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To think someone has got to stop the mass killings in Gaza

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BotanicalCake · 03/04/2025 21:34

We are back to hundreds of Gazans being killed each day after the so called ceasefire and over 50,000 now slaughtered, mostly women and children.
The bombing of hospitals, schools and 'safe zones' not being enough, they are now picking off paramedics. How much depravity is the world going to tolerate?

AIBU to suggest that the world leaders complicit in Netanyahu's genocide should all stand before the Hague?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

The Guardian view on Israel’s killing of paramedics: a new atrocity in an unending conflict | Editorial

Editorial: Impunity over Palestinian deaths in Gaza will lead to further cases like this massacre of rescue and healthcare workers

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/the-guardian-view-on-israels-killing-of-paramedics-a-new-atrocity-in-an-unending-conflict

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Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:11

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:10

'Once again, did Hamas just come into the picture out of the blue or are they result of decades of Israel’s violent oppression against Palestine?'

They are terrorists. Apart from 'but oppression' what did their murderous spree achieve?

They don't want a 2 state solution, the want a one state solution 'from the river to the sea'. They'll never get it, they are the cause of all the devastation.

Once again why are you acting like oppression isn’t a massive part of this?

do you even know what oppression means?

israel has been terrorising Palestinians for decades but I guess that’s ok with you and Palestinians should sit quietly and accept their fate?

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:10

'Once again, did Hamas just come into the picture out of the blue or are they result of decades of Israel’s violent oppression against Palestine?'

They are terrorists. Apart from 'but oppression' what did their murderous spree achieve?

They don't want a 2 state solution, the want a one state solution 'from the river to the sea'. They'll never get it, they are the cause of all the devastation.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:09

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:04

Well sorry but hamas is the cause of all this! They shouldn't have got in their hang gliders and decided fo murder hundreds of people <but oppression we know>.

Where has it got them?

Also why are you saying <but oppression we know> as if that isn’t relevant?

are you ok with people being oppressed? Displaced from their own homes? Assaulted and murdered? Treated like a second rate citizen in their own land? Separated from others by walls and borders in their own homes and country?

who is minimising things now? 🤔 certainly not me

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:07

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:04

Well sorry but hamas is the cause of all this! They shouldn't have got in their hang gliders and decided fo murder hundreds of people <but oppression we know>.

Where has it got them?

Again by your own logic I could say: if Israel didn’t want Oct 7 to happen then they shouldn’t have spent decades killing and displacing Palestinians from their own homes?

why does your logic and justification change when Israel and Palestine is swapped?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:06

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:04

Well sorry but hamas is the cause of all this! They shouldn't have got in their hang gliders and decided fo murder hundreds of people <but oppression we know>.

Where has it got them?

Once again, did Hamas just come into the picture out of the blue or are they result of decades of Israel’s violent oppression against Palestine?

why are you ignoring Israel’s fault in all of this?

A bunch of random men with a few guns (supplied to them by who? Are we going to find out in a few years that half of them were US agents like Osama bin Laden?) are suddenly responsible for an entire nation being killed in the name of Hamas?

Should all white people be killed in case they’re related to or might grow up to be a KKK member? What are you even on about

Israel is a terrorist state

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:04

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:01

The ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians is also appalling but for some reason you keep trying to justify that part with “but Hamas” 🤔

Well sorry but hamas is the cause of all this! They shouldn't have got in their hang gliders and decided fo murder hundreds of people <but oppression we know>.

Where has it got them?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:03

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:01

'Again it is a crude example but it’s like saying Katniss in Hunger Games should have stopped the Capitol from murdering people by writing a letter to the Commander 🤡'

You are likening this situation to a telly show and adding a clown emoji, seriously??

See what I mean? When someone says ‘aye did ye’ in response to dead Palestinians it’s ok, but now an example (which I said myself was crude but it’s just an example of how you’re bending logic) and an emoji is stressing you out.

lovely, really

keep ignoring the truth of Israel committing war crimes, like I said one day this will hit home for all of us and the sad consequences will be felt by all of us 😔

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 21:01

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 20:58

'yeah we all know it’s sad that Israelis were killed on Oct 7'

It wasn't 'sad', it was horrific mass murder it was appalling..

Nothing to do with skin colour. Some hostages didn't look any different to palestinians.

The ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians is also appalling but for some reason you keep trying to justify that part with “but Hamas” 🤔

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 21:01

'Again it is a crude example but it’s like saying Katniss in Hunger Games should have stopped the Capitol from murdering people by writing a letter to the Commander 🤡'

You are likening this situation to a telly show and adding a clown emoji, seriously??

Gansy · 06/04/2025 21:00

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:55

The Israelis have not murdered people in cold blood - how can you say that after the countless proof that they have, in fact, done just that? Are you purposely ignoring it or do you not read up on history and current events? Did you even read this thread?

Hind Rajab is literally just 1 person Israel killed in cold blood

those medics are another 15

need I go on?

They have @Gloriia - just no one has cared to acknowledge it when it happened. I include myself being ignorant in that.

Gansy · 06/04/2025 20:58

devourfeculence · 06/04/2025 20:47

Could it be because Hamas are terrorists who want nothing more than to kill Jews?

No, it must be because all the people gunned down at the music festival, all the children kidnapped from their homes were evil oppressors.

Did you not read what I said?

Israeli gov cannot expect Hamas and whatever replaces it to bend to their will and leave them without basic resources to thrive.
The must acknowledge their part in this prior to 7/10. They are not innocent.

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 20:58

'yeah we all know it’s sad that Israelis were killed on Oct 7'

It wasn't 'sad', it was horrific mass murder it was appalling..

Nothing to do with skin colour. Some hostages didn't look any different to palestinians.

devourfeculence · 06/04/2025 20:57

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:52

again: your logic - so all the innocent children, men and women killed after Oct 7th are evil terrorists? Your comments are illogical and don’t even discuss the actual point

yeah we all know it’s sad that Israelis were killed on Oct 7 but why is it not sad that their deaths are used to justify a genocide?

the fact is that ‘white’ lives will always be given more value than ‘brown’ or ‘eastern’ lives

Can you please point out where I said that all the innocent children, men and women killed after Oct 7th are evil terrorists?

And I'm not sure what skin colour has to do with it. Not all of the victims of October 7th were white. Maybe however we're the victims of Hamas's racism.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:57

Whatever you can ACCUSE the Palestinians of doing, Israel has already done it at a much higher and more sinister level. Again, why the difference in judgement?

Again it is a crude example but it’s like saying Katniss in Hunger Games should have stopped the Capitol from murdering people by writing a letter to the Commander 🤡

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:55

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 20:53

The Israelis have not murdered people in cold blood like hamas have done. Kids singing songs that they hate palestinians does not compare.

What did hamas & co think their murderous spree was going to achieve? If they thought they were 'oppressed' before it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to predict it was going to get a million times worse. I'd say it was an own goal but I don't like to be glib about such serious and appalling matters.

The Israelis have not murdered people in cold blood - how can you say that after the countless proof that they have, in fact, done just that? Are you purposely ignoring it or do you not read up on history and current events? Did you even read this thread?

Hind Rajab is literally just 1 person Israel killed in cold blood

those medics are another 15

need I go on?

Gansy · 06/04/2025 20:53

Elunajeya · 06/04/2025 20:32

Did ye, aye

Aye, did: www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-right-wing-settler-attacks-gaza-aid-whos-behind-them-whos-suffering/

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 20:53

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:45

My point is that the stuff you are villainising the Palestinians for, the Israelis have also done. That’s my point. So why do you have a problem with Palestinians doing it if Israelis do it too? And why is the latter justified?

No actual educated or sensible responses except for “but hamas omg Hamas” and silly deflections like a few previous commenters

these are the type of people who would have quietly sat knitting while the Jewish Holocaust occurred outside their windows. They won’t speak up against a current genocide, says it all

The Israelis have not murdered people in cold blood like hamas have done. Kids singing songs that they hate palestinians does not compare.

What did hamas & co think their murderous spree was going to achieve? If they thought they were 'oppressed' before it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to predict it was going to get a million times worse. I'd say it was an own goal but I don't like to be glib about such serious and appalling matters.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:52

devourfeculence · 06/04/2025 20:47

Could it be because Hamas are terrorists who want nothing more than to kill Jews?

No, it must be because all the people gunned down at the music festival, all the children kidnapped from their homes were evil oppressors.

again: your logic - so all the innocent children, men and women killed after Oct 7th are evil terrorists? Your comments are illogical and don’t even discuss the actual point

yeah we all know it’s sad that Israelis were killed on Oct 7 but why is it not sad that their deaths are used to justify a genocide?

the fact is that ‘white’ lives will always be given more value than ‘brown’ or ‘eastern’ lives

devourfeculence · 06/04/2025 20:47

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Could it be because Hamas are terrorists who want nothing more than to kill Jews?

No, it must be because all the people gunned down at the music festival, all the children kidnapped from their homes were evil oppressors.

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:45

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 20:42

You'll find exactiy the same stuff and much worse on the palestinian side as weve all seen, crowds baying and spitting on bodies . I'm not sure what your point is.

Don't think AlJaz are a very neutral source tbh.

My point is that the stuff you are villainising the Palestinians for, the Israelis have also done. That’s my point. So why do you have a problem with Palestinians doing it if Israelis do it too? And why is the latter justified?

No actual educated or sensible responses except for “but hamas omg Hamas” and silly deflections like a few previous commenters

these are the type of people who would have quietly sat knitting while the Jewish Holocaust occurred outside their windows. They won’t speak up against a current genocide, says it all

Gloriia · 06/04/2025 20:42

You'll find exactiy the same stuff and much worse on the palestinian side as weve all seen, crowds baying and spitting on bodies . I'm not sure what your point is.

Don't think AlJaz are a very neutral source tbh.

Gansy · 06/04/2025 20:41

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Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 17:23

There is actual documentation showing that Yahya Sinwar, one of the highest level Hamas fighters, had not eaten for days before his death by an IDF drone.

I have not seen any plumped up fighters except the overweight Israeli soldiers snacking on McDonald’s and coffee as they laugh about their conquests. Random civilians from across the world join the IDF as if it’s a live action game for them to release their frustrations on innocent civilians.

Literal cases of paedophiles and criminals running to Israel to join the IDF.

Oh no, was the poor murdering terrorist scumbag hungry?

Idkw2d · 06/04/2025 20:40

🤦🏻‍♀️

again, it’s ok when Israelis do it but when Palestinians do it you have an issue?

Elunajeya · 06/04/2025 20:40

And I could give you 50 times the number of links of Palestinians celebrating, but to be honest I don’t need to, we’ve all seen it on worldwide news. It doesn’t need to be on Israeli, or far-right leaning publications, it’s on all news outlets.

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