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To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 14:34

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 14:16

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.

why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the 110 current conflicts??

Now tell me you’re not sowing anti semitic propaganda??

You are just desperate for people to stop talking about it aren't you? It's always pro Israel people who are desperate for people to turn away, it's no wonder really is it? Its been difficult to defend the repeated breaches of International law for a while now. It would be much easier if people just pretended not to seem them.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 14:30

@cindyhove All genocide is bad.
This in particular is bad because The West actively backs it. My elected politicians are backing it, my tax money is backing it. The country where I live sends arms to perpetrate it. Allows artillery shipments to pass through our ports unchecked to perpetuate it. Sends air force to protect it. Blocks reporting on it.

We shouldn’t actively back it.

Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 14:28

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 14:16

a surviving aid worker telling the story of what happened wasn't enough for the world

Although the surviving aid worker said the vehicles always travelled with their internal lights on - which doesn't appear to be the case here. The person filming on his phone is clearly sitting in a dark cabin.

And? What is your point in posting that small detail that a traumatised man who had watched his crewmates be executed got wrong? Are you attempting to defend the killing of aid workers and Israels lying in an attempt to cover up what are clearly cold blooded executions? I notice that you haven't condemned their killings, does it not bother you at all you that Israel are clearly breaking international law and if the brave aid worker had not have filmed his own execution Israels lies would have been the prevailing narrative?

Wibble128 · 05/04/2025 14:26

Release the hostages, let the worlds press in on the Hamas side of the lines to report subjectively. Stop sending untargetted rockets into Israel. Would be a good start. Contacting the IDF to let them know the locations of Hamas terorists. Or just let Israel hunt down and finish off Hamas.

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 14:16

As of April 5, 2025, numerous armed conflicts are ongoing worldwide, varying in scale and intensity. According to the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights, over 110 armed conflicts are currently being monitored, encompassing both international and non-international engagements.

why is israel the only one to be demonised out of the 110 current conflicts??

Now tell me you’re not sowing anti semitic propaganda??

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 14:16

a surviving aid worker telling the story of what happened wasn't enough for the world

Although the surviving aid worker said the vehicles always travelled with their internal lights on - which doesn't appear to be the case here. The person filming on his phone is clearly sitting in a dark cabin.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 14:13

ViolaPlains · 05/04/2025 10:48

That’s an absolute false equivalence and bears no resemblance.

Can you say in what way?

Mylegishangingoff · 05/04/2025 14:04

Silence1 · 05/04/2025 13:33

Agreed OP
It's absolutely disgusting what Israel is doing.
A disgrace that the UK Govt calls them our ally.
Not only is Israel's behavior in Gaza of concern but also in Syria and Lebanon.
Israel is lobbying the US to allow Russia to stay in Syria. Israel wants Syria to stay weak and destabilized and they also want to land grab there. They are ignoring international calls to pull back out of Syria and continually strike it.

And it appears Israel maybe lying again just like they did when they murdered British citizens and the World Kitchen aid workers Video emerges of aid workers being fired on in Gaza - contradicting Israeli account of deadly attack | World News | Sky News

It's so awful. The killing of aid workers in cold blood and the destruction of live saving equipment. It's really horrifying to know that those poor workers knew that they would have to film their own deaths in order for it to be believed. 15 murdered aid workers buried in a mass grave and a surviving aid worker telling the story of what happened wasn't enough for the world. They needed the men to film their own deaths before some(still not all) will listen.

Clavinova · 05/04/2025 13:46

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/04/2025 12:51

They did surrender already with the 3 phase ceasefire that Israel agreed to but then broke for no good reason. Their conditions were not unreasonable and focussed on humanitarian aid, release of prisoners and detainees- women and children first in return for hostages, then phase 2 would have been withdrawal of Israel from the strip to be replaced by US & Egyptian peacekeepers, then phase 3 Hamas relinquishes all power to the PA.

the “surrender unconditionally” axiom isn’t part of modern warfare or ethics. It was in ancient times when surrender meant death or slavery for the conquered.

phase 3 Hamas relinquishes all power to the PA

When did Hamas agree to relinquish all power to the PA?

Stage three
The final part of the agreement would see:
The return of all remaining bodies of dead hostages
The reconstruction of Gaza, which is expected to take years

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5klgv5zv0o

Silence1 · 05/04/2025 13:42

Turkey is in Nato and Israel isn't.
Israel didn't sanction Russia and wants Russia to stay in Syria.
Interesting. But of course Israel's actions are all a result of 7th October? or more likely the progression of a far right aggressive Israeli Govt agenda

Israeli strikes in Syria a challenge to Turkey - BBC News

debris at Hama military airport after an Israeli air strike on 3 April 2025.

Israeli strikes in Syria a challenge to Turkey

Israeli air strikes on bases in Syria are a warning to Turkey to keep its military assets away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27y7e2vk9o

Gansy · 05/04/2025 13:40

Silence1 · 05/04/2025 13:33

Agreed OP
It's absolutely disgusting what Israel is doing.
A disgrace that the UK Govt calls them our ally.
Not only is Israel's behavior in Gaza of concern but also in Syria and Lebanon.
Israel is lobbying the US to allow Russia to stay in Syria. Israel wants Syria to stay weak and destabilized and they also want to land grab there. They are ignoring international calls to pull back out of Syria and continually strike it.

And it appears Israel maybe lying again just like they did when they murdered British citizens and the World Kitchen aid workers Video emerges of aid workers being fired on in Gaza - contradicting Israeli account of deadly attack | World News | Sky News

I saw this too. Medical workers. It’s so distressing.

It’s not the first mass grave dug by the IDF. It’s so out of control.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 13:37

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 13:36

I already have

Perhaps I’ve missed it then - show me how.

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 13:36

Gansy · 05/04/2025 13:35

Lead the way.

I already have

Gansy · 05/04/2025 13:35

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 13:12

You know nothing about living in the area. Get a life centred on where you live

Lead the way.

Gansy · 05/04/2025 13:34

What do you think Israeli Govt should do with the 1000s of Palestinians prisoners they have taken into their jails without charge, trial or access to legal counsel - I’m largely referring to before October 7th. Do you not see that was seen as their people being taken?

Without this understanding from both sides it will never get there.

Say what we will about Hamas standing down, and I hope they do, but Israeli gov has caused much avoidable violence on innocent people. From the misuse of chemical weapons, HUGE bombs in densely populated areas and missiles which shed blades - designed to cut off limbs, sniping of children, drones with the cries of children to distress to draw out civilians to help them.There are ways to do less harm.

This isn’t defence, is unbridled vengeance. They have targeted journalists and refused to let in any other media outlets because they don’t want to world to see it.

Silence1 · 05/04/2025 13:33

Agreed OP
It's absolutely disgusting what Israel is doing.
A disgrace that the UK Govt calls them our ally.
Not only is Israel's behavior in Gaza of concern but also in Syria and Lebanon.
Israel is lobbying the US to allow Russia to stay in Syria. Israel wants Syria to stay weak and destabilized and they also want to land grab there. They are ignoring international calls to pull back out of Syria and continually strike it.

And it appears Israel maybe lying again just like they did when they murdered British citizens and the World Kitchen aid workers Video emerges of aid workers being fired on in Gaza - contradicting Israeli account of deadly attack | World News | Sky News

Video emerges of aid workers being fired on in Gaza - contradicting Israeli account of deadly attack

The bodies of 15 aid workers were found in a "mass grave" after the incident.

https://news.sky.com/story/video-emerges-of-aid-workers-being-fired-on-in-gaza-contradicting-israeli-account-of-deadly-attack-13342194

caringcarer · 05/04/2025 13:18

PurpleChrayn · 03/04/2025 22:14

It’s not a genocide.

Hamas have exaggerated the figures.

It could end tomorrow if the hostages are released and Hamas stands down.

Exactly, Hamas are causing the deaths by their hostage taking and then when they were supposed to release hostages they released dead bodies. Hamas need to release the remaining hostages and stand down so Gaza can be rebuilt.

cindyhove · 05/04/2025 13:12

Gansy · 05/04/2025 12:16

You don’t speak for all Jewish people. Your support here is voiced for Israeli not Jewish people - there are so many Jewish people who’ll disagree with the actions of the current Israeli govt while also condemning the violence on Israeli’s by Hamas. Using threats and language like that doesn’t make it untrue. I’m not concerned about you reporting my post or calling me anti-Semitic because I know in my heart i’m not. Not condoning systematic violence is not anti-Semitic. so stop trying to weaponise it.

If you think this is a war that began October 7th - you’ve blinkers on. Gaza is on of the most densely populated areas on earth because you’ve a people bunched into a walled territory where they need military permission to travel. Palestinians are not allowed to collect rain water.

Feel equally angry for the 15000 Palestinians children who have been killed. Many of them don’t even know what religion is. For the many who waited under rubble for help that never came. Whose names will never be known or broadcast on the news. Feel equally angry for the complete disregard and disablement of the UN and ICC at the hands of the current Israeli government. Feel angry for the precedence the Israeli govt has now set for the dissolution of human rights and that impact on the collective consciousness of the world. This is a genocide and no amount of hearts ‘This’ will change that.

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You know nothing about living in the area. Get a life centred on where you live

Gansy · 05/04/2025 13:09

The imbalance of power is too immense for it to be called a war. Innocent Palestinians are trapped while the most sophisticated weaponry is used upon them and withdrawal of any kind of sustaining resource is used to ensure their death.

I hope in my heart that this will end soon. That whatever is left of Hamas is not supported, that Netenyahu is jailed, that the far right in Israel are not supported. I’m going to remain hopeful for peace.

Martymcfly24 · 05/04/2025 13:08

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 12:50

'This is a genocide'

It isn't genocide. It is a war zone and sadly civilians get killed in wars particularly when the terrorists hide among them.

In your opinion.
How do you feel about Netanyahu refusing to end the war if the hostages are returned and instead announcing a move to "Trump's voluntary migration plan"?

Gloriia · 05/04/2025 12:50

'This is a genocide'

It isn't genocide. It is a war zone and sadly civilians get killed in wars particularly when the terrorists hide among them.

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Gansy · 05/04/2025 12:19

Be my guest. I’m not a Hamas supporter or anti-Semitic. Truth hurts.

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You don’t speak for all Jewish people. Your support here is voiced for Israeli not Jewish people - there are so many Jewish people who’ll disagree with the actions of the current Israeli govt while also condemning the violence on Israeli’s by Hamas. Using threats and language like that doesn’t make it untrue. I’m not concerned about you reporting my post or calling me anti-Semitic because I know in my heart i’m not. Not condoning systematic violence is not anti-Semitic. so stop trying to weaponise it.

If you think this is a war that began October 7th - you’ve blinkers on. Gaza is on of the most densely populated areas on earth because you’ve a people bunched into a walled territory where they need military permission to travel. Palestinians are not allowed to collect rain water.

Feel equally angry for the 15000 Palestinians children who have been killed. Many of them don’t even know what religion is. For the many who waited under rubble for help that never came. Whose names will never be known or broadcast on the news. Feel equally angry for the complete disregard and disablement of the UN and ICC at the hands of the current Israeli government. Feel angry for the precedence the Israeli govt has now set for the dissolution of human rights and that impact on the collective consciousness of the world. This is a genocide and no amount of hearts ‘This’ will change that.