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To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:41

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:38

Ten rockets just fired into southern Israel from Gaza!! Tens of thousands of familes in the shelters or safe rooms.
Gaza supposedly has no water,gas .electricity or food but Hamas has money for Rockets,!
When will all you armchair anti semitic warriers realize that you know nothing of the true situation here.
Until the Hamas is driven from Gaza then there is no hope for anyone..

I have friends and family - most of them doctors - who have recently come back from Gaza (with incredible difficulty) after flying there to help give medical aid. Their amateur footage is clear as day along with the millions of footage flying around the internet of Israel committing war crimes.

The situation is dire and even these doctor friends have been denied access back into Gaza when trying to fly back for a second aid mission.

My own colleague at work held a beheaded child in his arms, beheaded from Israeli rockets and gunfire. This isn’t an imaginary tv show that you can ignore.

Netanyahu is a war criminal and Israel is committing a genocide on Palestinians. Simple facts.

shalva · 06/04/2025 19:38

Ten rockets just fired into southern Israel from Gaza!! Tens of thousands of familes in the shelters or safe rooms.
Gaza supposedly has no water,gas .electricity or food but Hamas has money for Rockets,!
When will all you armchair anti semitic warriers realize that you know nothing of the true situation here.
Until the Hamas is driven from Gaza then there is no hope for anyone..

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:37

Anyone who denies that thousands of people have been killed (when the number is high up in the 10s of 1000s) is not even worth engaging with. Those are literal facts that you can review yourself online.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:34

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:28

'Thousands and thousands are being murdered every day' is the same as 'thousands and thousands are being murdered on a daily basis' and neither is true.

I clarified what I meant and yes it is true.

Cris1976 · 06/04/2025 19:31

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 05/04/2025 18:59

You can also hear the shooters talking in Hebrew.
The investigation analysed the geo location and time of the video and it matches when the convoy went.
The vehicles shown in the video match the destroyed ones found. It also all matches satellite photos taken of the area and the vehicles that shows as they destroyed and vehicles and buried them and the bodies after dawn…so some was caught by satellite,
The voices of the paramedics have been idenfied as belonging to the bodies found.
The video was found on the mobile phone with the body of one of the paramedics killed (it was his phone) in the shallow grave that IDF admitted they had dug and bulldozed the bodies into.
IDF has already admitted to killing them. The video shows someone in the ranks lied about the vehicles not having their lights on, and not being clearly marked as rescue humanitarian and UN vehicles. They lied about the personnel not wearing their Red Cross/crescent uniforms, UN uniform and fire fighter uniforms, they lied about killing terrorists as part of the group,

The investigation also found that the area was declared an evacuation zone over an hour after they’d shot and killed everyone.

The investigation included US journalists - NY Times and Sky News- these are not Hamas propagandists or apologists.

The video also corroborates the one survivor of the convoy eye witness testimony.

Edited

Thanks for laying that clearing for those who will obviously always be in denial ‘…. Because Hamas’.

And to think the tragedy of Hind Rajab and the paramedics who came to save her were under not too dissimilar circumstance just over a year back now.

….. the most gut wrenching thing is that these are the few examples we hear of….not the very many that have no media coverage.

This will all be swept under the carpet, just as the remnants of Gaza will be. 😣

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:28

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:25

Also I did not say “thousands are murdered every day” I said thousands of people are being murdered and this is happening on a b daily basis (ie unchecked murders and genocide) so please don’t use my rough grammar on a smartphone to deflect 😴

'Thousands and thousands are being murdered every day' is the same as 'thousands and thousands are being murdered on a daily basis' and neither is true.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:28

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:26

I was asking what you found so funny about this, that is not 'deflection'.

I'm frankly astounded that anyone would post 'lmao' about such a serious subject.

I’m frankly astounded that you care about grammar and text-talk rather than a televised genocide but I guess it is what it is? For once in my life I am off work and the kids are busy so I have time to respond to this silly deflection otherwise it’s pointless engaging with someone who behaves as though they can’t read or process facts

Elunajeya · 06/04/2025 19:27

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:24

Literally UN, UNRWA, Amnesty International, Oxfam, WHO, The ICC, educated professors and researchers, multiple countries and leaders… don’t tell me they’re all Hamas now? 🤷🏻‍♀️

UNWRA definitely is..

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:26

Also it’s soo strange how when Israel says ‘whoops we killed 15 medics accidentally’ and this is outed as a lie that nobody blinks an eye but when we say yes Palestinians are being murdered in record amounts on a daily basis then suddenly it’s Hamas propaganda? Can lead a horse to water but…

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:26

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:22

Deflection. Very tired of your pointless responses, continue deflecting.

Don’t speak up for others - continue as you are - but don’t be surprised when there is nobody left to speak up for you when realities of worldwide oppression one day reach our own warm homes. Good riddance to your deflection.

I was asking what you found so funny about this, that is not 'deflection'.

I'm frankly astounded that anyone would post 'lmao' about such a serious subject.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:25

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:22

'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis, unchecked and unconditionally.'

The IDF are murdering thousands and thousands daily? Says who, hamas?

Also I did not say “thousands are murdered every day” I said thousands of people are being murdered and this is happening on a b daily basis (ie unchecked murders and genocide) so please don’t use my rough grammar on a smartphone to deflect 😴

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:24

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:22

'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis, unchecked and unconditionally.'

The IDF are murdering thousands and thousands daily? Says who, hamas?

Literally UN, UNRWA, Amnesty International, Oxfam, WHO, The ICC, educated professors and researchers, multiple countries and leaders… don’t tell me they’re all Hamas now? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:22

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:20

'Lmao, come off it 😆😆😆'

What on earth are you laughing at? None of this is funny.

Deflection. Very tired of your pointless responses, continue deflecting.

Don’t speak up for others - continue as you are - but don’t be surprised when there is nobody left to speak up for you when realities of worldwide oppression one day reach our own warm homes. Good riddance to your deflection.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:22

'the fact is that Israel and the IDF are murdering thousands and thousands of innocent civilians on a daily basis, unchecked and unconditionally.'

The IDF are murdering thousands and thousands daily? Says who, hamas?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:21

Also my point might have sounded crude written in fast, rough text but my point is below and I’ll detail it for your sake so you can get off the high horse:

someone who justifies the killing of innocent civilians should spend a day in Gaza. They should see the reality of a genocide in front of them, the effects it has on bloodlines, and THEN they can talk :)

Don’t be obtuse for the sake of it.

I am waiting for all the “I’m sad about Oct 7” people to tell me why they aren’t also sad or giving any attention the the events (basically decades of violent oppression and ethnic cleansing) that led to Oct 7?

or do Palestinian lives not matter?

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:20

'Lmao, come off it 😆😆😆'

What on earth are you laughing at? None of this is funny.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:19

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Elunajeya · 06/04/2025 19:18

apologies if I get emotional when talking about the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE 🥴

this is exactly how I feel when I think about October 7th.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 19:16

'apologies if I get emotional when talking about the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE'

Well yes and people get emotional about the murder of innocent people on Oct 7th. It doesn't help anyone for you to suggest pro Israel posters deserves mass killing, does it?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 19:13

Deflection

apologies if I get emotional when talking about the MURDER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE 🥴

again, keep deflecting from all the sensible non-deleted facts I have posted :)

I have actual friends - most of them mothers whose children have died at the hands of Israel - living in what is left of Gaza even now and yes it makes me extremely emotional that they are suffering whilst you deflect and ignore

keep Ignoring all the facts and instead focus on the deleted messages where I said shame on you 🤷🏻‍♀️

also yes people who deny a genocide and do not speak up for victims of indiscriminate violence don’t get sympathy from me but let me be polite here so as to avoid deletions :)

I would have choice words for the Nazis too, doesn’t make me a bad person :)

devourfeculence · 06/04/2025 19:07

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 16:26

No, I didn’t and I’m sure anyone from Mumsnet’s moderation team can confirm that so please ask them to - I’ve got nothing to hide.

however, is that you admitting that Israel IS carrying out “mass killing and genocide”? 🥴 Because I’m glad we can agree on that. Israel is conducting terrorism and genocide.

Yeah you realy did, you said "anyone who justifies Israel's actions deserves to be given the same treatment they are doling - mass killings, genocide, unconditional".

And not sure where I admitted anything.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 19:00

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:56

I didn’t spew any personal attacks, that’s not the only reason comments get deleted.

Stop being silly, it’s so tiring. This must be how you “win” arguments - bickering and ignoring the facts. Please focus on the topic at hand.

What else could it have been? They have fairly strict criteria for what sort of posts get deleted. Advertising isn’t allowed, hate speech isn’t, personal attacks aren’t.

Just stop talking to me if you want to 🤷🏼‍♀️

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:56

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:50

Anyone that spews personal attacks gets their posts deleted, nothing to do with political views just how they are expressed.

I didn’t spew any personal attacks, that’s not the only reason comments get deleted.

Stop being silly, it’s so tiring. This must be how you “win” arguments - bickering and ignoring the facts. Please focus on the topic at hand.

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:50

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:46

Pro-Israeli messages were also deleted, does that get overlooked? Lol

also a deleted comment, does that negate the truth and facts? Keep ignoring them, you’re telling on yourself xx

Anyone that spews personal attacks gets their posts deleted, nothing to do with political views just how they are expressed.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 18:50

Twiglets1 · 06/04/2025 18:41

3 now … a hat trick

3 deleted comments are a hat trick so what would you call the IDF’s 3 thousand instances of “accidental” murders, including those 15 medics in marked ambulances? :)