To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

Because (whatever your view) Ulster is part of the UK full of British citizens, it’s also got a good number of Loyalists, Ulster was always open to any visitors from England, the aims of Republicans was the unification of the island of Ireland and not the annihilation of Brits/English. It’s a totally different scenario.

In WW2 the Germans bombed the UK killing thousands, that wasn't genocide it was sadly part of war and we bombed Germany killing thousands, that again wasn't genocide.

The Nazis rounded up and murdered hundreds of thousands of Jews in an attmept to wipe them out, that was genocide.

Can you really not see the difference?!

Civilians have been killed in Gaza because Hamas hide among them. I would bet that will be what this latest tragedy is about.

Be fair? To the soldiers that slaughtered 15 aid workers?

Mylegishangingoff
They were a far, far more a reliable witness that than any of the Israeli soldiers who missed the fact that the aid vehicles were lit up like Christmas trees

Well, to be fair, we only have a quote from the IDF’s international media spokesman - not the soldiers involved.

They were a far, far more a reliable witness that than any of the Israeli soldiers were who missed the fact that the aid vehicles were lit up like Christmas trees as they slaughtered the aid workers and buried them in a mass grave. When they were destroying the life saving equipment to make sure they couldn't be used in future to save Palestinian lives they still apparently missed the fact that they were lit up. Weird that.

It's also weird that you are so focused on the victim and what you think he has done wrong rather than the mass murderers who were breaking International law.

Well, quite - but that still doesn't mean we should accept that every account from a witness is correct because they are Palestinian or an aid worker. If the survivor is inconsistent with details (it's more than one detail) it still may be the case that he didn't actually witness the attack on the other vehicles - even if the outcome is the same.

@Ohdearieme2025 Thank you for standing up in the face of such flagrant antisemitism and support for a terrorist group.

Israel have been waiting for a very, very long time to do something about Gaza and the Palestinians. I'm suspicious as to why Hamas seem to be making this so easy for them. Surely they can't be that stupid? I'm sensing some very murky politics here.

My sincere apologies. I’ve asked MN to remove it.

@Clavinova i no longer trust anything that Israel says or does in this conflict. They have lost the moral high ground, then carried on by an enormous margin. I don’t blame all the Israel people, but any means, but their government are butchers.

@Gansy i think you have misunderstood my post. I think that what IDF has done is despicable.

agreed!

That's not the reason Israel gave for executing them no. An Israeli military spokesman, Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani, said earlier this week that Israeli forces did not “randomly attack” an ambulance, but that several vehicles “were identified advancing suspiciously” without headlights or emergency signals toward Israeli troops, prompting them to shoot.

Clearly that wasn't true was it? So why did they kill 15 aid workers and bury them in a mass grave?

No.

Not justifying anything. It is not genocide though it is a conflict and Hamas are responsible for the civilian deaths by hiding among them.

Longer footage here - one vehicle is filmed with internal lights on.

Well, there’s the flagrant disregard. I’ll rest my case. ISIS like Putin do not living in countries which are part of the ICC!

Package it whatever way you need to justify it for yourself. This is mass extermination on our watch with our tax money.

This is genocide in all of its definitions and opinions like yours support it and perpetrate it.

It’s a bunch of lies too, from Israel Video footage appears to contradict Israeli account of Gaza medic killings https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2z103nqxo

'the ICC’s word'

The ICC . The same group that run around issuing arrest warrants willy nilly with absolutely no effect. Didn't they want to arrest members of ISIS as if it that were even possible or feasible. Now they want to arrest Netanyahu. Sorry, their opinion doesn't count for much.

Genocide is the mass killing of an ethnic group in an attempt to wipe them out. Not retaliation in a conflict which is the case in Gaza.

It is genocide. There is no doubt about it.

I’m going to take the UN and the ICC’s word on this rather than your evidenced opinion.

Mylegishangingoff
What is your point in posting that small detail

I think it's quite an important detail - is there a prior arrangement that emergency vehicles should travel with their internal lights on?

Totally agree.

As the casualty figures don't identify (i) the number of murdering Hamas psychos who have been rightfully killed fighting Israel, nor (ii) the number of actual civilians killed who had been unwillingly pressed into service as human shields for Hamas HQs, arsenals, etc. and (iii) are entirely fictitious anyway, I suggest everybody pipes down and lets Israel finish the job.

'All genocide is bad'

It. Isn't. Genocide.

It is a war zone and palestinian civilians will sadly get killed when Hamas hides among them.