would life look like for Palestinians in the West Bank if Hamas were destroyed?

Yeah, I have to agree. I think the only way forward for Palestinians would be to destroy Hamas.

They are forcing the Death March of Palestinians from one lethal and dangerous place to another lethal and dangerous place so they can blame deaths on something other than bombs and bullets. Injury, disease, lack of food and healthcare.

It's still ethnic cleansing. It's still a Death March.

What happened to me? That’s my story

The Houthis on the other hand send no warnings like hammas don’t

They are moving people and they also give warning before they attack. Is Russia doing that? Are the Congo doing that? I could go on…

Didn’t realise it was a spelling test. As it’s not an English word you work it how you want and I’ll spell it how I want

To anyone on this thread doubting that this is a genocide, you’re brainwashed. WAKE UP.

There is warrant out for BN’s arrest by the ICC for his genocide war crimes.

The UN has classed it so based on clear evidence. Palestinians in Gaza are trapped and being annihilated. 50% of them are children.

Remember when they bombed the first hospital by ‘mistake’… now look.

YANBU @BotanicalCake.

Unfortunately the only people who can stop the mass murders in Gaza are those who are doing it and their supporters. A minority enacting, facilitating and supporting mass murder for their own ends.

They’re not only not helping but for a long time they refused to take any refugees. Now why do you think that is?

Is there another army in the world that blocks all aid for over a month? What's Israels intention blocking children from having cancer treatment, medication for diabetes or other life threatening conditions? If they don't want these children to die what are they doing to help them, they know they can't survive without medication. You can't block medical care and then pretend that the intentional isn't to kill people, what other intention could there be?

Remember the outrage at an ambulance being blocked by those eco campaigners in the UK? One ambulance generated 1000s and 1000s of outraged comments online and off. People wanted the perpetrators locked up for life. Israel are purposefully blocking 10s of 1000s of people from receiving any treatment at all and you are here talking them up and telling people to look elsewhere. What happened to you?

They don’t seem to be moving people away from areas that they attack now. I mean they weren’t consistent before but they had the US wagging the finger at them before. They aren’t even pretending that they care about international law now. They have been emboldened by Trump. Sure just 6 months ago annexation of Gaza was just a fantasy. Now it is going to happen.

They have already said that the war won’t end even if the hostages are returned. They are preparing for the “voluntary” migration of Gazan’s. The suffering of Palestinians is horrifying.

It’s also bigger than that though. A war criminal is being hosted by an EU country and the US is supplying the weapons and being completely silent about the atrocities. These far right populist governments are changing the whole world order. It feels a bit scary to be honest. We may as well rip up international law. It is meaningless now and we will all be less safe because of it. I truly believe we are entering a time when there will be more wars where more civilians are targeted.

1. Releasing hostages won't stop the slaughter according to Netanyahu.
2. IDF use human shields also.
3. Hamas and their actions are evil and thank God people are protesting.

Yes, hopefully Hamas will choose to release the hostages and surrender, or at least stop using the people of Gaza as human shields and torturing and murdering the brave people who have been protesting against them.

But that would require Hamas to care about the people of Gaza so I won't hold my breath.

I feel deaperately helpless reading these articles. My heart breaks for Palestine

Shameful answer.

There is wrong on both sides of this conflict but to say it is "total bs" is a slur on the memory of the thousands of civilians that have been butchered.

And it's spelt Hamas.

if the IDF were so good at genocide there would be no one left in Gaza. Is there any other army in the world that gives “notice” to ask civilians to move away from the specific areas they are going to attack?
Genocide? It’s hammas propaganda and total bs.
Maybe look at other awful conflicts in the world where they really are decimating entire ethnic groups instead and talk about them.