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To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:46

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:41

3 now … a hat trick

Pro-Israeli messages were also deleted, does that get overlooked? Lol

also a deleted comment, does that negate the truth and facts? Keep ignoring them, you’re telling on yourself xx

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 18:46

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:35

But then why don’t you blame Israel for starting the oppression in the first place? Don’t tell me you need to be schooled on the Nakba and the history of Palestine? According to your logic, wouldnt that mean Hamas is just “retaliating” like you said to the decades of oppression?

I’ve asked this about 3 times and you’ve ignored it every time, I wonder why 😅

We all know the history of palestine we've had it constantly on the tv for months.

Nothing justifies the mass abduction and murders on Oct 7th. Nothing.

Hamas are murderers and terrorists, until they are ousted nothing will change.

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:44

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:36

Jewish people can be against the Israeli oppression of Palestine. Nothing to do with being Jewish, everything to do with being a genocide sympathiser.

Why do you think there are such strict border controls between Gaza and Israel ( or Egypt?). It's because they are necessary to protect Israeli citizens from people ( including some children unfortunately) trying to "martyr" themselves and trying to take out as many innocent people with them as they can. That is the mindset that needs to be changed.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:41

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:21

2 of your comments have been deleted so far but I expect at least one other will be soon … keep going if you want 🤷🏼‍♀️

3 now … a hat trick

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:38

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:33

I mean you can keep repeating yourself over and over with your same proven anti Jewish/Israel resources. But just because you repeat yourself it still doesn't make it true. I think everyone gets that you hate Israel. oops extra bold.

This is actually comical - UN, Amnesty, etc. are now anti Jewish because they oppose a genocide?

what on earth 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:36

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:33

I mean you can keep repeating yourself over and over with your same proven anti Jewish/Israel resources. But just because you repeat yourself it still doesn't make it true. I think everyone gets that you hate Israel. oops extra bold.

Jewish people can be against the Israeli oppression of Palestine. Nothing to do with being Jewish, everything to do with being a genocide sympathiser.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:35

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 18:30

No one is supporting murderers. Retaliating to the atrocities on Oct 7th was absolutely predictable. Blame hamas.

But then why don’t you blame Israel for starting the oppression in the first place? Don’t tell me you need to be schooled on the Nakba and the history of Palestine? According to your logic, wouldnt that mean Hamas is just “retaliating” like you said to the decades of oppression?

I’ve asked this about 3 times and you’ve ignored it every time, I wonder why 😅

Sorkh · 06/04/2025 18:33

ThisNattyTurtle · 06/04/2025 07:15

Israel is committing a genocide according to the UN, Amnesty international, Human Rights Watch, and Israeli professors of Holocaust and genocide studies Prof. Omer Bartov, Prof. Raz Segal, Prof. Amos Goldstein.

It's not "people are calling it" it's teams of legal experts.

I mean you can keep repeating yourself over and over with your same proven anti Jewish/Israel resources. But just because you repeat yourself it still doesn't make it true. I think everyone gets that you hate Israel. oops extra bold.

Gansy · 06/04/2025 18:33

Blame each of Hamas and the current Israeli Gov/IDF
They are both perpetrators of extreme violence against innocent people.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 18:30

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No one is supporting murderers. Retaliating to the atrocities on Oct 7th was absolutely predictable. Blame hamas.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:28

Gansy · 06/04/2025 18:24

Well you did say I was.

Sorry for the confusion I’m on my phone but was talking about the poster who has had posts deleted, can’t seem to tag her now.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:27

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Gansy · 06/04/2025 18:24

Well you did say I was.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:23

Gansy · 06/04/2025 18:17

I agree! But look - I’ve not verbally attacked anyone. If Mumsnet thinks I’ve verbally attacked a person, I’m sure they’ll delete whatever is deemed inappropriate and I’ll welcome that.

If you’re not feeling the joy at innocent people, including 15000 kids being murdered by the IDF stop justifying it. You can support Israel without justifying it.

I’m not justifying it.

Anyway, you’re not the one throwing around insults I don’t think.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:21

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:13

One comment you mean?

along with other comments too?

and…?

love how you’re deflecting from the facts though 😘

2 of your comments have been deleted so far but I expect at least one other will be soon … keep going if you want 🤷🏼‍♀️

Gansy · 06/04/2025 18:17

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:03

It’s not like verbally attacking a few random people on Mumsnet helps people in Gaza though.

I don’t think any of us are feeling joy at the many casualties of the war in Gaza.

Doesn’t hurt to engage politely in a debate 🤷🏼‍♀️

I agree! But look - I’ve not verbally attacked anyone. If Mumsnet thinks I’ve verbally attacked a person, I’m sure they’ll delete whatever is deemed inappropriate and I’ll welcome that.

If you’re not feeling the joy at innocent people, including 15000 kids being murdered by the IDF stop justifying it. You can support Israel without justifying it.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:16

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:03

It’s not like verbally attacking a few random people on Mumsnet helps people in Gaza though.

I don’t think any of us are feeling joy at the many casualties of the war in Gaza.

Doesn’t hurt to engage politely in a debate 🤷🏼‍♀️

my previous message was directed at you.

Also I love how my responses are now “verbal attacks” just because I’m describing the realities of an active genocide.

IDF are the real terrorists and anyone who denies that is heavily editing the truth.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:14

Again, you’re more concerned with policing people’s speech on a Mumsnet thread rather than focusing on the active genocide taking place as we speak?

I don’t think the beheaded babies, maimed women and mutilated men will care about how politely we discuss their death, rather what we are doing to ensure this genocide stops

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:13

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 17:51

Have you noticed a few of your comments have been deleted by Mumsnet?

Just a tip but try to talk to people respectfully or you will get banned x

One comment you mean?

along with other comments too?

and…?

love how you’re deflecting from the facts though 😘

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:03

Gansy · 06/04/2025 17:52

If all @Gloriia saw was one ‘smiling bus of well fed Palestinians released from Israeli Jails’ then I think my conclusion of only watching one propaganda heavy TV station was the politest one. Because it’s been ALL OVER THE NEWS on the TV and on the web.

Wow - I would hate to see the sort of things you would say to someone you were trying to belittle!

Fair enough. Me too tbh, but luckily, it doesn’t bring me joy. Same as justifying the deaths of 15,000 kids. Doesn’t bring me joy or motivate me to come here defend armies carrying out war crimes. It’s just not conducive to having peace of mind.

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It’s not like verbally attacking a few random people on Mumsnet helps people in Gaza though.

I don’t think any of us are feeling joy at the many casualties of the war in Gaza.

Doesn’t hurt to engage politely in a debate 🤷🏼‍♀️

Gansy · 06/04/2025 17:52

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 17:49

You don't think it comes across like you are trying to belittle @Gloriia when you are suggesting that she is only allowed to watch one TV station?

Wow - I would hate to see the sort of things you would say to someone you were trying to belittle!

If all @Gloriia saw was one ‘smiling bus of well fed Palestinians released from Israeli Jails’ then I think my conclusion of only watching one propaganda heavy TV station was the politest one. Because it’s been ALL OVER THE NEWS on the TV and on the web.

Wow - I would hate to see the sort of things you would say to someone you were trying to belittle!

Fair enough. Me too tbh, but luckily, it doesn’t bring me joy. Same as justifying the deaths of 15,000 kids. Doesn’t bring me joy or motivate me to come here defend armies carrying out war crimes. It’s just not conducive to having peace of mind.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 17:51

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 17:50

If only you were this emotional about the IDF committing a genocide on live tv x

Have you noticed a few of your comments have been deleted by Mumsnet?

Just a tip but try to talk to people respectfully or you will get banned x

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 17:50

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 17:49

You don't think it comes across like you are trying to belittle @Gloriia when you are suggesting that she is only allowed to watch one TV station?

Wow - I would hate to see the sort of things you would say to someone you were trying to belittle!

If only you were this emotional about the IDF committing a genocide on live tv x

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 17:49

Gansy · 06/04/2025 17:45

@Gloriia I’m not looking to belittle you, I’m trying to understand why you appear so uninformed and unwilling to provide evidence on the things you say, but yet very intent in justifying and trivialising the actions of the Israeli Govt and the IDF whose actions are disproportionate at best and otherwise immoral, inhumane heinous war crimes against many innocents.

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You don't think it comes across like you are trying to belittle @Gloriia when you are suggesting that she is only allowed to watch one TV station?

Wow - I would hate to see the sort of things you would say to someone you were trying to belittle!

Gansy · 06/04/2025 17:45

@Gloriia I’m not looking to belittle you, I’m trying to understand why you appear so uninformed and unwilling to provide evidence on the things you say, but yet very intent in justifying and trivialising the actions of the Israeli Govt and the IDF whose actions are disproportionate at best and otherwise immoral, inhumane heinous war crimes against many innocents.